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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:33:00 -
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I haven't heard this asked much but I'm wondering if it'll happen. I'd assume probably no, as the technical side of making that work could be seen as very difficult and taxing on the server. But consider this: you could merely send the location of each nearby capsuleer relative to the sector beacon, updating maybe every 5 seconds or so (don't need an exact representation here), and a basic status, ie. this apocalypse is shooting that cormorant with lasers. And simplified versions of all of these graphics could display in the sky over the sector.
I think being able to see capsuleer ships in the sky would really add to the immersion factor of DUST 514, and alternatively it would really be nice if the larger explosions, building destructions, and maybe even large vehicles could be seen from the capsuleer's viewpoint. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4277
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:59:00 -
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One day maybe?
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Henry Haphorn
Kid's Logistics Inc
398
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:18:00 -
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Not yet. One can only dream, right? Adapt or Die |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
646
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:12:00 -
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Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Danny Hanther
Aliastra Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:44:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet.
technically you can see the ISS if you use fast shutter camera... aimed at the sun and used math to know when it is infront of it. Search for it, its a nice photo.
That said we have no fast shutter cameras in Dust |
phantom blackstar
Reborn deviants The Unthinkables
0
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:44:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
your wrong, you can see both from the ground if there are no clouds very easily. In fact there is a website that you can enter your location and it will tell you what time they will pass over you. spaceweather.com
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
647
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:56:00 -
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If you have an extremely good telephoto lens and a solar filter, you can just about make out the basic shape of the ISS as it passes in front of the sun, sure. That's AFAIK the only occasion and means by which it can be seen from the ground during the day.
At night, with the naked eye it is at best a moving point of light, and I don't think that's what the OP was asking for. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Erik Legant
Eclats de verre
3
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:33:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet.
FYI, a Low Earth Orbit is at an altitude between 160 km and 2 000 km . An avatar, according to a signature radius of 15 760 m at a altitude of 410 km like the ISS would make a spot with a diameter of 7.7 cm at 1 m .
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
647
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:42:00 -
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Thanks for correcting me on that, but looking at it again, district sattelites appear to be in Geosynchronous orbit. So, that's 35,786Km.
if they were in LEO, after all, they'd whip past the battlefield so fast that they'd only have a narrow window to shoot at it.
So, what we get from this is that maybe titans are visible from the ground. I still don't see how anyone could realistically expect to see anything smaller than supercapital at that distance, unaided. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4280
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:17:00 -
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Erik Legant wrote:Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet. FYI, a Low Earth Orbit is at an altitude between 160 km and 2 000 km . An avatar, according to a signature radius of 15 760 m at a altitude of 410 km like the ISS would make a spot with a diameter of 7.7 cm at 1 m . -- Erik
Signature radius =/= physical size.
Signature Radius of an F-18 Super hornet is about... 2ft., F-35 is about a dime.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4280
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:18:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Thanks for correcting me on that, but looking at it again, district satellites appear to be in Geosynchronous orbit. So, that's 35,786Km.
if they were in LEO, after all, they'd whip past the battlefield so fast that they'd only have a narrow window to shoot at it.
So, what we get from this is that maybe titans are visible from the ground. I still don't see how anyone could realistically expect to see anything smaller than supercapital at that distance, unaided.
I may be wrong but geosyncronus distance you mentioned is earth's, planets of various size have different distances.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1966
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Posted - 2013.01.24 19:27:00 -
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Even if it was possible to see unrealistically sized ships in an unrealistic orbit within dust, not taking into account cloud cover and time of day we get this effect: http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr302/AMisthal/6a00c2251d771b604a00d09e664becbe2b-.png It's not really important. |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1607
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Posted - 2013.01.27 00:30:00 -
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The International Space Station, if I'm not mistaken, is a rather bright point of light in the night sky. I don't have any proof that it is what I am looking at, but it is much brighter than any other object, (not including Sun or Moon obviously), and it does not move fast, nor have a stationary orbit. It can be found at different points in the sky depending on the time of night and generally respective of the time of year.
My guess, that is it. It's not clearly definable beyond that, whatever its distance.
Any object at great distance will either reflect light and be visible that way, or may be viewed with a high power telescope. I'm fairly certain we could see the shuttle if we wanted to, when it happens to be up there. Of course, it isn't exactly small either. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
366
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Posted - 2013.01.27 03:29:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet. Actually, you can see the hubble telescope with the naked eye (13m across, 559km altitude) and the ISS is actually rather easy to spot (~90m across, ~415km altitude).
But I presume these ships are flying in a very low orbit, as they want to be as close to the ground as possible and do not need to maintain the orbit for very long. Space shuttles usually flew in an orbit of about 300km altitude, but Earth can be orbited as low as 100km even with our technology. At 100km (as you can see represented pretty accurately in EVE already), battleships can actually be seen in detail if you squint, and capital ships are easy to make out. Supercapitals look quite big even at 100km. And this is all just what you see on a pixelated screen. To a real human actually there, the battleships would be very easy to see, and even frigates could be identified. But since we're stuck behind a lousy screen, why not make then slightly bigger than they would actually appear, just so we can see them better?
This low orbit might also be used to explain how these ships are able to fire at the ground with special ammo. They aren't really shooting all that much further than they can already shoot with the longest range normal ammo, and they're using a special satellite and on-site ground units to help enable this long-range targeting feat.
These ships would definitely be visible to the naked eye. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Ur235
Moon In Scorpio The Kadeshi
86
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Posted - 2013.01.27 11:06:00 -
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http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/
Yes you can see the ISS I have seen it twice already it just looks like a star mind you though to the Naked eye hmm |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
542
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Posted - 2013.01.27 12:40:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet. sure you can see the ISS...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Karbowiak
4M-CORP Raiden.
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 14:38:00 -
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supposedly, even a frigate in EVE, is ten times the size of the ISS.
A battleship is even larger, dreads even larger still, and then you have titans, which are supposedly the size of a small moon.
Pretty sure you'd be able to see anything above a battleship without a telescope, no? |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1966
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:07:00 -
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Karbowiak wrote:supposedly, even a frigate in EVE, is ten times the size of the ISS.
A battleship is even larger, dreads even larger still, and then you have titans, which are supposedly the size of a small moon.
Pretty sure you'd be able to see anything above a battleship without a telescope, no?
A frigate is about the size of a 747. The ISS is the size of a football field. A titan is several km long. They would all just be points of light in the sky. The bigger the brighter of course because of more surface area to reflect light. You likely couldn't tell the difference between an avatar or a leviathan without optical assistance. |
Luc Chastot
Moira. Villore Accords
189
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:53:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Karbowiak wrote:supposedly, even a frigate in EVE, is ten times the size of the ISS.
A battleship is even larger, dreads even larger still, and then you have titans, which are supposedly the size of a small moon.
Pretty sure you'd be able to see anything above a battleship without a telescope, no? A frigate is about the size of a 747. The ISS is the size of a football field. A titan is several km long. They would all just be points of light in the sky. The bigger the brighter of course because of more surface area to reflect light. You likely couldn't tell the difference between an avatar or a leviathan without optical assistance.
You could easily spot anything that's bigger than a BC flying in low orbit. Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
140
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:05:00 -
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Would you like atmospheric flight for EVE ships with that? Inside mining barge, true story |
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
372
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:59:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Karbowiak wrote:supposedly, even a frigate in EVE, is ten times the size of the ISS.
A battleship is even larger, dreads even larger still, and then you have titans, which are supposedly the size of a small moon.
Pretty sure you'd be able to see anything above a battleship without a telescope, no? A frigate is about the size of a 747. The ISS is the size of a football field. A titan is several km long. They would all just be points of light in the sky. The bigger the brighter of course because of more surface area to reflect light. You likely couldn't tell the difference between an avatar or a leviathan without optical assistance. The ISS is a bit smaller than a football field. It's about 73x108 meters. That makes it about the size of an EVE frigate, if not smaller.
A titan is about 13-16km long. It would be visible as more than a point of light if it were as distant as the Moon, and at low orbit it would look pretty big. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Carniflex
StarHunt
29
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Posted - 2013.01.30 09:47:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet.
ISS is not several kilometers in size like your typical EVE battleship. If EVe battleship would be on low Earth orbit you could pretty well see it with naked eye.
Also, Low Earth Orbit is not at 2000 km or above, as low as 300 km is ok, its just that you have to compensate for relatively minor drag at that altitude which presumably any ship in EVE would be capable of.
For the OP though - probably no, PS3 does not have enough RAM for that I would assume. |
Ambrocio Hanaya
Belmont Consortium
1
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Posted - 2013.01.30 19:55:00 -
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At night you can see the ISS very well. It is just a moving dot in the sky though. And of course it has to be crossing your area to be able to see it at night. I actually saw it recently, back in early December as if flew over our area. Was quite bright and went across the entire sky before moving out of range to see. Looked like a very slow moving comet.
As for size, I think the carriers and whatnot are MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger then the ISS though. So perhaps with something of that size you could see some definition from the ground.
Would be cool though. I'd love to see the ability in the future for Frigate pilots to possibly enter the battlefield. Pilots could warp to the planet and " enter " the planet kind of like going into a wormhole or jumping through a gate. Would be awesome. Then they can fly around ala Battlefield 1942 or any other title out there and have an air battle that can effect what is happening on the ground as well. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
143
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:39:00 -
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Quote:ISS is not several kilometers in size like your typical EVE battleship
My Marauder, Tech2 battleship is only 806m long, typical for a battleship in EVE is somewhere from 800m to 1,5km.
The longest ship is the Leviathan and Ragnarok (18 km long) but these are titans, not typical battleships. Inside mining barge, true story |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
376
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Posted - 2013.02.03 14:29:00 -
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Carniflex wrote:For the OP though - probably no, PS3 does not have enough RAM for that I would assume. *cough*bullshit*cough* hrm...something in my throat for a moment there
Bagrat Skalski wrote:The longest ship is the Leviathan and Ragnarok (18 km long) but these are titans, not typical battleships. I think titans would look like a 18 mm bug from 30 cm (300 km orbit). They would be noticable as a light patch on the sky in daylight (dusk precisely) if sunlight could bounce of them. For everything less than 1 km, you would say it's a bright star. So you're saying the titan would look like a honey bee halfway up your upper arm?
You can actually calculate this pretty easily using the tangent of a right triangle. With the object being viewed at a distance of 300km ( the adjacent side) and the titan size of 15km (the opposite side), you place the opposite over the adjacent to get the tangent of the angle that the object takes up in your field of view. 15/300 = 0.05 so the tangent of the angle is 0.5. tan (x) = 0.05, thus x = tan^-1 (0.05) = 2.86-¦
So a titan would only take up about 2.8 degrees, or 10,000 arcseconds in your field of view at 300km distance. Contrast this with the Moon at a glorious 0.5 degrees, or 1800 arcseconds.
Here's some other brief calculations I ran up for ships at 300km altitude: Maelstrom (1,484m): 0.28-¦ / 1008 Caracal (403m): 0.077-¦ / 277 Executioner (54m): 0.010-¦ / 36
In case you're still having trouble visualizing this, I drafted up a sketch: http://imgur.com/a/V9NA2 The image shows an Avatar titan, Maelstrom battleship, Caracal cruiser, and Executioner frigate at 300km compared with the apparent size of the moon in the sky. The little arrow points to the dot that is the Executioner in the image. The detail in the image is probably only slightly better than a person with 20/20 vision would see on a clear night. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
152
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Posted - 2013.02.03 15:43:00 -
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Quote:So you're saying the titan would look like a honey bee halfway up your upper arm?
It would take as much field of view for you as a 18mm bug looked upon from 30 cm. It takes same portion of your field of view, you just made calculations in degrees. The degree in triangle is the same in fact. The titan would be black all night, because light can't shine through earth to bounce of it. When it would be seen is at dusk, when light could bounce of it, then it would "vanish" in the shade of earth. New CQ prototype |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
376
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Posted - 2013.02.03 16:00:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:When it would be seen is at dusk, when light could bounce of it, then it would "vanish" in the shade of earth. On the contrary, you could see it all day, just like the moon. Actually, better than the moon. During the day, you could see its shaded side merely from Earthshine, provided there aren't any clouds in the way. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Beaver Retriever
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.02.03 16:51:00 -
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If you've listened to the newest CAST 514, CCP devs state that visibility of Eve ships in DUST is coming Soon(tm).
It will start with simple brackets in the skybox, but will probably eventually progress to having them visible. If the ships are large enough and in low enough orbit, I assume. With the height of the satellites we are at, I would say we're nowhere near close enough. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4296
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:28:00 -
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Beaver Retriever wrote:If you've listened to the newest CAST 514, CCP devs state that visibility of Eve ships in DUST is coming Soon(tm).
It will start with simple brackets in the skybox, but will probably eventually progress to having them visible. If the ships are large enough and in low enough orbit, I assume. With the height of the satellites we are at, I would say we're nowhere near close enough.
Yup its going to be immersion concreting.
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Pyre leFay
The Scope Gallente Federation
447
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Posted - 2013.02.04 07:06:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Carniflex wrote:For the OP though - probably no, PS3 does not have enough RAM for that I would assume. *cough*bullshit*cough* hrm...something in my throat for a moment there Bagrat Skalski wrote:The longest ship is the Leviathan and Ragnarok (18 km long) but these are titans, not typical battleships. I think titans would look like a 18 mm bug from 30 cm (300 km orbit). They would be noticable as a light patch on the sky in daylight (dusk precisely) if sunlight could bounce of them. For everything less than 1 km, you would say it's a bright star. So you're saying the titan would look like a honey bee halfway up your upper arm? You can actually calculate this pretty easily using the tangent of a right triangle. With the object being viewed at a distance of 300km ( the adjacent side) and the titan size of 15km (the opposite side), you place the opposite over the adjacent to get the tangent of the angle that the object takes up in your field of view. 15/300 = 0.05 so the tangent of the angle is 0.5. tan (x) = 0.05, thus x = tan^-1 (0.05) = 2.86-¦ So a titan would only take up about 2.8 degrees, or 10,000 arcseconds in your field of view at 300km distance. Contrast this with the Moon at a glorious 0.5 degrees, or 1800 arcseconds. Here's some other brief calculations I ran up for ships at 300km altitude: Maelstrom (1,484m): 0.28-¦ / 1008 Caracal (403m): 0.077-¦ / 277 Executioner (54m): 0.010-¦ / 36 In case you're still having trouble visualizing this, I drafted up a sketch: http://imgur.com/a/V9NA2The image shows an Avatar titan, Maelstrom battleship, Caracal cruiser, and Executioner frigate at 300km compared with the apparent size of the moon in the sky. The little arrow points to the dot that is the Executioner in the image. The detail in the image is probably only slightly better than a person with 20/20 vision would see on a clear night. The human eye at 20/20 only has a resolution of about 1 arc minute. after that it becomes more about high-contrast, light or no light. at ISS distance of 340km your Executioner, at 54m is .6 arcminutes. Its hardly a spec if it has no reflection. Jump to Maelstrom, 16.8 arcminutes. now it looks a little like a 747 at 30k feet. That Levitation? 206.4 arcminutes to the moons 30. So its a 747 at about 4k feet. So you can easily tell what it is, what direction, yet as for the smaller specifics like weapons on a turret titan, even a XL turret in eve isnt that huge in space terms. Lets say due to tech and materials, a multi 2500mm cannon is only double the size of the railway ww2 Schwerer Gustav (800mm), about 300ft. Its Just identifiable, you'll know its a turret. In a game, at that distance in detail. not a chance. But BS and titans hull should be quite viewable in dust going realistic sizes. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1594
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Posted - 2013.02.04 11:27:00 -
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Hey guys,
Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but I thought you might find this interesting if you had not seen/heard it already:
YouTube Podcast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywnlrtj0V8A
If you don't want to listen to the whole podcast here is a write up that someone did about it: TheMittani.com write up: http://themittani.com/news/ccp-reveals-upcoming-dust-plans
If you don't want to read the whole write up let me quote the relevant part from the above article: "Skyboxes are being made DUST-side to allow mercs the ability to see capsuleers in orbit. This feature is coming very soon and is currently in a testing stage"
So yea... Enjoy! >:) Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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Eliniale
co-operative resource extraction
52
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Posted - 2013.02.04 11:44:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hey guys, Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but I thought you might find this interesting if you had not seen/heard it already: YouTube Podcast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywnlrtj0V8AIf you don't want to listen to the whole podcast here is a write up that someone did about it: TheMittani.com write up: http://themittani.com/news/ccp-reveals-upcoming-dust-plansIf you don't want to read the whole write up let me quote the relevant part from the above article: "Skyboxes are being made DUST-side to allow mercs the ability to see capsuleers in orbit. This feature is coming very soon and is currently in a testing stage" So yea... Enjoy! >:)
Cool!
An easy work around would be to show flashes of light and explosions in the sky if there are figths going on in orbit. Which would be vague enough to prevent you from having to use loads of memeory to make it all clearly visible, yet it would give you a very vibrant effect. System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
194
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Posted - 2013.02.04 13:30:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hey guys, Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but I thought you might find this interesting if you had not seen/heard it already: YouTube Podcast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywnlrtj0V8AIf you don't want to listen to the whole podcast here is a write up that someone did about it: TheMittani.com write up: http://themittani.com/news/ccp-reveals-upcoming-dust-plansIf you don't want to read the whole write up let me quote the relevant part from the above article: "Skyboxes are being made DUST-side to allow mercs the ability to see capsuleers in orbit. This feature is coming very soon and is currently in a testing stage" So yea... Enjoy! >:)
its good to hear that the dust bunnies will get the chance to see there iminent doom aproching before we melt them with lazors |
Gen Fesslenski
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.03.02 22:46:00 -
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Awesome, cos honestly, I was getting sick of people trying to let real life science get in the way of awesome space battles in the sky of a computer game. |
Robert J Niewiadomski
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.09 18:32:00 -
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It would be easier then for mercs to aim their guns at OBS pilots ;) A merc wearing heavy drupsuit is capable of delivering serious damage. There are also NULL canons on battlefield returning fire at capsuleers. So OBS carry somy risk with it... F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real More gems here: http://www.mannymolecular.com/mind-emotion/42-exploring-fear |
Max Brutix
Amarrian Special Forces Angel Causalities Demolition Crew
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Posted - 2013.03.09 22:01:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet.
Rubbish, the orbital strike will be 200-300 miles up at best. Just like it is for space based weapons. So at that distance you sure can see half a mile ship. |
Max Brutix
Amarrian Special Forces Angel Causalities Demolition Crew
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Posted - 2013.03.09 22:03:00 -
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Max Brutix wrote:Stitcher wrote:Those ships are in ORBIT. Can you see the International Space Station from the ground? or the Hubble Space Telescope?
No, because they are in orbit, and being in orbit means that they are a very, very long way away.
And before you point out that EVE ships are bigger than either of those things, I should point out that the astronauts on the ISS can't even make out the largest cities on the planet without powerful zoom lenses, some squinting, and a map for reference purposes.
Low Earth orbit is about 2,000Km, and it seems reasonable to guess that anything performing an orbital bombardment is at that sort of altitude. I defy anybody to be able to see something that's as small as most EVE ships at that distance, and even titans would at best be a bright point of light that you could mistake for a star or planet. Rubbish, the orbital strike will be 200-300 miles up at best. Just like it is for space based weapons. So at that distance you sure can see half a mile ship.
And here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station ISS orbit altitude: 200 km
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2013.03.09 22:21:00 -
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We can see the ISS, satellites, and other orbital objects from the ground.
So, if someone parked a ship that's hundreds or thousands of meters long over the battlefield, I imagine they would be visible from the ground. |
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