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Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.07.07 13:10:00 - [31] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain There wont be any HAc Styl bs if thats what you mean. Apparently theyre going to be flag ships, whatever that means Darth Vadar didn't roam around on any normal Star Destyoer and call it a flagship :/
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.07.07 13:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Oveur Whiner. Yeah, but what ever happened to the Big risk in much isk. Right now its like Big isk, very little risk. Which is don't move it in a hauler through .4 and down and don't give anyone access to it. After that, it is just raking in cash.
slip66	Posted - 2005.07.07 13:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Ja'kar It's called gamebalance and ship roles. There isn't going to be any ships that fit all roles no more. And tech1 BS are quite sufficient when it comes to killing eachother, dreadnaughts, cruisers, HAC's and wahtever else they manage to hit. We don't need tech2 BS with more damage or power. I'd go as far as to say that they would break the game. _______________________________________________ I would disagree- donÆt have to be overpowered- but not everyone wants to use ice and members to allow us to jump etc. Also 'battleship' to me means that with the right fitting I should be able to fight all (dreads 1-1 hehe). Lastly it does not make sense for lower end ships to get t2 version and not bs. It's like the lower end ship are there to help new members (no bad thing) but older players need new toys and not just team play ships. I am a battleship pilot primary and I am getting fed up of waiting or as it seems to me, am not gonna get a t2 version of a bs and if it is, it's sounding like a weak and possible a team ship. Im sorry but your outlook is unrealistic. t2 BS 1v1 with a dread... um no this would totally make them pointless. I dont want a bunch of HAC-BS running around...
Zyanid	Posted - 2005.07.07 14:14:00 - [34] What is a HAC BS? Heavy Assault Cruiser Battleship? wouldent HAB's be more correct? =)
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.07.07 14:38:00 - [35] Originally by: Zyanid What is a HAC BS? Heavy Assault Cruiser Battleship? wouldent HAB's be more correct? =) ...the correct terminology for the HAC is infact HAS (heavy assault ship), so for the BS version, the name would be most likely SHAS (super-heavy assault ship) ...I have too much free time ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Altar Mei	Posted - 2005.07.07 14:44:00 - [36] I thought the logistic cruisers where going to act as command ships, giving bounuses and such to gangs. The real question is what exactly will the skill reqs be?
Uther Doull	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:06:00 - [37] Originally by: Dionysus Davinci Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 07/07/2005 13:17:38 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain There wont be any HAc Styl bs if thats what you mean. Apparently theyre going to be flag ships, whatever that means Darth Vadar didn't roam around on any normal Star Destyoer and call it a flagship :/ On that note, titans are flagships. actually i'd say titan's are death stars and dreads are star destroyers and technically a flagship is just the ship from wich the fleet is commanded, but i agree that it's usually the biggest/most powerfull ship in the fleet
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Altar Mei I thought the logistic cruisers where going to act as command ships, giving bounuses and such to gangs. The real question is what exactly will the skill reqs be? Actually, it is BC. But CCP nerfed them, and now only the ferox can actually use the command modules and still survive a fight.
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:27:00 - [39] Man, Oveur's on a roll today. :) ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:46:00 - [40] I am not looking forward ot t2 battleships.. i just hope they have insane skill training reqs I sorta don't like t2 ships.. I would rather they just be whole new ship classes. Assault Cruisers? how can something have as much armor as a BS when it's like 1/5th the size.. it just doesnt make sense to me, whatever. oh well, T2 BSs, incredibly easy Lv4 missions (or they'll make them harder, impossible for people with T1 BSs) ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
JoCool	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:51:00 - [41] Edited by: JoCool on 07/07/2005 15:53:08 Originally by: Hllaxiu Capital ships have never been uber in real life, and have never been that uber in any game I've played, and every show I've watched. The Bismarck went down to torpedo planes and close range torpedo destroyers... Originally by: Tar Om The bismark did NOT go down to torpedo planes. The planes got a lucky hit on the rudder which meant she could only steam in circles until the battleships caught up. THEY did the damage that killed her as an effective ship and the destroyer's torpedos finally sank her when she was burning from end to end and unable to fire back at all. Naw mate, the Bismarck was destroyed by its own crew after nearly running out of shells and because it could not maneuver. It was a masterpiece of german engineering, but it was put to use wrongly, without light escort. It was an unsinkable T2 Dreadnought.
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:52:00 - [42] t2 BS and lvl 5 agents <_<
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.07.07 15:55:00 - [43] Originally by: ErrorS I am not looking forward ot t2 battleships.. i just hope they have insane skill training reqs Well you know they won't be worse than dreadnaughts. So expect something in the middle or at least in the upper 50% of that. Originally by: ErrorS I sorta don't like t2 ships.. I would rather they just be whole new ship classes. Assault Cruisers? how can something have as much armor as a BS when it's like 1/5th the size.. it just doesnt make sense to me, whatever. There are tech2 ships that are nifty, like Interceptors. Others sounded cool on paper but seem strange in implementation, such as Logistics. Personally, I'd rather we see more ships in the existing categories than all new categories with one ship per race in them. Logically, it seems silly that say covert ops frigate aren't just in the frigates category instead of having their own. Ditto for cruisers, etc. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.07.07 16:03:00 - [44] I'd just like to add some wild speculation. Thanks Eve Blacklight Style
Ticondrius	Posted - 2005.07.07 16:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Oveur Next patch. DUDE, that bit of info just saved my Starbases...if T2 BShips were still coming SoonÖ and not Next PatchÖ, I'd be taking them down now. "If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault." (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Mitawyn	Posted - 2005.07.07 17:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Oveur Next patch. I think I love you!
SengH	Posted - 2005.07.07 17:21:00 - [47] Okay what I hope CCP does with t2 ships. They forgo the Heavy Assault Battleship and do flagships instead give them half the CPU/PG of current battleships. Give them a 90% reduction to Gang Assist Modules and allow them to use the new computer interface nodes and also allow them to equip +1 Gang Assist modules w/o needing command processors. These ships wont be firing any guns as all their hi slots will be taken by all the gang assist modules/interface modes. Rather than having uber ships running around wtfpwning everything, we'd have something that could actually omg.. survive in a fleet fight when its called primary?
Mistress D'Malice	Posted - 2005.07.07 17:45:00 - [48] I would prefer to see MUCH more specialized ships next run around. Covert Ops ships are still rather useless...stealth bombers are sucky now with the cloaking nerfs...where are the black op frigs? Support cruiser still need help as well. Fix these before moving on to tech2 BS's please... Specialization is where Tech2 should be going...not another "WTFPWN" everything ship ike BS's are now. ------------------------------------------------ Black Lotus Official Forums - www.blacklotusclan.com Contact Me - [email protected]
pardux	Posted - 2005.07.07 18:27:00 - [49] <3 oveur =)
aeti	Posted - 2005.07.07 18:44:00 - [50] gimme my tech 2 scorp of uberjamming doom :\|
Meridius	Posted - 2005.07.07 18:57:00 - [51] Please don't make them useless. Please make them viable and worth the training. ________________________________________________________
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.07.07 19:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Mistress D'Malice I would prefer to see MUCH more specialized ships next run around. Covert Ops ships are still rather useless...stealth bombers are sucky now with the cloaking nerfs...where are the black op frigs? Support cruiser still need help as well. Fix these before moving on to tech2 BS's please... Specialization is where Tech2 should be going...not another "WTFPWN" everything ship ike BS's are now. Covert ops ships rock.
Nostradamu5	Posted - 2005.07.07 19:06:00 - [53] Simply terrible that Oveur has mislead you all, the T2 BS's are out and you'll see them as soon as the run out of cap and their claoks fail. Faulty testing kept me from delivering the "Logic Editor" earlier. I was using my own post and it kept blanking everything out.
DMAN666vic	Posted - 2005.07.07 19:09:00 - [54] I would like to see a T2 shuttle with some better resistances and maybe a med slot!
Ticondrius	Posted - 2005.07.07 19:18:00 - [55] Originally by: DMAN666vic I would like to see a T2 shuttle with some better resistances and maybe a med slot! With a slightly larger cargo hold..yes. 80m3, or 100m3 would kick butt. "If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault." (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2005.07.07 19:20:00 - [56] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 07/07/2005 19:20:37 Originally by: DMAN666vic I would like to see a T2 shuttle with some better resistances and maybe a med slot! Its called an Ares. Oh, and to all the Bismarck nitpickers: 1. I know what happened in the battle 2. Perhaps it would have been better to say "small torpedo planes started the sequence of events leading to the battleship's destruction" instead of whatever I said which was more like "it went down due to torpedo planes and destroyers" which still gets the point accross and is more or less true as well. I guess I did sort of imply that the planes caused it to sink or something, thats not what I meant to write (read what I mean, not what I write!). I still want my defiant frigate class ship. Say, a ship with an Enyo's slot layout and armor, speed like a ceptor, an extra high slot for command slots, and a cloaking device without any penalties. Oh, and when it gets blown up you get a new one delivered to your station with exactly the same name and registration number, although your next couple of fleet battles will look strangely like your previous one complete with the exact same ships blowing up.
X'Alor	Posted - 2005.07.07 19:45:00 - [57] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Frank Horrigan Yeah i would like some info on that too, I hope the geddon is the knhand one meant for pvp.. since it would be black and blue.. oh man sexyness... NO Enough of those stupid Caldari-Amarr Khanid hybrids, the bloody Tech II 'geddon better damn well be a Viziam killing machine like the Zealot. MMMMMMMM Me prays one day I'll get to see a Khanid Navy Apoc in my hands. Plus as stated it's black chrome. Ponders Khanid Navy Apoc. 6 turret/4 launcher points Little less armor Little more shield About same regenerations on cap and shield One less low slot Two more mid slots Bonus to Large Energy Rof Bonus to Cruise missle damage Did i mention black chrome? but not if it means scrapping all those lovely implant offers.
Randay	Posted - 2005.08.07 07:44:00 - [58] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Gungankllr Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Chade Malloy Edited by: Chade Malloy on 07/07/2005 12:16:07 Hm, the next mini patch or the next large one, like kali? Anyway, whoever gets the first TII BS BPO will be insta rich. I guess it could be sold for 100 bil+ to an alliance or something... Talk about flawed research system Whiner. All whining aside, are the new Tech II Battleships going to be like Heavy Assault Battleships, Logistics battleships, Command ships, or will they just be a round ball with two sides, one side saying "WHINERMOBILE" and the other side saying "PWNEDMOBILE"? I would think that they are more of an oval ball than a round ball. OMG TECH 2 PODS WOOOT
GlimmerMan	Posted - 2005.08.07 11:09:00 - [59] Would you PLEASE remember that there are solo players out there and not make these group-only ships like you did with Dreadnaughts. I've been flying an Apocalypse for over 2 years and I'd FINALLY like the chance to fly a more badass ship, don't cop out and make these mass-command module ships for groups only or you'll lose so many solo players, including me! You'd deserve to lose our money too, we're not seeing ANY new content comming our way these days, what incentive to we have to stay? I'm not asking for these to be ships fitted with an 'I win!' button, but please make them pure combat vessels that are at least a little more powerful than current Faction/Navy Battleships. Give me something worth emptying my 10-figure wallet on buying! Blowing s**t up since May 2003
Hakim St0rm4r3	Posted - 2005.08.07 11:11:00 - [60] Originally by: GlimmerMan Would you PLEASE remember that there are solo players out there and not make these group-only ships like you did with Dreadnaughts. I've been flying an Apocalypse for over 2 years and I'd FINALLY like the chance to fly a more badass ship, don't cop out and make these mass-command module ships for groups only or you'll lose so many solo players, including me! You'd deserve to lose our money too, we're not seeing ANY new content comming our way these days, what incentive to we have to stay? I'm not asking for these to be ships fitted with an 'I win!' button, but please make them pure combat vessels that are at least a little more powerful than current Faction/Navy Battleships. Give me something worth emptying my 10-figure wallet on buying! i found you something: Faction/Navy Battleships

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