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Goran Konjich
Shiva Furnace
52
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:28:00 -
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Ok, this one applies as a leading bad (not to use any harsher word) idea for January. And maybe it will go in yearly draw for BIG yearly award for most idiotic idea how to improve EvE online. Sh1va Furnace is recruiting. Small gang PVP in wormholes and lowsec. |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
365
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:41:00 -
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I like to play with other people and good FC's.
That's how I know what's on the other side of a gate.
If I'm traveling solo then I don't take stupid routes |

FourierTransformer
12
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:53:00 -
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So....a feature is available via isk/plex/aur (scout alts) and you want to add another feature that will be available for isk/plex/aur (camera drones) that will do the exact same thing. K....... |

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
183
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:57:00 -
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why would this drone need to be paid for in AUR??? why not just put it in the game... honestly id almsot compleatly forgot AUr existed lol :-P |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
125
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:06:00 -
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Some sort of single shot probe, fired from a scan probe launcher, that goes through the gate, and gives a reading on shiptypes within a certain range of the gate, could be pretty cool. Perhaps probe strength would dictate the accuracy of the ships on the other side, varying from Tengu, to Caldari Strategic cruiser, to Cruiser, to Medium ship or even just 'Ship' would be pretty cool.
Paying for something like this with Aurum is bad. Just charge for it with isk. it WOULD be pay to win with aurum.
Also, this thread belongs in the suggestions section of the forums, not GD |

Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
360
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:17:00 -
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Bad idea, you just need to learn to play more carefully and use the damn map. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |

Ka'Narlist
Cronos Titan Test Friends Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:26:00 -
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BobZumda wrote:Or you could do something cheap like organize an intel channel for defense or get together with other PvPers and get a joint offensive intel channel. I imagine those exist if you look for the, But but...Eve is a single player game, isn't it? |

HellBent KillingSpree
Republic University Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:32:00 -
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I have a better idea, how about you pay REAL LIFE CASH to actually make yourself invincible and everyone else who comes within 5 systems of you get so nerfed they stop due to engine falure, lose all cap, ALL of their modules go off-line and they cant log out. This would be fun wouldn't it? "Dont let your kids play on the weekends unless you like exposing your children to several thousand drunk and drug addicts" An unbiased Amazon players review |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
153
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:50:00 -
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lol [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
444
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:06:00 -
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Akita T wrote:silens vesica wrote:No micro-transactions for game equipment. Period. ISK -> PLEX -> AUR -> whatever you want. You don't ever need to pay any RL cash yourself. Somebody else will for you. You also don't even need to ever have any AUR at any time either, somebody else will walk that exchange line and put up the item itself on sale on the market eventually anyway. The only issue is whether the equipment offered itself obsoletes already existing (player-manufactured or player-obtained) equipment or not (if it does, it's bad for the manufacturers of the obsoleted equipment ; if it doesn't, who cares). Certainly true. For now. I don't like the precident. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
54
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:07:00 -
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To be honest - i pay for playing in this game. If CCP wants to add mini transactions to the game - let it be "ship painting" not something that will directly affect the game. |

Ildryn
The Inf1dels
73
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:56:00 -
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If it is under 5500 Aurum i dont think it is pay to win. I never bought Aurum and have 5500 so its free :) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7375
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:00:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side? Doing this exists in the form of paying RL currency for a second account, why not scale price/functionality down and give us these camera spy drones thingies that look like this.
0/10 no Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

dexington
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
545
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:03:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side?
Why not just jump the gate in a noob ship, they are free... GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
418
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:04:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:I don't like the precident.
Dont do it silens!!!!
Everyone loves Barack! :'( |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
42
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:09:00 -
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We already have pay to win.
It's called Plex. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby" |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1198
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:12:00 -
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Orzo Torasson wrote:Alternatively, you could not fly your big and slow aligning ship unscouted through lowsec. It's free, too.
I already have 2 of the types of drones the OP mentions. One is my alt scout, the other are these things I call "flesh and blood people I made Friends with".
"Gate Scouting Drones" would simply be more -single player stuff in a multiplayer game- and wouldn't even be a good idea for CCP as it would mean fewer subscriptions (who needs an alt scout when you can simply use your drone bay?).
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1198
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:15:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Scouts are for noobs. I freakin' MAN-jump into every gate I come across. Jumped into 8 man gate camp in low sec today in my slow tanked ship and survived np. OP needs a heavy dose of L2P.
Vaal Erit for CSM..naw, screw that, Vaal Erit for CCP Developer!
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eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
148
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:26:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side? Doing this exists in the form of paying RL currency for a second account, why not scale price/functionality down and give us these camera spy drones thingies that look like this.
Since the moment CCP allowed the Legal sale of PLEX on the market and before that, thru ETC trading is has been play to win.
All the time, chaps like me (my whole eve life is funded by RL cash converted to ISK via the sale of PLEX) then eve will be pay to win.
It's shockly naive to think anything else really.
Yes there are other ways of making isk, but it's still a pay to win model.
Like it or not. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
446
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:29:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:silens vesica wrote:I don't like the precident. Dont do it silens!!!! Everyone loves Barack! :'( I see what you did there.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3394
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:31:00 -
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Paying for even a single EvE subscription is pay to win..... apparently.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
153
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:02:00 -
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Due to the positive feedback from this thread, I'll be running for CSM in the upcoming elections. [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
499
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:55:00 -
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I want a nice looking unicorn with lasers and enough CPU for 2 XL-ASB's !
Other than that, I do not agree with OP proposal.
Think about it, flying unicorns !
Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++ |

Dr No Game
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
49
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:57:00 -
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dexington wrote:Stegas Tyrano wrote:Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side? Why not just jump the gate in a noob ship, they are free... I had this revelation yesterday, while flying my <900k SP, no-implant alt around HiSec in a noobship. WTF am I flying for... this clone is worthless, I can just podjump everywhere I need to be! It's nice not having to worry about replacing implants or upgrading that disposable clone! |

Merouk Baas
463
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:28:00 -
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How about PLEX for a drone that jumps through the gate and broadcasts to Local "Incoming Merouk Baas, flying (ship) with (actual value) billion ISK cargo value, make way, clear the area, stand aside!" then blinks red 3 times and self destructs like a firework?
To make it easier for me to travel.
Cause I don't want to travel unannounced.
And cause I like red. |

Niveuss Nye
The Advent of Faith
11
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:36:00 -
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Say what you wish, but so far Eve seems to have a decent balance that is not pay to win.
This community also seems to hold the game company more accountable to possible crud than other game communities. And, unlike other companies at least appear at least act on any major community anger.
As far as alts/ multiboxing - that is on EVERY MMO. If someone wants that playstyle of an RTS and wants to run 5 or more accounts while paying a huge subscription (or PLEXING with a semi-afk miner guy) so be it. Not my cup of tea, but I could see the draw of controling my own private fleet and having multiple playstyles to draw from. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13784
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:22:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:Stegas Tyrano wrote:Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side? Doing this exists in the form of paying RL currency for a second account, why not scale price/functionality down and give us these camera spy drones thingies that look like this. Since the moment CCP allowed the Legal sale of PLEX on the market and before that, thru ETC trading is has been play to win. All the time, chaps like me (my whole eve life is funded by RL cash converted to ISK via the sale of PLEX) then eve will be pay to win. It's shockly naive to think anything else really. Yes there are other ways of making isk, but it's still a pay to win model. Like it or not. No it's not. You're shockingly wrong to think it is.
When people pay real life cash for a Plex, they pay for game time. This game time doesn't magically disappear when swapped for ISK. It still remains game time until used or destroyed.
At no point does a Plex do any of the following. Turn into ISK, ships, modules, prostitutes, Quafe. Yes it can be swapped for those items, but it remains and always will remain as game time. You know, the thing people paid for.
This also means Eve is not Free2Play, as even if someone swaps their ISK for a Plex, that Plex and it's promise of game time has been paid for. You know, the thing people paid for.
The worst it could be accused of, is Pay2GetStuffWithoutGrindingOrWaitingForISK. Which is not the same thing.
Now IF the Plex spawned items, then you may have a point. But as it doesn't and it's role is and always will be game time, you're talking out your arse.
This post was brought to you by the letter G.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.01.25 00:13:00 -
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Mag's wrote:snipped other stuff....
All the time, chaps like me (my whole eve life is funded by RL cash converted to ISK via the sale of PLEX) then eve will be pay to win.
It's shockly naive to think anything else really.
Yes there are other ways of making isk, but it's still a pay to win model.
Like it or not. No it's not. You're shockingly wrong to think it is.
When people pay real life cash for a Plex, they pay for game time. This game time doesn't magically disappear when swapped for ISK. It still remains game time until used or destroyed.
At no point does a Plex do any of the following. Turn into ISK, ships, modules, prostitutes, Quafe. Yes it can be swapped for those items, but it remains and always will remain as game time. You know, the thing people paid for.
This also means Eve is not Free2Play, as even if someone swaps their ISK for a Plex, that Plex and it's promise of game time has been paid for. You know, the thing people paid for.
The worst it could be accused of, is Pay2GetStuffWithoutGrindingOrWaitingForISK. Which is not the same thing.
Now IF the Plex spawned items, then you may have a point. But as it doesn't and it's role is and always will be game time, you're talking out your arse.
This post was brought to you by the letter G.[/quote]
^^This ^^
+1
o/ Celly
Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1667
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Posted - 2013.01.25 00:38:00 -
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Get free trial account --> make noob char --> fly new alt through gate ahead of main.
Why pay aur for drone when free trial alt is FREE? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
201
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Posted - 2013.01.25 00:45:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side?
I foresee a new Planetary Interaction product where one buys MONOCLES and combines them with existing PI Camera Drones to create the "ACME Uber-spy Drone"...
Should only cost about 4 PLEX per drone that way....    |
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