True, but the headache for CCP will be when mom calls her credit card company and says "That's an invalid charge because my son didn't get the thing I bought." TBH, I was surprised when CCP started allowing you to undock with PLEX - it's got to be mkore of a hassle for them than they first anticipated.

Make all the conditions you like but scamming noobs, ganking noobs, sucking noobs into BS gank the noob corps etc, are all total Bullcrap and anyone caught doing such should be permabanned.

The game will be much better off without them. AND the whole scamming plex thing has gotten out of control IMO. Sure, those of us who have been around don't pay attention to them so why are they there? The only person who will fall for one is a noob, otherwise they just contribute to the local spam overload in trade hubs.

See what I mean, this person learned RL lessons from Eve. Are these the kind of people you want to live with in the RW. Nothing would get done as contracts were studied and looked over by lawyers, and as people worked as hard as possible not to create but to steal.

There is no scientific proof on whether it does or not.

Statistically, chances are people have quit because they have been scammed, though.

Or am I missing something important about the difference between an ETC and a plex?

Also the difference between plex and other scams is that PLEX uses real monies, where as the other items are pixels.

I do think PLEX should remain ingame as a method of changing RL money for ISK, but I feel that the predation on the young is detrimental to EVE as a game an institution and CCP as a company.

Much as greifing in newbie systems is prohibited I feel that such rules should expand to scamming of PLEX.

He didn't say "scientific proof" indicates one thing or the other. He said that "statistically" people don't continue to do business with the same entity that scammed them. IDK if thats true or not. I bet it is.

"scamming clearly hasn't hindered the growth of this game considering that, well, it's grown" Growth of the game in no way proves that certain aspects of the game haven't held it back.

Your post is horrible. Misquotes and bad logic. I'm surprised.

That rule hasn't destroyed content, or made Eve dull and easy. There is no reason not to expand it to PLEX. despite your personal objections.

You exaggerate about the effect that removing PLEX would have. It will not be like a wonderland. It will still be Eve, except there will be a few more kids that get involved.

You keep trying to make this about me wanting CCP to hold my hand and I don't know why. Is it because you had it tough and made it through a tough initiation that you think its now your turn to initiate someone, your turn to sit back and laugh while someone gets hammered like you perhaps did?

Most organizations are doing away with hazing for just this reason.

Ok you are now prohibited from docking at any noncorp station.
Navies now will kill any ship caught
Any items left in NPC stations or lost to a captued station is gone forever.
At anytime a director may take whatever they please from your wallet or hangars.
There will be no usage of help sites.
Oh and you will have to submit a birth certificate copy proving you are over 20 to play.
There no more child's play for you.

Can you come up with a good reason why they shouldn't be an ingame item?

I don't see a reason for screwing with a system that works. Lord knows, EVE has very few of those as is.

I would argue that scamming in EvE doesn't make you a bad person but shows that you fantasize about being a bad person.

Which I suppose if you think about it, still makes you a bad person.

If there is a god, he probaly still considers stealing play money as stealing. You probaly won't burn in the same circle of hell as say Bernie Madoff, but it is probaly not a pleasant place.

People don't spend money on things that they don't enjoy for one reason or another.

Trying to buy ISK with RL money and then being forced to use a trade system that is designed with the possibility of deception and manipulation and then being ripped off is not fun.

They will probably not buy another PLEX or come back to the sandbox.

The sandbox will shut down if people don't send CCP enough real money to pay staff and keep the servers running.

Allowing someone to come in and look around a bit and taking their ISK a little bit at a time does not make Eve any less grim and dark and dangerous. It makes Eve more vibrant and interesting. And even though the mark got ripped off they will most likely come back with more money in the future.

I'm suggesting that PLEX be removed as an option for new players to buy in game items. There are many other options which will better allow a new player to buy a few in game items and look around at Eve, idc which one they implement in its stead so long as it allows someone buying in game currency to play with it a bit, and that experience makes them more likely to come back to Eve and spend some more money.