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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:14:00 -
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Good post. What you said makes sense from a RP-perspective.
Why would the other 3 non-Caldari races not try and make a defence against missiles? I'm sure the Amarrs would find a Laser that cut through missiles, or the Gallente would invent drones that could take down missiles in mid-air - for example.
One of the problems pre-patch was the lack of defence for frigs/inties against missiles. See a Raven and you're as good as dead. Defenders didn't cut it (and missiles travel too quickly now to make them much use). ---------------------------
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:26:00 -
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That must be broken.
Either that or there's a hidden part of the missile changes/formula that CCP hasn't decided to tell us about... ---------------------------
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.10 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kthol RegusII First day of patch i thought oh noes!!! im ****e missiles dont work no more what am i gonna do now i have the new skills to lvl 3 im chuffed cruise do 400-550 damage on bs about 130 on frigs takes a couple of volleys but they soon pop :) lvl 4's seem to be easier now :) cant wait to see what lvl 4 and lvl 5 in the skills does to me missiles :)
Do you have some logs of that?... ---------------------------
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.10 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Fear
Missiles do damage (and good damage) to cruisers at every range with no defense, and do enough damage to drive off or kill frigates in short order. Is it a 1-volley kill? No. Deal with it.
It takes us approximately 5 volleys of cruise, torpedo or heavy missiles (supposively the 'cruiser' weapon) to kill a mission cruiser (100k).
This is at any range, even with painters.
It's even more for frigates (unless you decide to fit light missiles and lose any chance of breaking a BS tank).
Drones? They get destroyed very very quickly with the new NPC targetting.
Webs? Painters? Webs are close-range modules...isn't the Raven, with these new cruise missile changes and all, supposed to be a long-range ship? Painters make so little difference they're worthless.
Small guns? They don't do nearly enough damage vs. the elite frigates you fight in missions.
Missiles are useful as secondary weapons on an Apoc (for example), but guns aren't as good on a Raven. ---------------------------
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.10 19:51:00 -
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130 dmg torps to frigs? Righhtt...  ---------------------------
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.11 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nnnng Urghhhh [ 2005.07.09 14:29:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Guristas Kyoukan barely scratches you, causing 7.2 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:29:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 112.5 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:30:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Scourge Heavy Missile I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 51.8 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:30:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Guristas Kyoukan, doing 120.9 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:30:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Guristas Kyoukan, doing 141.0 damage.
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[ 2005.07.09 14:35:24 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 112.5 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:25 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 345.1 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 400.3 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:27 ] (combat) Dread Pith Extinguisher lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:28 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 399.3 damage.[ 2005.07.09 14:35:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 251.0 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:30 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 295.2 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:31 ] (combat) Dread Pith Extinguisher barely misses you.
ok so i exaggerated a bit but not much i certainly cant complain at the damage me missiles are doing funnily enough me cruise outdamage me torps
Those are not 'consistent' hits however. Out of how many cruise missiles do your missiles hit for that damage on frigates? ---------------------------
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