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Derisor
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Posted - 2005.07.06 10:41:00 -
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And to kill frigs you merely have to install a few standard missile batteries instead of loading up on siege launchers across the board. Now missile users have the same decisions to make that guns users have had. Welcome to the world of decision making.
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Derisor
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Posted - 2005.07.06 10:47:00 -
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 Originally by: ErrorS
Originally by: Derisor
And to kill frigs you merely have to install a few standard missile batteries instead of loading up on siege launchers across the board. Now missile users have the same decisions to make that guns users have had. Welcome to the world of decision making.
we get 6 launcher hardpoints at most.. 4 for the scorp
you expect us to run 4 siege launchers and 2 standard launchers?
or how about the scorp, yeah that will be awesome.. 2 siege launchers and 2 standard launchers.
Cmon now, exception being the tempest we have the least primary weapon hardpoints in the game for our battleships..
Guns users have been making these decisions for months. They either need to dimish anti-bs firepower and kill frigs or go anti-frig totally or anti-bs totally. Its been that way for a long time with guns users. Now missile users have the same decisions to make. "Do I swap out a siege for a standard to kill frigs or do I go totally anti-bs"
Gone are the days of raven pilots roaming and popping everything in sight with 0 effort or thoght involved.
TOugh luck for you. Better luck for the game.
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Posted - 2005.07.06 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: dreptu
Guided Missile precision will be only on f.o.f. missile not on torps ! :)) but i dont mind :)) i think is a good patch will take some time to recover but after that raven will rulz again pve
I think the tables are finally balanced and its a good thing. What will really suffer are forms of ganking piracy and they should suffer.
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Posted - 2005.07.06 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
Ok, you don't get it.
Raven has 6 primary weapon slots.
How many does the mega have? apoc?
the Scorpion has 4.. how many does the armageddon have? the dominix doesn't even count because of the drones..
Slots are irrelevant in that you cant fit full slots with your best guns. You have just as many hardpoints as guns users, and you have more flexibility. A typhoon with 4 anti-BS launchers and 4 small guns would be a tough nut to ***** for frig fleets and still effective in fleet combat. Also would a phoon with 4 medium noses. There are tradeoffs to every ship. Gallente ships have no missiles (mostly) but then they have lots of drone capability. Its a balancing act that you will now have to get used to.
Originally by: ErrorS
The ships have at least one more then the raven for a primary class, enough for a single cruiser or frigate sized primary weapon
Yes, and turrets cant fire from 200km out with the same damage as 60km out. Missiles can fire from much further out with the comparative damage of very short range antimater ammo, also with much less cap usage than antimatter. Nor can guns be used n fire and forget mode to spam anything that locks them. Nor can guns .... well ... I could go on but ive said it ten times.
If you can adapt and you can think, there is no problem. The tables are now even and if you ask me (a cruiser frigate flyer that was sick of getting popped by torps) its about bloody time.
Originally by: ErrorS
Then there is the issue of using both missle and turrets. Two small turrets on a Raven just doesn't work. Missles are played A LOT different then turrets.. primary missle + secondary guns aren't very good. But like with my Ferox, Primary Guns + secondary missles work awesome.
Why doesnt it work? You mount small guns to kill tacklers and frigates that get close. But at any rate you have to make a decision whether to balance anti-frig, mixed balance or anti-BS. Welcome to the real world of decision making. No longer does one setup kill all. Turret users have been making these decisions for ages, why cant you manage ?
Originally by: ErrorS
If you have trouble understanding this then.. well... my sister teaches kindergarten, maybe I could have her help me explain it to you.
Pointless flame devoid of content. *dismissive wave* Stick to the facts instead of getting emotional.
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Posted - 2005.07.06 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gigi Barbagrigia
OMG, you'll need a wingman. Outrageous!
Cant have teamwork now. 
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