I'm finding it difficult to rouse myself into a sufficient panic without knowing a few details. Like, any.

For example, does "intercept" mean "prevent the delivery of" or just "read"? Cause a full API lets me "intercept" your stuff too.

For now, my lynching torch remains unlit.

Wait a minute, are we all wearing the same shirt?

we should start a club. the real purpose of this thread is revealed!

You mean CCP can read our communications in a game where everything is logged? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

This is a public service announcement from the office of Darius III. When I ran for office I only ever made three promises:

Term 1- I promised to suicide gank someone at leats once a week-A promise I kept.

Term1- I promised to keep the reason that the CCP was designed for in the first place-as a check to CCP cheating- relevant; and do my best to never forget WHY we have a CSM.

Term2- To advocate an arena system.

Promise #2 from term 1 is what this public service announcement relates to. I am doing this because I believe that the players have a right to know certain things, and when I discovered that the information I am sharing was no longer covered by the NDA-I took action.

I will likely be banned from Eve for at least a short while as CCP investigates the matter. I can live with this. If I am perma banned-I would like to tell all the players I had interaction with how much fun I had and that the friendships I made in game will forever brighten my thoughts. Eve is a great game-the best game in the history of mankind with some of the brightest minds of generations playing it.

In mid 2012 I was contacted by a leader of one of the largest alliances in the game and he asked me if it was true that CCP was intercepting player communications.

Indeed that was true-CCP intercepted player communications.


This is the only knowledge that I can share with you without breaking the NDA. I apologize that I cannot give more information, but if I did-I would be breaking the NDA. That is something I will never do. I will likely be banned anyway for breaking the NDA but once they investigate-they will find that I did NOT break the NDA or the EULA.Not that that will prevent my banning-even if I followed the rules 100%

If I do not return, please know that my thoughts are with the many friends I met and I will always cherish the good times we had. Best regards, D3

Thank you for stating the obvious, Joe. Have any other widespread public knowledge about CCP that you can "leak" to us all?

Wait a minute, are we all wearing the same shirt?

I'll probably get banned for this, but I have it on reasonable certainty that CCP is out to make money.

It was good knowing you friends while it lasted. Remember me well.

I'm pretty sure that you're playing a game about internet spaceships.

I think you'll find instead that it was an internet game about spaceships. Real spaceships are hard to fit into the internet.

I'll probably get banned for this, but I have it on reasonable certainty that CCP is out to make money.

It was good knowing you friends while it lasted. Remember me well.

Guess it's that time of year for Darius to pretend he's done something, anything, for the past 8 months.

We'll try to carry on without you, somehow

EDIT: Readers may also be shocked to know that Google has copies of all your email on Gmail.

I have created the following meme, specifically for this occasion.

Go forth, and spread the word.

I'll probably be banned for this, but I'm perpetuating your meme by reposting it in the thread and later in other threads, thus ensuring that everyone is aware of it.

Do I *need* a coat to post in here?

I have no idea wtf this thread is even about, but if D3 gets banned, vOv

I'm finding it difficult to rouse myself into a sufficient panic without knowing a few details. Like, any.

For example, does "intercept" mean "prevent the delivery of" or just "read"? Cause a full API lets me "intercept" your stuff too.

For now, my lynching torch remains unlit.

The term of "intercept" in the context of intelligence means to spy, or interfere/acquire data in an inappropriate manner. In other words, I'm guessing that some parties in a war were connected to some CCP entities and used that connection to acquire logs containing valuable intel.

So not even the rest of the CSM likes Darius III, yeah?

Do your CSM-wide skype calls dissolve into hating on D3 as soon as he logs on?

I wouldn't know, because he is never on. I think he has said about 2 things on Skype this year.

and this is why i have never voted for him in any csm elections! and if he doesnt get banned, why i will never vote for him in upcoming elections

....ever.

Followup question; who did vote for Darius and why?

Guess it's that time of year for Darius to pretend he's done something, anything, for the past 8 months.

We'll try to carry on without you, somehow

Followup question; who did vote for Darius and why?

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

I endorse this message. These coats are quite amazing.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

So wait.. The game developers.. can read things... within the game they made.. a game which they own.. and one we play with their permission.

Lol I'm all for anonymity and freedom of speech, but you know, the game owners and developers in theory have unlimited right to look at whatever is going on within their property.

I'd say the fact that they let us get away with such epic naughtyness is testement enough to their credibility because I certainly would never invite half of you nutcases into my house regardless if you paid for the honor or visiting. ^_^

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

So how about sharing what you know with the CSM so we can actually get enraged and demand action from CCP. I am personally a little sad we haven't had a scandal to deal with because those are why we exist in the first place, not to be "wanna be" game developers.

... this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers...

PS: The CSM doesnt know about it because I haven't ever spoken to any of them...

I'll probably get banned for this, but you have been by far both the loudest & most useless member of any CSM ever.

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

In mid 2012 I was contacted by a leader of one of the largest alliances in the game and he asked me if it was true that CCP was intercepting player communications.

Indeed that was true-CCP intercepted player communications.

This is the only knowledge that I can share with you without breaking the NDA. I apologize that I cannot give more information, but if I did-I would be breaking the NDA. That is something I will never do. I will likely be banned anyway for breaking the NDA but once they investigate-they will find that I did NOT break the NDA or the EULA.Not that that will prevent my banning-even if I followed the rules 100%

I wouldn't know, because he is never on. I think he has said about 2 things on Skype this year.

So everyone is on the same page, while Darius has logged in to Skype for the first time in a good long while, he's still not talking to anyone.

So presumably he's just there to soak up people paying attention to him.

But seriously Darius, you should drop your campaign for the EVE CSM and run for the DUST only CSM, there are a lot of easily persuadable console gamers on DUST and you don't have to pay for a subscription to get a free ticket to Shanghai.

So everyone is on the same page, while Darius has logged in to Skype for the first time in a good long while, he's still not talking to anyone.

So presumably he's just there to soak up people paying attention to him.

this is the most pathetic attempt to create a fake scandal ever

Darius has uncovered conclusive evidence that CCP faked the moon landings and also carried out the My Lai massacre.

More details would be forthcoming but CCP are intercepting all the communications.

You know, it occurs to me that if you really cared about the promise you cite - to ~remain ever vigilant~ for CCP cheating and abuse - that you'd have told all us about it back in 2012, when you clearly first became aware of it.

But you didn't.

So, what do we conclude?

Even if your scandal has any shred of substance to it, you're full of **** and don't actually care about the CSM or your promises regarding it - you just care about that little tag on the name and what you perceive as the prestige it gives you. And so, you couldn't do anything back then that might risk it.

So transparant.

PRIVACY AND USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION

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A. Communications

Except for certain information in your Account (discussed below), all transmissions by you to the System are not private. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy regarding communications you make in the Game, whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. CCP and/or its designated affiliates and representatives may monitor communications made by or received from you. You should not provide private information to any other player in the Game. CCP shall not be responsible for the consequences of any such disclosure by you.

I bet he's talking, but CCP has been intercepting his communications.

Wait a second...does this mean CCP reads all my cybers too?

Wait a second...does this mean CCP reads all my cybers too?

/thread

Oh no! The CCP alliance will soon take all SOV!

CCP have interfered in the sandbox to the benefit of specific groups before and will do so again. If they have been intercepting private communications and giving them to particular groups of players then I'm not even surprised. That kind of thing has been going on for years, in particular to prop up alliances which recruit heavily from outside of EVE. I can understand why CCP have done it in the past and why they will continue to do so in the future.

As for Darius's accusation, we should wait for some facts before jumping to conclusions. That said, CCP has a VERY poor track record with these kinds of issues (anybody remember kugu?).

I like what you have written sir. More information would help everyone, and if I could provide it without breaking the NDA, I would. Right now I cannot. I now someone who can, and I am doing my best to get them to come forward. Stay tuned.....

I like what you have written sir. More information would help everyone, and if I could provide it without breaking the NDA, I would. Right now I cannot. I now someone who can, and I am doing my best to get them to come forward. Stay tuned.....

i wonder if CCP has a copy of this post on its server somewhere
nah, that's impossible

PRIVACY AND USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION

Please note that the terms of CCPGÇÖs privacy policy will apply in addition to the terms of this Section 7. The Privacy policy is available at www.eveonline.com/pnp/privacy.asp

A. Communications

Except for certain information in your Account (discussed below), all transmissions by you to the System are not private. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy regarding communications you make in the Game, whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. CCP and/or its designated affiliates and representatives may monitor communications made by or received from you. You should not provide private information to any other player in the Game. CCP shall not be responsible for the consequences of any such disclosure by you.

You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game or otherwise interacting within EVE. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances. CCP does not guarantee that you will not encounter behavior of others that you may view as insulting, demeaning, offensive, threatening or harassing. You assume all risk associated with playing the Game, and CCP assumes no responsibility for the conduct of any other players, and shall not be liable to you or any other person for their conduct.

CCP have interfered in the sandbox to the benefit of specific groups before and will do so again. If they have been intercepting private communications and giving them to particular groups of players then I'm not even surprised.

Is this all about not getting POSs in the next expansion?

This is a public service announcement from the office of Darius III. When I ran for office I only ever made three promises:

Term 1- I promised to suicide gank someone at leats once a week-A promise I kept.

Term1- I promised to keep the reason that the CCP was designed for in the first place-as a check to CCP cheating- relevant; and do my best to never forget WHY we have a CSM.

Term2- To advocate an arena system.

Promise #2 from term 1 is what this public service announcement relates to. I am doing this because I believe that the players have a right to know certain things, and when I discovered that the information I am sharing was no longer covered by the NDA-I took action.

I will likely be banned from Eve for at least a short while as CCP investigates the matter. I can live with this. If I am perma banned-I would like to tell all the players I had interaction with how much fun I had and that the friendships I made in game will forever brighten my thoughts. Eve is a great game-the best game in the history of mankind with some of the brightest minds of generations playing it.

In mid 2012 I was contacted by a leader of one of the largest alliances in the game and he asked me if it was true that CCP was intercepting player communications.

Indeed that was true-CCP intercepted player communications.


This is the only knowledge that I can share with you without breaking the NDA. I apologize that I cannot give more information, but if I did-I would be breaking the NDA. That is something I will never do. I will likely be banned anyway for breaking the NDA but once they investigate-they will find that I did NOT break the NDA or the EULA.Not that that will prevent my banning-even if I followed the rules 100%

If I do not return, please know that my thoughts are with the many friends I met and I will always cherish the good times we had. Best regards, D3

I wish.

(1) Give the CSM a piece of rope
(2) Wait for them to place it around their necks
(3) Tighten the noose
=> less white knights.

Assuming that Darius has more details or actual evidence it would be extremely stupid of him to share it before the other CSM members have gone on record rushing to the defense of CCP.

If you have ever had mail go missing, a package take longer to be delivered

You know, it occurs to me that if you really cared about the promise you cite - to ~remain ever vigilant~ for CCP cheating and abuse - that you'd have told all us about it back in 2012, when you clearly first became aware of it.

But you didn't.

So, what do we conclude?

Even if your scandal has any shred of substance to it, you're full of **** and don't actually care about the CSM or your promises regarding it - you just care about that little tag on the name and what you perceive as the prestige it gives you. And so, you couldn't do anything back then that might risk it.

So transparant.

Takes an awful long time for petitions to be sent back to me. Perhaps those CCP people intercept and read them first like the communists do.

Who the **** is Darius III?

Assuming the allegation is referring to a CCP employee passing on in game communications to another player so that that player, or his associates, can gain an in game advantage - surely that should be a matter to be brought up with Internal Affairs?

If you carefully study the Zapruder tapes you can see someone behind a tree on the knoll in a hoodie with a CCP logo firing what looks like a rifle from Dust...

I'll probably get banned for saying this, but you are entirely correct. Assuming there is actually evidence to potentially come forward, it doesn't change the fact that Darius III has acted 100% inappropriately about how he handled this entire thing. It is entirely the purpose of Internal Affairs.

My bet is that some blue of his was bitching and doing all that "Goons run the game and get CCP favoritism" conspiracy theory bullshit rather than admitting that this hypothetical friend's corp is an information sieve, trying to claim (without evidence) that this hypothetical friend has been screwed by CCP and unfairly getting intel handed over when in actuality it is just the same old bullshit of running a 0.0 corp and having spais everywhere.

I don't see why so much hate is coming from people and other CSM members before we've seen any facts. We should wait for the facts before coming to any conclusions.

I don't see why so much hate is coming from people and other CSM members before we've seen any facts. We should wait for the facts before coming to any conclusions.

Who the **** is Darius III?

I'll probably be banned for this, but he's apparently a member of the CSM and OHMAHGRRD HE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU RUN!

I've had to clean a couple of posts out of this thread.

If anyone has any information that they may feel constitute developer misconduct, then it should be brought to CCP via the correct channels, through our Internal Affairs department.

This thread will of course stay open, but please try to keep it relatively clean, avoid personal attacks and keep within the forum rules.

Cheers guys

I like that EN24 has already decided to roll with this like its ALREADY A HUGE SCANDAL even though there is literally zero information. Top notch journalism, doods.

Doesn't it say "Developing story" and "alleged"?

Like, the article mentions there's just speculation and that the story will be updated if there is more info. No big deal, actually.

Perhaps you're a bit too jumpy?

Also, I'll probably get banned for this, but I'm SO getting one of those damn cool red attires as soon as I can.

are you going to be running again or do we need to find another highsec candidate that will get nothing done and basically (a) act as a highsec vote sinkhole and (b) act as living proof that everything we say about the wretchedness of highseccers is true

are you going to be running again or do we need to find another highsec candidate that will get nothing done and basically (a) act as a highsec vote sinkhole and (b) act as living proof that everything we say about the wretchedness of highseccers is true

I'd like to tentatively suggest James 315 as this year's highsec candidate. I mean, who has a better understanding of highsec mechanics than the Savior of Highsec himself?

You're supposed to delete the thread and deny all knowledge of its existence, thus fuelling the fires of wild conspiracy ranting for at least a few weeks. Silly Falcon.

I'll probably get banned for saying this, but we should wait for more facts to emerge.

I made this point a few pages back, but my post got censored because it was critical of CCP.

I'll probably get banned for saying this, but I started this here meme.

I'll probably get banned for saying this, but I think you're crazy and are taking all the credit for half the work.

That's what politicians do, dummy! Get with the program.

I'll probably get banned for this but I hope Darius III runs and wins a seat again next year and keeps fighting the good fight for the playerbase.

I'm feeling underdressed ITT, where do I get one of those red jackets?

Red coats are lame. It's all about the Silvershore Greatcoat.

a ccp marketing executive is jizzing his pants right now somewhere.

a ccp marketing executive is jizzing his pants right now somewhere.

"Vegeta, what does the scanner say about the number of red shirts in this thread?"

Oh look, Darius, Issler and Xenuria all in the same thread. We can expect truly great things!

Doesn't it say "Developing story" and "alleged"?

Like, the article mentions there's just speculation and that the story will be updated if there is more info. No big deal, actually.

Perhaps you're a bit too jumpy?

'allegedly' EN24 is a 'news' website

Red Coats for everyone! (once they update)

EVE News 24 is the ONLY news website. There is the Daily Goon, but that hasn't had any news on it for some time

Lets see how long does the red shirt combo last, mkay?

Apparently, not very long.

I will probably be banned for saying this, but the sale of jackets might justify Darius' spot on the council.

Are we confessing stuff?

OK - I just had two chunky kitkats for breakfast

feels good man

I prefer the four finger ones. So I can take a bite out of the middle. Drives some people crazy

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/funny-ocd-pictures-eating-a-kit-kat.jpg

Can we assume from Darius' silence that he has in fact been banned? Do we have to return the jackets?

Can we assume from Darius' silence that he has in fact been banned? Do we have to return the jackets?

I'm sure he is putting the finishing touches to his damning masterpiece expos+¬ of massive CCP corruption and EN24 will be publishing the shocking truth very shortly.

I hope he has been banned.

Wouldn't he have to forfeit his CSM seat, like The Mittani did?

Would anyone want to sit in it?

Guess it's that time of year for Darius to pretend he's done something, anything, for the past 8 months.

We'll try to carry on without you, somehow

EDIT: Readers may also be shocked to know that Google has copies of all your email on Gmail. I hope i don't get banned from Google!!!

No sir, this is the part where I call out the rest of the CSM for spending all their time trying to be amateur game developers and not dealing with CCP CHEATING by intercepting player communications. Go back to that, let me inform the players about CCP misconduct.

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

PS: The CSM doesnt care about it much-even though IMO it should be #1 problem to address.

If you carefully study the Zapruder tapes you can see someone behind a tree on the knoll in a hoodie with a CCP logo firing what looks like a rifle from Dust...

Issler, you got elected to the CSM?

How could anyone tell?

So, did this go anywhere, or is this Darius letting us down again?

So let me lay out what I understand so far, and please by all means correct me if I'm wrong:

Darius mass email spams and scams players into voting for him.

Once elected, he disappears and doesn't do ANYTHING expected of an elected CSM member.

Darius never attends online meetings. He never offers any input or opinions. He doesn't answer his phone nor reply to emails.

CSM7 carries on never hearing even the slightest whisper from Darius.

Now that CSM8 elections are coming up, Darius is suddenly very public and vocal.

Darius now displays a White Knight facade, warning us of wild claims regarding conspiracies, cover-ups and cloak & dagger stuff about CCP.

Now he's waffling on about how he's trying to get this super important information out to the general public before big bad CCP puts him down?


This sounds less like a CSM candidate and more like a Fox News pundit. Darius fooled you once, CCP. Shame on him. Will you let him fool you twice if he runs for CSM again?

Darius mass email spams ... players into voting for him

I think you have Darius confused with Trebor.

Yeah, Darius scammed people into voting for him, with promises of isk and stuff.

Ohhh I was so excited to see this thread about the red shirts

As you can see I fill mine quite well ... not a coat as really I try to avoid covering these up its not healthy.

As for reading muh mail...have at it CCP.....just remember to edit or redact the real naughty ones I don't want it getting out what I'm prepared to do for iskies.

But back to the original reason for the thread...need MOAR red outfits....I'm thinkin red leather cat suit.

~E~

"ccp is intercepting conversations"

what, what ? does that mean every time i have chat-sex with my online girlfriend(female character which is probably owned by a dude) some ccp employee is getting horny because of my conversations ?

Once my source comes forward we will have more information.

If only he put as much creativity into his tenure as he did into his campaigning, he might actually be getting reelected.

Damn lol.. Mara Tessidar beat me to it..

On a side note, Who ever did leak these logs has now in all likelihood made the CSM even less effective then it all ready is by breaching CCP's trust.

Or perhaps they'll acknowledge that one butthurt moron should not reflect badly upon the entire group, especially when almost no one from that group will be on the council this year anyway.

If you wanted attention, guess what, you're going to get it now.