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ripper1 Tivianne
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:31:00 -
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Is it just me or dose it seem that there are hardly any belts with roids in to mine recently, im starting to get fed up of coming home from work and warping around for hours looking for place to mine..........?
Please put more roids out im not paying to fly mind boringly around for much longer. CCP |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
3535
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:33:00 -
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Tough.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Shadowschild
Black Lance
Fidelas Constans
24
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:33:00 -
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Anyone else see the irony of the corp he is in? |
Abrazzar
528
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:34:00 -
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Maybe move out into less populated areas?
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Azitek
Dragon Knights of EvE
76
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:34:00 -
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The map shows statistics such as # of jumps, average pilots active, and others. If your systems are mined out, check the map to try to find less frequented places. There's plenty of dead-end and low-traveled systems with rocks to mine. |
Dave Stark
1692
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:37:00 -
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"hi, i'm next door to jita and i expect there to be asteroids there when i get home 10 hours after downtime. there aren't. fix please because i'm too lazy to auto pilot 8 jumps (or less)"
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Whitehound
464
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:37:00 -
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Which is your preferred region?
Inappropriate signature removed. - The Pope, BBC, CIA and CCP, but not Chuck Norris! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
3539
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:39:00 -
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This is a PVP game.
PVP includes, believe it or not, depleting the asteroid fields yourself before anyone else can.
Try going to areas where there's less of that.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1538
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:40:00 -
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Early bird gets the 'roids in the most popular systems.
Some timezones make it easier to log in right after downtime than others, which does suck.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
18
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:46:00 -
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Got on last night about 11pm EST and found lots of roids. Only 3 or 4 jumps from a major trade hub. |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
206
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:56:00 -
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Those miners doenst care, they are good only to blob outnumbering solo miners and clearing belt after belt. There's no fairness and no chance for a "good mining".
I think CCP should put some new in game mechanic to halt this unconsensual mining. Like if one enter a belt then others need to have his consent to enable the roids for mining.
Or just make some kind of instanced mining arenas, where everyone can mine in the same way removing any risk of competition or interaction. |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
206
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:00:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Maybe move out into less populated areas?
what??? And why one should be forced to put some effort and jump away from his home system? Only because these grieffers zerg the belts with their mining ops clearing everything in few seconds? It's more easy for CCP to change the game and place neverending mining spawns |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1539
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:13:00 -
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This is becoming more of an issue as increased ship destruction increases demand for minerals. Ive found even low traffic dead end systems stripped. There are several things CCP could do to help the situation.
Have roids respawn at any time. Anomalies do so. Signatures do so. Incursions do so. Roids should as well. Make mining time zone neutral.
Make some sort of scanner that allows a belt to be scanned at range (several AU) for content. At least then when you warp to a system you can see if its mined out rather than having to individually warp to 15 belts and check them all out.
As anomalies and signatures already respawn at any time, add some grav anomalies and increase the grav sigs.
Have mission belts persist after the mission is turned in.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Solstice Project
T E R R O R I S T S
2655
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:19:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is a PVP game.
PVP includes, believe it or not, depleting the asteroid fields yourself before anyone else can.
Try going to areas where there's less of that.
dude, chill out ! *lol*
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
43
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:34:00 -
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I suggest Amarr space.
The island could always use more miners. Its a hi sec island cut off by low sec so if you can get through low sec, you pretty much have the whole place to yourslef.
The trading hub so to speak is the system is Mili.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby" |
Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
19
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:14:00 -
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Everybody is always keeping secrets in this game. Try Rancer or Amamake. Plenty of rocks to mine there. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2462
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:20:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:This is becoming more of an issue as increased ship destruction increases demand for minerals. Ive found even low traffic dead end systems stripped. There are several things CCP could do to help the situation.
Have roids respawn at any time. Anomalies do so. Signatures do so. Incursions do so. Roids should as well. Make mining time zone neutral.
They do. Just install the industry upgrades into your iHub.
If you want to stay in HS, pay mercenaries to keep the belts clear of miners until you're ready to mine.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
453
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:21:00 -
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ripper1 Tivianne wrote: ...coming home from work...
There's your problem right there. By the time you're done working, the 'Bots have already done their thing and moved on.
OK, I could tell you to mine in missions, which works, or mine in Anoms, which works, or move to lower Sec, which works, but I sense you're looking for an easier answer - and there is one. But it's not as 'simple' as it sounds at first, and it also won't happen.
If asteroipds spawned in smaller numbers, but more often, the average quantities of resources would remain constant, and you'd have to wait less time for a re-spawn; maybe even a short enough time to suit you.
- BUT -
Those thinner respawning belts would attract a LOT more attention from other miners, whom would've normally already have had their fill and logged. And from 'Bots. And from gankers.
When water ('roids) are scarce, every critter, including the preditors, gets drawn to the waterhole.
But that's not why it won't happen. The 'why' is that it's extra work for CCP, and the way things are now suit the vast majority of people just fine. So... See the other alternatives, above.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1683
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:24:00 -
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ripper1 Tivianne wrote:Is it just me or dose it seem that there are hardly any belts with roids...
It's just you.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
45
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:30:00 -
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An alternative to roid mining is ice mining. It's slightly less isk per hour but the ice belts never run out and you can basically afk it.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ice_harvesting_guide
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby" |
Flakey Foont
227
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:41:00 -
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Effort....it's the new Black. |
Dr No Game
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
49
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:42:00 -
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ripper1 Tivianne wrote:Is it just me or dose it seem that there are hardly any belts with roids in to mine recently, im starting to get fed up of coming home from work and warping around for hours looking for place to mine..........?
Please put more roids out im not paying to fly mind boringly around for much longer. CCP
Please disregard poster CCP I'm not paying for you to add more asteroids to the game when OP is just a lazy whiner.
/thread
Edit* Also, really, flying around in space is more boring to you than sitting stationary in space? Really? This has to be a troll attempt now that I re-read the OP. |
Google Voices
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:44:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Early bird gets the 'roids in the most popular systems.
Some timezones make it easier to log in right after downtime than others, which does suck.
Which is a broken mechanic.....Why are spawns done at downtime....a real sandbox would have roids spawning randomly....
I am the voices of Google! Want answers? Learn to read...... |
Dave Stark
1702
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:58:00 -
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Google Voices wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Early bird gets the 'roids in the most popular systems.
Some timezones make it easier to log in right after downtime than others, which does suck. Which is a broken mechanic.....Why are spawns done at downtime....a real sandbox would have roids spawning randomly....
i know, why don't we take the servers down every hour, on the hour, to repopulate all of the belts?
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Bing Bangboom
Ded End Damage Inc.
United Sytems Against Terrorist Opperations
117
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:05:00 -
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I'm trying real hard to come up with some way to work the New Order into this but... nothing.
A slap fight between the miners over rocks. Too boring flying around looking for asteroids so the OP can mine...yay, let the mining excitement start!
OK, out.
www.minerbumping.com
BBB |
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
667
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:15:00 -
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Don't worry, we're on it. ;)
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2542
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:03:00 -
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My wartargets find places to afk mine while at war less than an hour before downtime. You need to look harder.
Hint: Spend some time learning about asteroid spawns at different security levels and in different empires. Once you have a good handle on that, use dotlan's maps to find the right kind of system for you. If you're JUST looking to mine, try being somewhere that's not loaded up with other things.
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
44
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:18:00 -
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I'm sure the New order is behind this. Mining all the roids before the real miners can get there. Its all to stop them from being able to do what they most love. |
Perramas
Decretum Tetrimon
2662
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:29:00 -
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If you have a friend or alt account with an Orca hit up the Khanid systems that have no stations in them. There are always belts to be found with giant asteroids in those systems.
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people- Eleanor Roosevelt |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
89
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:33:00 -
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ripper1 Tivianne wrote:Is it just me or dose it seem that there are hardly any belts with roids in to mine recently, im starting to get fed up of coming home from work and warping around for hours looking for place to mine..........?
Please put more roids out im not paying to fly mind boringly around for much longer. CCP
1. Belts respawn at DT. Only. If you don't get to one in time, it's gone.
2. Belts, in Hi Sec, respawn with the same number of rocks, the same number of rocks of each type, and in the same positions.
3. If you kill a belt, or even a single type of rock in a belt, it takes 3 days for the rocks to get back to full size. IOW, keep killing one that was already killed, and you will get small rocks every day.
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Abrazzar
531
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:45:00 -
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Doesn't a grav site spawn somewhere else once you have depleted it or it expired?
If all else fails, there are still a few missions worth mining in.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
89
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:18:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Doesn't a grav site spawn somewhere else once you have depleted it or it expired?
If all else fails, there are still a few missions worth mining in.
Never done a grav site. They don't seem to be efficient uses of time. The only belts I mine during missions are during mining missions. Same problem.
Edit: Never done a grav site in Hi Sec. Sorry. |
Sorlac
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:22:00 -
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As a dedicated solo miner who generally can't log in until after 6PM EST, I fully and completely disagree with the OP. If finding belts with plenty of asteroids still in them is too much work then obviously mining isn't the proper career choice for the OP; I would suggest taking up station spinning that might be more up your alley.
There are more than enough asteroid fields out there that finding one with plenty of rocks left isn't that hard. If you are too lazy to move to a less populated system then take up scanning and mission running. While scanning can take some time to find a field the pay-off is usually worth it.
Also if you take some time you can usually find a couple of agents that will send you on a mission that will have a large amounts of asteroids at that complex. Ten you just run the mission real fast, change to your mining ship (do not turn the mission yet), mine all you want, when your done turn in the mission for a little added profit. BTW some of the best mission mining sites I've found so far was from lvl 1 missions which you can pretty much run with a brand new character; granted I hadn't really run many lvl 2+ missions so you might get better ore in the tougher mission sites.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
775
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:17:00 -
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Google Voices wrote:Which is a broken mechanic.....Why are spawns done at downtime....a real sandbox would have roids spawning randomly....
Ya know... that's actually a really good idea.
Instead of "downtime = 100% respawn and nothing else" put each asteroid on it's own 24 hour timer. Time not dependent on downtime. That way personal timezones won't be such a limiting factor.
Note: Not as resource intensive at it sounds.
EvE Forum Bingo |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
89
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Posted - 2013.01.26 04:29:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Google Voices wrote:Which is a broken mechanic.....Why are spawns done at downtime....a real sandbox would have roids spawning randomly.... Ya know... that's actually a really good idea. Instead of "downtime = 100% respawn and nothing else" put each asteroid on it's own 24 hour timer. Time not dependent on downtime. That way personal timezones won't be such a limiting factor. Note: Not as resource intensive at it sounds.
Maybe not, but would you be willing tp program it? I wouldn't. Far too many variables. |
ripper1 Tivianne
No Win Scenario
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:22:00 -
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A varied reaction to my post as expected , some useful info posted back by a few and i thank you for that. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
140
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Posted - 2013.01.26 11:08:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:Effort....it's the new Black.
What? Implying thatblack people don't do effort or go to work and have paying jobs. Black people put in effort too! Just cause they stole a bicycle or a car once or set up the gambling ring in your highschool doesn't mean you can lump them all together like this! Racist!
Racist! |
s1n1ster m1n1ster
Beyond Divinity Inc
8
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Posted - 2013.01.26 16:39:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Those miners doenst care, they are good only to blob outnumbering solo miners and clearing belt after belt. There's no fairness and no chance for a "good mining".
I think CCP should put some new in game mechanic to halt this unconsensual mining. Like if one enter a belt then others need to have his consent to enable the roids for mining.
Or just make some kind of instanced mining arenas, where everyone can mine in the same way removing any risk of competition or interaction.
uh... no about the instanced mining arenas
you have missions for that if you want really
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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
68
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Posted - 2013.01.26 16:48:00 -
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Myrissa Kistel wrote: Everybody is always keeping secrets in this game. Try Rancer or Amamake. Plenty of rocks to mine there.
Don't forget Aunenen and Kinakka too  |
Sairi Katelin
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.01.26 16:57:00 -
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I fly around highsec ratting to relax and what do I see? Asteroids, asteroids at every belt I visit. Go a couple of extra jumps out. |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
93
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Posted - 2013.01.26 17:36:00 -
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How many of you knew that there is a system in Hi Sec, accessible through Hi Sec, that has 50 belts?
The ore isn't the best, but it would take a while to clean it out. |
Dave Stark
1718
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Posted - 2013.01.26 17:42:00 -
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Not Politically Correct wrote:How many of you knew that there is a system in Hi Sec, accessible through Hi Sec, that has 50 belts? The ore isn't the best, but it would take a while to clean it out.
0.8 system, do not want.
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
210
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Posted - 2013.01.26 18:09:00 -
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Not Politically Correct wrote:How many of you knew that there is a system in Hi Sec, accessible through Hi Sec, that has 50 belts? The ore isn't the best, but it would take a while to clean it out.
You are assuming that OP is a real miner that puts in effort. Don't make that mistake, OP is a Mining Drone. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5086
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Posted - 2013.01.26 19:31:00 -
[44] - Quote
I think the majority of characters posting in this thread don't even log into the game. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2480
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:16:00 -
[45] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Asteroid Belts in high security have indeed been nerfed. Just like how most everything else pertaining to high security has been recently nerfed, it's only a matter of time before the roids get hit.
So, which nerfs are you talking about?
The only recent HS nerf I can think of is the Incursion nerf.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Sairi Katelin
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:25:00 -
[46] - Quote
The only change is the Venture. That means that newbies who log in after restart who have miner dreams can actually shred all the belts near them for a jump or three, leaving everyone else to rage 'zomg no asteroids i dont pay to have things be mined out arglbrgl' the rest of the day. |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
311
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Posted - 2013.01.26 21:06:00 -
[47] - Quote
Shadowschild wrote:Anyone else see the irony of the corp he is in?
Ha-ha good one, seriously go get a low level mission and mine roids there mostly Veldspar but buy needed minerals with xtra trit you don't need.
If I told you where to mine a roid plagoclase 400,000 units but the catch is only venture can get thru the gate eve mail me. |
Deebs McFluffen
United Kings
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 21:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Google Voices wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Early bird gets the 'roids in the most popular systems.
Some timezones make it easier to log in right after downtime than others, which does suck. Which is a broken mechanic.....Why are spawns done at downtime....a real sandbox would have roids spawning randomly....
You know I have always thought random space events in a system would rock(Pun Intended). How cool would it be for a rare comet spawn to be slowly pacing its way through a system and could be mined by more mobile miners etc., and the ores from it would be well worth the effort.
p.s. I in no way touch rocks other then to see what my missiles look like flying outta my ship when I am bored. |
Renzo Ruderi
State War Academy
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.01.26 22:49:00 -
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Flaming aside, there simply is no shortage of belts to mine. I've checked as late as half an hour before reset, there are belts all over highsec, including 0.9 systems, completely untouched, every day.
People just don't want to make 3 or 4 jumps to get their payday. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
783
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Posted - 2013.01.26 23:09:00 -
[50] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:What? Implying thatblack people don't do effort or go to work and have paying jobs. Black people put in effort too! Just cause they stole a bicycle or a car once or set up the gambling ring in your highschool doesn't mean you can lump them all together like this! Racist!
Hey buddy, I hate to break it to you but WW2 is over... your side lost.
EvE Forum Bingo |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
94
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Posted - 2013.01.27 02:20:00 -
[51] - Quote
Most of what is being posted here is either off topic, or designed to display the ignorance (not stupidity) of the poster. If you want to learn about mining, the only way to do it is to mine, and keep records, and notes, and use spreadsheets to figure out what is the most efficient use of your time.
I've been mining for years. In Hi Sec and Null. I could tell you what you really want to know, but why should I? No one told me. You need to find out for yourself. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
376
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:07:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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