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Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:30:00 -
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With over 20 pirate ships (corp. names not included) in the HED-GP system attacking lone wolves as they travel through =) . But once a group of ships come to visit these pirates, they logged off. Here is one squad looking for their welcome mat, but the pirates seemed to have closed up shop for a few hours =)
I love this game, as many bad things people say about PC Pirates, they give an element to the game I enjoy. I look forward to more encounters in the future with PC pirate corps. I am sure after all the trash talk both sides dished out during this Standoff, the pirates had a little fun too =)
See you out there,
Cheers
Click on the link below for a larger ScreenShot image.
http://www.eve-solarwind.com/solarwindimages/images/Stain.jpg
Edited by: Napalm SW on 13/07/2003 16:54:52
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:35:00 -
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It would be nice if you elaborated on how many ships actually appeared. Saying more than one is a bit vague.
1. Number of ships?
2. Types of ships?
I find it very hard to believe that 20 ships logged off because, say 2 ships appeared, which is the impression you wanted to give.
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Murdoc
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:37:00 -
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Stain Alliance ....keeping the skies safe ;)
good work guys wish I could have been there to help |
Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:39:00 -
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lol, This was a screen shot of a Group Of Stain Alliance. I see more than 2 ships in this picture, I was not trying to be misleading... The Gang windo is there as well, It has more than 2 people in it :)
Cheers
P.S. Tisk, Tisk, And of course I will not give out exact name and numbers, for security reasons :)
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:42:00 -
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Napalm:
Nice pic but I'd suggest turning it into a hyperlink before some mod decides to delete the post for stretching the forums and other bs.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:42:00 -
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So you moved 20 ships in one squad and didn't destroy anthing?
ROFL!
Buahahahahahaha. We need a new comic here.
Edited by: Molly on 13/07/2003 16:43:57
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:46:00 -
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Good point Jash Illian,
I have changed it to a link.
Molly,
We can not fight that of which is not logged in *wink*
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:49:00 -
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"Molly,
We can not fight that of which is not logged in *wink*"
And that's maybe the difference between you and the pirates. When we move 20+ ships, we get some destroyed :P.
<sarcasm>
Unmount the mining lasers, mount weapons. Might help.
</sarcasm>
Edited by: Molly on 13/07/2003 16:49:11
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Murdoc
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:49:00 -
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Molly, the Stain Alliance has IMO the biggest military in EVE. the pirates new they could not win so they logged or ran off. and this group of stain members is nothing to what would be put together for a full out war. |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:50:00 -
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Yeah, Stain goes to full war and everybody logs off. Lol.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:59:00 -
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Dear Molly,
There were several Pirate losses (some were only scouts). Sorry to burst your bubble =)
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:02:00 -
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"Dear Molly,
There were several Pirate losses (some were only scouts). Sorry to burst your bubble =)"
Aha. So they didn't log off.
You are contradicting yourself :-(.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Maarek Steele
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:04:00 -
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I hate to break it to you lads, but most smart pirates won't stay and fight. Wheres the profit in it? By the time most groups get a fleet assembled we've already made several million in equipment, isk, or trade goods.
So I ask you, how effective is chasing off the pirates after they've made thier money? Yippee, you broke the blockade after 3 hours or whatever.
-=Maarek Steele=-
Have gun, will travel. |
Angus Grim
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:05:00 -
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heh, as usual, a highly one sided version of events.
The number of kills last night was through the roof, but did include two battleship kills. Our loses were zero.
At the end of the night this horde assembled, but never came. They had probably better then 30 ships to our 10 and would not make a move. We waited and waited. We even warned them that if they didnt come soon we were gonna be logging. Sill nothing. So we left. The problem with these multi guild alliances is that nobody wants to take the brunt of the damage by jumping in first. They knew as well as we did that the fight was already decided, we couldnt possible win, but they also knew that the first 5 ships to jump in where toast including at least one of their battleships.
Kinda like pointing a six shooter at a crowd of a dozen attackers. Sure you can't kill them all, but who wants the first bullet?
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Angus Miner
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:05:00 -
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heh, as usual, a highly one sided version of events.
The number of kills last night was through the roof, but did include two battleship kills. Our loses were zero.
At the end of the night this horde assembled, but never came. They had probably better then 30 ships to our 10 and would not make a move. We waited and waited. We even warned them that if they didnt come soon we were gonna be logging. Sill nothing. So we left. The problem with these multi guild alliances is that nobody wants to take the brunt of the damage by jumping in first. They knew as well as we did that the fight was already decided, we couldnt possible win, but they also knew that the first 5 ships to jump in where toast including at least one of their battleships.
Kinda like pointing a six shooter at a crowd of a dozen attackers. Sure you can't kill them all, but who wants the first bullet?
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Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:08:00 -
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Quit being a idiot, molly. You know as good as I that they still can kill some scouts before the main pirate force realizes that this catch is a little too big for them and retreats with their tails between their legs...
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Torval Sontu
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:09:00 -
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I think the point is it is mostly wannabe pirate corps and it's members complaining about pvp and fighting in this game YET when given a fight or challenge by someone their size or bigger they hide like the carebears they so scream about :).
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Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:10:00 -
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My Sweet Molly,
 Quote:
Aha. So they didn't log off.
You are contradicting yourself :-(.
Hehehe, Let me break it down a little more (Molly is so cute when she is angry) *blows a kiss toward Molly*
1. Number of pirates
2. Pirates Kill lone players
3. SA gets a few ships together for some Chest thumping :)
4. SA confronts Pirates
5. SA kills a few pirates
6. Pirates and SA exchange words
7. Pirates log off.
8. We kept the blockade down for a few hours
9. Some lone wolfs lived to see another day :)
Any questions my sweetheart, I am sure you do Cutie =)
Edited by: Napalm SW on 13/07/2003 17:13:59
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:11:00 -
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"Quit being a idiot, molly. You know as good as I that they still can kill some scouts before the main pirate force realizes that this catch is a little too big for them and retreats with their tails between their legs..."
Read Angus' post and call me an idiot again.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Murdoc
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:14:00 -
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and thats why you stay in catch and not in stain. the alliance decimated M3G4 and Da Dragons. you can say anything you want but the fact is the Alliance is the boss down south ;)
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BoneDancer
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:16:00 -
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We have camped three jump point since Friday night and the total kill count is easily 50+ yesterday alone there ware 20 dead ships in HLW, 20 dead ships in U-QVWD, and 20 dead in sv5.
We DID stay and fight the first force that came and killed literally 80% of them when they straggled through the gate individually.
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Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:19:00 -
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First, his message wasn't there when I wrote my part.
Second, just because he writes that it doesn't neccessarily means that it' the truth. Most pirate posts I've seen in the forums tried to spread misinformation instead of facts.
And, third, I haven't called you and an idiot because you were doubting the "truth" of the first posting, but because you were playing dumb and twisted the words of the previous posters :p
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Maarek Steele
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:24:00 -
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You're bragging about chasing off two of the biggest jokes in game?
Thats almost as bad as the guy who bragged about 'beating the ****' out of The Gang when we were all pirating in frigates :-/.
-=Maarek Steele=-
Have gun, will travel. |
Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:28:00 -
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hehe, who is bragging. In order to be bragging we would have to of done massive damage. I personally was not bragging, I only was having some fun :)
I am sorry if I have offended you :)
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Gauss
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:35:00 -
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Napalm do you know what 'revisionist history' means?
We had 10 ships. 6 battleships, 4 cruisers. You had 28 or so at your gate, including four battleships. We'd sent ships to the planet next to it to user a scanner.
We waited for a long time for you to warp in and attack. And you were like "waa waa we already lost 2 battleships earlier" or something. I dunno why you didn't attack. I'd like you to explain it.
Anyway, we waited for over an hour. Then we told you "hey if you don't attack in 10 minutes we're leaving and logging because it's late and we're tired." And you didn't. So we left and logged.
You then took that opportunity to warp in and take your 'victorious' screenshot. You are a retard.
gauss
moo
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j0rt
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:46:00 -
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Like Gauss said dude, we did wait there in the same system for over 2 hours for you to come fight us, you had atleast double our numbers, probably more. Half of the corp is British, by that time it was 5am and we couldnt wait any longer, I could hardly stay awake so half of us logged. we did tell you we were logging if you didnt come and fight us
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:54:00 -
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Sorry to dissapoint you Napalm but like j0rt said it was very late. We'd already satisfied our bloodlust earlier when we destroyed 2 battleships and countless cruisers belonging to Independant Miners Guild and The fenix alliance among others. Its amazing how people try and twist things to make themselves look good :/
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Hanns
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:58:00 -
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j0rt has a point, alot of you yankee doodles, foget alot of us live in the UK, i live in the UK and when my corp decides to go on a mission they foget im like 6 to 7 hours ahed of there time, i have litterally fallen asleep before now while blocading, luckily i didnt loose my ship.
And another thing, you boast about how they all logged off, **** i dont blame them, half asleep and outnumbered like 3 to 1, all you pirate hunters brag about how you own, or how we were chicken, id like to see what you would do if m0o warped to your home system or mining location outnumbering you 3 to 1, i dont think youd be sticking around for very long!
Edited by: Hanns on 13/07/2003 18:00:40
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Tnelyos
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Posted - 2003.07.13 18:27:00 -
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i don't understand what all the arguing is about. this is how pirating is supposed to work. pirates prey on the weak and helpless. they never willingly go into a fight they can't win, they usually don't have the support necessary to suffer big losses.
if you want to catch a big group of blockading pirates, then you've got to patrol every night. send disposable scouts out looking for a blockade and have a fleet waiting. amassing a fleet AFTER a blockade has been discovered and expecting to take be able to kill all the pirtes is silly.
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Gauss
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Posted - 2003.07.13 18:30:00 -
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Solar wind is just so much hot air.
Most of the stain alliance is cool.
If I were the stain alliance I'd consider kicking these lame ass windbags out.
gauss
moo
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.07.13 18:34:00 -
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You lot could be here all day, and we'd get nothing but ego's, opinions and statistics.
Please, keep the *****ing in game.
-Necro
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Napalm SW
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Posted - 2003.07.13 18:48:00 -
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I am only having fun, I am not saying anything mean about anyone, and I had som fun last night.
Part of the game is politics and this is what makes eve so fun :)
I was not expecting the pirates to get so aggressive in their posts.
See you in game guys, it is all for fun :)
Cheers
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Shollos
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Posted - 2003.07.13 19:05:00 -
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Yeesh..
Talk about propaganda...
This stain alliance fleet did nothing buy camp a gate in wd-vtv for 2 hours with 21 cruisers and 4 battleships(yay for scanners). you managed to kill one cruiser that wasn't even aware what was going on(still under orders at that time not to kill SA).
Not to mention we were not even IN hed-gp when we all left, we were in wd-vtv....so basically your picture is of a fleet gang warping around after we had already left, nicely done!
At least the IMG/Fenix alliance fleet had the balls to jump in and fight(though they did pay for it, good fight guys)
Edited by: Shollos on 13/07/2003 19:09:35 |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.07.13 19:15:00 -
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hmmmz
stav
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Hanns
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Posted - 2003.07.13 19:16:00 -
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Heh, i used to be in TFA, looks like im missing out on all the action :)
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Torval Sontu
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Posted - 2003.07.13 19:16:00 -
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Interesting to see if you guys warp into a gate camp instead.
CCP should really mess around a lil bit since the only winners of battles are the people sitting at a gate.
I suppose setting warp in distance would be helpful in this situation.
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:09:00 -
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I wonder what would happen if all those pirate corps decided to Invade Stain.
Who would win? That would be interesting b/c it would be a fight over terratory and not jump gates
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:15:00 -
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Like the man said, he who holds the territory will win.
That is why pirates very very rarely make an advance move. They camp and camp and, oh, camp some more.
Pirates have the advantage of being able to target the incoming attackers while the attackers are still stabilizing their magnetic field.
If they chose to invade Stain they'd have to do it one system at a time but they'd never do that - losses would be massive.
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/07/2003 20:16:23
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:21:00 -
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Anyone seen my dog scoobie around here? Can't find my damn dog.
<here scoobie - come here boy>
Could of swarn he ****ed on this thread before he ran off.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Crownan
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:32:00 -
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I'm not sure I understand why the very people who scream bloody murder about how CCP is killing PvP didn't just warp over to the other group when presented with this opportunity to engage in some quality PvP.
Maybe it's really not PvP they are after? Just really want to be gate-camping gankers?
Edited by: Crownan on 13/07/2003 20:33:46
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:34:00 -
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Crownan,
It's because the group which has to warp-in invariably takes huge losses.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Dirty B
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:53:00 -
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It was a shame that we didn't get a piece of them that night. It was hella fun talking sh*t to those guys. Another day will come when we will pod you guys. Till then, I will be scouting you guys all over the universe as I am doing right now!
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Crownan
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:54:00 -
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Ah, so the PvP they are screaming for is really only lone cruisers or indy's warping up to a pirate group at a gate in empire space.
PvP is not the pirate group warping into another group of larger size waiting for them.
I see....
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.13 20:59:00 -
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It's not about size.
It's about the advantages of camping a position compared to the disadvantages of warping into a camped position.
Hell, I'm not saying they're using an exploit - it's sound tactical planning.
However, unlike most battle tactics, this one has no appreciable counter-tactic.
Other than overwhelming force.
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/07/2003 21:02:54
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Ozium
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Posted - 2003.07.13 21:04:00 -
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From the spam in IRC last night, this is roughly what happened. 2 Battleships and 15 cruisers jumped in on the Sin/m0o boys. It turned into about a 45 minute fight. In the end an Apoc and Arma were downed for them along with 10 of the cruisers. Sin/m0o had no losses.
They then accidently killed a Stain BS, and then the Zerg arrived. After Stain spent 2 hours or so ****ing into the wind, Sin/m0o packed it in, as obviously nothing was going to happen.
This is a revolutionary way to fight. You bring 30 ships to a battle, but never engage, you wait for them to log off and then you are the victors! Never lose a ship. Revolutionary!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.13 21:08:00 -
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"Spam" - a-ha!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
semp
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Posted - 2003.07.14 11:32:00 -
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What a fantastic battle
1st Group
Well were waiting at our Stargate come and attack us.
2nd Group
Well were waiting at our Stargate came and attack us
continues for several hours, then peeps log off.
Wow, with excitement like this i cant imagine how you guys ever do anything else.
Semp
CEO Tyrell Corp
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Tallon
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Posted - 2003.07.14 20:09:00 -
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There is a lot that happened and to just boil it down to the final standoff would be a incorrect way of thinking of this piece of EVE history.
#1 The SA was a fleet that flew some 20+ jumps to opppose this threat.
#2 We did search for the pirates in an attempt to destroy them. After hunting them for a while we decided to camp a gate that traped them between a 0.5 system and the gate we were at. It worked we had actully cornered the pirates and kept them from returning home for 3 hours. If this was a real life senario we would have sent in ships to destroy them while holding the gate. It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel.
#3 So after the pirates found our blocade they camped the other gate and started talking trash for the rest of the time. Everyone knew whoever took the first jump would take heavy losses. So were we scared or just smart? I say we did not jump in to them was smart so that we could fight another day. They did the same thing.
#4 As far as I know the fleets were close to the same size (ours flew 20+ jumps) (they were defending home territory). we had anywhere frome 15 - 25 pilots. We counted up to 20 pirate ships at one time (best guess). So when they got smaller in #'s was it then just a trap? Hmm do you expect Moo to fight fair.. we did not.
So all in all we isolated the pirate fleet in all of its glory down to one system with a fleet that traveled a long distance. It would have been nice to have a second fleet to do the mop up work while we blocked the escape route. Or beter yet have the fleet relieve us so we can go in :)
So I came, I saw, and the pirates do really talk a lot of trash... That is all I can say about them.
Tallon
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.07.14 20:23:00 -
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everyone supposedly using scanners posts different numbers. Whatever.
I find it incredible that 2 b-ships and 10 cruisers can be annihilated having inflicted no damage on anything. Como se dice "concentrate your fire?" Even with the advantage of being at the gate already, how could they possibly not have taken a single ship with them..? Were they all just shooting at different targets, or what? Was this also an utter failure of gangwarp? When lined up decently prejump, then i've noticed a gang tends to arrive in small groups even when not altogether.
What the hell did you mount on those battleships? Smartbombs?
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BoneDancer
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Posted - 2003.07.14 20:43:00 -
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"I find it incredible that 2 b-ships and 10 cruisers can be annihilated having inflicted no damage on anything. "
We destroyed 3-4 when they warped into us we warped trhough the gate in retreat, what would have been a rout turned into a slaughter as the enemy kept coming through the gate 2-3 at a time.
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Tallon
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Posted - 2003.07.14 21:02:00 -
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For all interested this was the first few who arrived on the scene. When the "Fleet" arrived it became a standoff. Again we were fighting on the pirates home turf. It is expected that we lost some ships due to coordination problems. When they were resolved and we got orgionized it became a standoff, again I say we were on the pirates turf and we had cornered them between a 0.5 system and our blocade..
It was a good exercize for us. Next time we will be more battle ready. I believe this was the first major fleet movement out of our home territory.
Tallon
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Zinke
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Posted - 2003.07.14 21:03:00 -
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It would have been slaughter.
So what?
Perhaps you should stay and fight next time.
Its very disappointing to see people blame CCP for killing PvP when most vocal killers are not interested in it at all.
Before JOrt and other wise guys start coming here and posting crap they shouls ask themselves what would happen to this game if everyone was thinking and behaving same way they do.
After all there is lots of gates in this game for all of us to senselessly camp.
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Tallon
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Posted - 2003.07.14 21:16:00 -
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We would have loved the help from other pilots but I do not know a way in this game to send out a general broadcast to all pilots in the area. If there was a way to do this it would have been a blood bath :)
We even made killed a innocent pilots ship after we had a spy ship warp in. We replaced his ship, (I believe he got upgraded and we gave him ISK for his troubles) and he started calling his corp to come help on our side.
Errr maybe not the pirates would have logged off. Calling it going in to hiding like all good little pirates should do... Turn on the light and watch the roches run :)
Maybee if more corp's want to join in these fleet actions we need a contact name within the corp for the next call to arms.
Tallon
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.07.15 07:21:00 -
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It was a fun fight :) Oh and there was no foul play at the end, we were just 9 in number. If you had warped in at the end you may have stood a chance of killing someone but alas no!
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Tallon
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Posted - 2003.07.15 20:15:00 -
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Yes it was fun... Sadly it was the most fun I have had in weeks in this game. We will have to do it again. Or I am going to have to find something else to do... Mining is killing brain cells, Trade runs pain in the butt and I had enough of that in E&B. Agent missions are currently broken and I have been wating for almost 2 weeks for some kind of support to fix it. Maybe I can camp a gate with you guys next time to see what that is like.... Maybe I wont fall asleep at the kbd like I did lastnight!!!
Tallon
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.07.16 19:33:00 -
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Stain Alliance follows people around so they get so disgusted and log off. If traders do that, so would m0o :)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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