Here's the deal you care bear empire dwelling turds, NO AREA IN EVE SPACE is SAFE, this includes empire so get used to it.

If you don't like it go back to playing with your WOW panda bears.


PS Gimme all your sh*t before you leave i take all donations seriously.

I can confirm that I have been bumped within 10 seconds of undock, targeted and killed.

I am not butthurt about it, but I am curious why CCP provides invulnerability, and then allows bumping off the undock WHILE still under invulnerability.

I am pretty sure I have seen this when hanging with RvB too.

Just seems to me, you're either protected on the undock, or you're not. It shouldn't be that you're protected, but you're not.

^^^ So this is how today's 13 year olds are on the internet.

Perhaps your parents should supervise you more when you are posting.

Sounds like you did something to break your invulnerability.

Pretty sure I didn't, but maybe I did. I don't know if GMs can look into that, but I think I will put in a petition.

Obviously, there is limited invulnerability when undocking, so then wouldn't that make bumping off of undock an exploit, and it so, why haven't CCP addressed it?

inb4 bad posts
inb4 people who like to bump
inb4 station games are worse

If you'll kill (or try to) something/someone, you can bump it. If you're bumping them just to annoy them, you can get petitioned and GM will send you a nasty notification.

Been like that for a very long time.

Did you do literally anything other than Ctrl-Space? If so, you voided your invulnerability.

Afaik you don't have collision during the invuln period

there's an invulnerability timer until your ship moves so that you can't get blown up before grid loads. Being bumped off station while you haven't loaded yet has the same effect.

As said before in the thread, however, you cannot be bumped while on the timer.

Pretty sure I didn't, but maybe I did. I don't know if GMs can look into that, but I think I will put in a petition.

1. I thought you could, in fact, bump before the timer ends. Maybe this explains why I'm so terrible at bumping.
2. Being bumped prior to the invulnerability timer ending does not magically end the invulnerability timer early, so your logic is wrong and people will not "get blown up before grid loads."

In many years of playing Eve, this is the first time I've heard this called an exploit.

Also remember that some stations are much easier to get bumped out of redock range very easily. There is one Minmatar station design that actually undocks you outside the redock range.

GǪand I'm asking why would it be, since he's a bit unclear on the reason for asking that question.

The tool you want to use to defend yourself in this situation is an insta-undock bookmark. If you google it I'm sure you'll find a guide to making one.

There's no such thing . . . in Jita at least.

Here's the deal you care bear empire dwelling turds, NO AREA IN EVE SPACE is SAFE, this includes empire so get used to it.

If you don't like it go back to playing with your WOW panda bears.


PS Gimme all your sh*t before you leave i take all donations seriously.

For clarification, if you try to bump someone before their undock timer ends you simply fly through them. They are, in effect, intangible. You see this effect all the time at crowded undock points like Jita 4-4... all manner of ships flying through each other at first. They only begin playing bumper cars when people start changing course, they activate a module, or their timer runs out.

Other than the station that's lined up with the 4-4 undock of course

This is absolutely incorrect. Was the person who told you this wearing a tinfoil hat?

I go to Jita IV/4 a lot. If there are three other freighhters in fron ot me, or even one, I run into them in a lot less than 30 seconds.

I have a QE point there. It only works when there is nothing big in front of me.