My Incursus operates at 0 km and I eat kiting ships for breakfast lunch and dinner.



That's a nice opinion. There is no best way to fly a frigate.

If you want to play dirty, use a hard counter anti-kinetic hardener in whichever fit you use. A hookbill is very likely to shoot kinetic at you. To lay in wait with short tackle and scan res upgrades at warp in might work well to catch kiters.

Hookbills are very decent.

I currently fly a dual prop hookbill with buffer tank. (I tried an asb fit out and while good (49/4 kills) the buffer is better).

I kite brawlers with javelin and brawl kiters with navy ammo. The only 2 ships in a novice I fear are DD's and Cruors.

In smalls the only ships I fear are certain AF's. It's 50/50 with most dessies if i'm warping in to them and if they have to warp in to me I am happy to engage most things.

Hookbills are lovely ships. It's downside is no utility high for the all important nos when you want to tackle something larger than a dessie.

5 midslot ships to me are just begging to be dual propped, My hawk fit takes a similar philosophy simply because I value flexibility over specialisation when on long roams far from my home bases. Someone tries to hard counter me they'll have to bring something good or more than likely some friends.

But then again micro warp driving can leave you at a serious disadvantage inside scram range. I like your point about flexibility over specialization, but when I see a micro warp driving Hookbill with rockets I immediately think "I can exploit that weakness". Because with that MWD taking up a mid-slot, you've reduced it to basically a four-mid-slot ship when it comes to scram range.

Frigate PvP is all about specialization / counters imo, unless you're extremely skilled, which I am not.

[Breacher, New Setup 2]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Internal Force Field Array I
Co-Processor I

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Light Missile I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin II x2

This is pretty much a hardcounter. Vs a rocket using ab fit, well you permatank him (if he switches ammo, his dps will be low enough to tank him, vs kinetic you can tank 300dps per booster). It will take a wile but you will kill him. If he is one of the dualdamp mwd ones, load fof missiles and keep your ab speed up, you should be able to permtank him just fine, while your missile kill him/force him to leave.

Vs most other stuff this fit suck tho.

It's generally about who has the most links these days.

It's generally about who has the most links these days.

That's actually false, but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

-Liang

If you thought that was true you wouldn't have about 5 link characters. 1 skirmish link with a web range bonus can decide a frig fight - and you damn well know that.

If you thought that was true you wouldn't have about 5 link characters. 1 skirmish link with a web range bonus can decide a frig fight - and you damn well know that.

I came across a boosted Hookbill once. I was sad when it webbed me at 20km.

The tactic and fitting you and your opponent use overcomes any such thing most of the time, and Interdiction Maneuvers is probably the most irrelevant boost when you're talking about a frigate 1v1 (because tackling first doesn't mean you win).

I'd be more concerned by someone with boosted speed and / or tank. But I like a boosted frigate as my enemy because it gives them confidence in their frigate's abilities. And a confident frigate is an exploitable frigate. (Just ask all the faction frigates I've destroyed with my Incursus).

Anyway I live in low-sec and I know for a Truth that most frigates and destroyers out here do not use any sort of fleet booster, and the ones that do stay mainly in a single system.

Right.. Because your tactics are going to help so much when the rail DD webs you at 18km xD

Or when that condor can comfortably orbit you at 28 km pretty much guaranteeing you can't slingshot him.