Mr. Stark I believe you have just crossed the line of no return of sillynes to the max.... Getting rid of 90% of belts would then get rid of the infinite belts... Making low end materials even less valuable and making our expensive ones very high and profitable....

no it wouldn't get rid of the infinite belts; because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. not to mention those infinite belts in 0.0 don't provide low end materials, that's half of the problem with 0.0 industry at the moment, the lack of low end minerals.

honestly, go and find out how mining works and THEN we can have this discussion where i'm not simply informing you how the game works because you decided to make suggestions on part of a game you know nothing about.

So those infinite belts dont provide low end materials eh? I hate to say it but you kinda wrong. I would probably say there is too much Veldspar to count...

If mining paid better, there would be much more fighting over it. Mining should pay 10x what it does now.

Large Asteroid Cluster
Bloodtear Industry Index Report
List of ores contained within:
Ore Amount Asteroids
Arkonor 65,000 1
Bistot 150,000 1
Crokite 40,000 1
Dark Ochre 50,000 1
Gneiss 60,000 1
Hedbergite 80,000 1
Hemorphite 80,000 1
Jaspet 120,000 1
Kernite 400,000 4
Mercoxit 10,000 1
Omber 400,000 3
Plagioclase 0 0
Pyroxeres 0 0
Scordite 300,000 2
Spodumain 50,000 1
Veldspar 0 0

wrong, was i?

I have no idea where you got that info man..

Well first lets just take a look at the definition..

Veldspar is the most commonly found ore in New Eden, populating asteroid belts in every corner of space. When refined it yields a large portion of tritanium, one of the fundamental ingredients in star ship construction.

Corporations with access to a Rorqual or Orca will quickly see the benefits of harvesting veldspar en masse instead of attempting to squeeze valuable minerals out of much smaller asteroids.

Now I had no idea that HighSec allowed Rorquals into their space to mine Veldspar in masses. This can only mean that they mine Veldspar aka low end mineral in low/null sec. Mr. Stark. (Now I know your next post will be how Rorquals don't even mine ore, trying to go offtopic are we? But the functions of the rorqual deal with mining so much.)

Your idea wouldn't work OP for one simple reason; if miners wanted to PEW PEW we would be out PEW PEWing and not sitting around blasting rocks.

Your idea would be similar to tieing all PEW PEW PvP to mining; which ever side clears out the asteroid fields first wins and the other side loses their ships (they just disappear with no glorious explosion or kill-mail)

You are saying this same thing over and over. You just said that there isn't enough low end ore to mine in nullsec but there is.

From what I see that index looks pretty old.

Should I inform myself that I need to do my few clicks every 15 minutes or so???

yep, so much low end ore in null sec that trit/pyerite etc is imported in jump freighters full of railguns used to compress the minerals. right ho, they just use jump freighters for fun right?

sure it's old, but you know what's older? grav sites, they haven't changed since that report was produced except the isk/hour values, which are irrelevant. the composition of the grav sites are still the same, and it's still a perfectly valid resource.

see, the fact that instead of going and learning about the activity you're proposing changes for, you're just making stupid comments.

i know, how about we remove rat bounties and all missions above level 3 because it's an isk faucet! see, i can make stupid comments on a subject i know nothing about too!

Why do people jump freight lots of low end minerals? Because they need the stuff at the right place at the right time maybe they dont even want to deal with mining but we are talking about the actual mining here not when it is used and how it is used.

Actually it is the other way around I struck down your objection and you won't admit that it won't hurt for a change in mining...

actually, we'd just stop mining because if we have to be at the keyboard we'd be doing other activities that weren't such poor isk/hour.

Less miners -> less ore mined -> less ore sold -> ore worth more -> ISK/hour goes up.

Of course it's a horrible idea to make mining require more activity without also modifying some mining mechanics such as how ores are distributed etc., but my point still stands.

Less miners -> less ore mined -> less ore sold -> ore worth more -> ISK/hour goes up.

Of course it's a horrible idea to make mining require more activity without also modifying some mining mechanics such as how ores are distributed etc., but my point still stands.

Less miners -> less ore mined -> less ore sold -> ore worth more -> ISK/hour goes up.

Of course it's a horrible idea to make mining require more activity without also modifying some mining mechanics such as how ores are distributed etc., but my point still stands.

You consider mining an activity in EVE? Have you ever played eve fullscreen no music, no other game running, but just fullscreen while mining with the game sounds? I find it quite boring to be considered a real activity. CCP could turn mining around into one of the best aspects in eve instead of a click and wait ACTIVITY.

It is not about just changing mechanics if you read but the whole idea of mining as a whole! And for earlier i struck down the fact that you said that there is no low end minerals to mine in nullsec but then i went to the eve fact book (EVElopedia) and quoted that veldspar is found in masses throughout EVE INCLUDING nullsec

Mining IS an activity, where the not-fun players have discussions between their won alts about how [insert player name here] is such a baws and has sex like 80 times a day.


Mining is also an activity for REAL players... to invite their australian pvp-corp buddies to come hang in a highsec belt drunk and jabber over comms about rugby and kangaroos kickboxing foreigners who cry at the first sign of a giant spider, while using drones to try to kill eachother and steal vekldspar.

maybe MY experience in a mining corp was a little odd i suppose.

You consider mining an activity in EVE? Have you ever played eve fullscreen no music, no other game running, but just fullscreen while mining with the game sounds? I find it quite boring to be considered a real activity. CCP could turn mining around into one of the best aspects in eve instead of a click and wait ACTIVITY.

Why isn't mining in EVE like THIS?!?!

Because half the player base would quit if they had to learn to play a WASD controlled game.

Mr Epeen

If you don't like mining, don't do it.

I wouldn't mind shaking things up a bit. But then again I'm not a miner. :)

He doesn't.

i think you need to understand what "proof" is, because that quote wasn't it. besides in your idea you took 90% of it out... so, y'know...