correct, using those conditions you listed above, the lender can just sell the carrier for more than 1.5% roleplay interest.

i understand babie's first carrier is a tough thing to get rid off, but at the end of the day, its just an asset, and its useless now., so just sell it. skip the roleplay and get on with it.

role playing was sposed to be a subtle troll, but i'm afraid buttfrustration has come too early.

simply selling the carriers would skip the following:

1) devalued loan against it, the item may not come back to you (i would just keep it if it was worth more)
2) interest has to be paid

when you can just sell them, and get there current value.

so, again, why not just sell them

We do not sell items we choose to use as collateral out right because we do not believe it is in our best interest.

-1.5% monthly return on principle
-3 week length, with the possibility of options to extend 2 weeks at the end of original term

Why is the return you are offering so low?

Last time I checked, you're not Grendel and have no reason to expect people to accept such a low return.

Most people that are willing to accept sub 3% ROI on an investment are looking for something with very low risk and no effort that they can drop their isk into and forget about it. But you are offering 1.5% on a 3 week loan with less than ideal collateral requiring negotiation over it's value... which pretty much excludes you from that audience on every count.

Also, why are you comming to MD for this? Why not go to BMBE, VV or Grendel for a straight collateralised loan?

The reason why we rather not use a third party is because of the cancellation options outlined in the original post.

If full collateral is given, then what difference does it make?

I'm not talking about using them as a third party, I'm talking about getting the loan from them. I'd recommend you end this failed attempt and just speak to Torn Soul (of BMBE) about getting a loan secured on your collateral. They offer weekly interest rates that are better than you are likely to get in MD.


In your case it's the difference between getting a loan and getting trolled.

Im not familiar with torn soul, what is BMBE?

I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.

I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.

when people continually tout for investors

continually

continually

continually

well I guess you get the drift

Regarding our reputation, no worries mate. We are trying to do the right thing by coming to market discussion forum and are committed no matter what the out come.

Our ideal terms, and the terms of established lenders differ. The cancellation options are the main issue.

We are not Grendell or Chribba, but we do offer collateral. We dont have credibility, and we realize that, but everyone has to start somewhere. Keeping up on this post and offering collateral for isk is the right way to do things, and i feel we are bringing more to the table than most of the offerings from players with out a business record in forum.

2% is too low expecially if collateral are carriers and similar.
Also, I am providing loans in a thread like 4-5 posts below this, you might want to see some economic terminology, study this forum a bit for common interest rates and see if there are loaning services before you commit into creating a thread that shows you did not do all your homeworks and thus makes your life harder and more trolled.

You mean like: Suspicious activity flag activated!

OP, if you guys are good at market trading and you've done it for a long while (as best I can tell you've been doing it for some time now) why do you still need loans?

Why not just sell the carriers, take that ISK, turn it into more ISK, and buy a new carrier?

Why are you asking for 'loans?'

Please, get down to the roots of what you are doing and explain, clearly, why you are trying to get loans and for what purpose.

I invested with New Eden Trade Group about 2 months ago and have been pretty satisfied with the returns, communication, and level of professionalism. Just my 2 isk.

for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

Uh yeah...wow. I don't intend to prove anything. I only weighed into this thread because I was stunned at the level of paranoia and spite over a simple business proposal. If one is skeptical, they should just move on. Why such emotion?

talking about emotions...for somebody who is not related to the op you are overly emotional attached to them, imho.

why dont prove it tho? its nearly no effort and would be the first sign ever for them to look at least a bit legit.

Jateel could be an alt of mine on an account that is in no way connected to NETG.