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Kyra Quinn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 10:58:00 -
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This isn't a complaint post although I realise it may be explained like that. I'm looking for a nice active corporation to join, I have read the guides in this forum on that topic and while they're very useful and make sense it doesn't really help.
I've tried the recruitment channel but that's mostly just people spamming stuff. I've tried the ingame corp finder but found that the sliders and variables you can set don't necessarily affect the listed corps so that doesn't fill me with confidence. I've been keeping an eye on the recruitment forums but it's just more of the same. It seems as if there's just 5 corporation types:
1 we're not really active nor do we really do anything amazing, also we have 7 members of which 2 may login sometimes
2 we mine or run missions, don't expect us to interact or have teamwork
3 we live in 0.0 space and recruit uninformed newbies because that will work out well
4 we do "everything", please join us
5 we like your tax money so we set it to 10-15% but don't expect anything in return
Without trying to turn this into a recruitment post I could really use some pointers on where to look.
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Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
146
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:00:00 -
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What kind of corp are you looking for?
Why don't you make a post on the recruitment forum saying a bit about yourself and what you're after, and check out the replies? Let them come to you :) |
Sin Pew
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
192
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:01:00 -
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Kyra Quinn wrote:This isn't a complaint post although I realise it may be explained like that. I'm looking for a nice active corporation to join, I have read the guides in this forum on that topic and while they're very useful and make sense it doesn't really help.
I've tried the recruitment channel but that's mostly just people spamming stuff. I've tried the ingame corp finder but found that the sliders and variables you can set don't necessarily affect the listed corps so that doesn't fill me with confidence. I've been keeping an eye on the recruitment forums but it's just more of the same. It seems as if there's just 5 corporation types:
1 we're not really active nor do we really do anything amazing, also we have 7 members of which 2 may login sometimes
2 we mine or run missions, don't expect us to interact or have teamwork
3 we live in 0.0 space and recruit uninformed newbies because that will work out well
4 we do "everything", please join us
5 we like your tax money so we set it to 10-15% but don't expect anything in return
Without trying to turn this into a recruitment post I could really use some pointers on where to look.
What exactly do you want to do and what are you expecting to find in a corp?
"haiku are easy,
But sometimes they don't make sense,
Refrigerator." |
Kyra Quinn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:11:00 -
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wow, quick answers :)
Well, I figured that if I start listing what I'm looking for this does turn into a recruitment post but I'll take that risk. Also, I'd rather not just barge into the recruitment forum without trying other stuff first hence me posting it here on the newbie forum.
What I'm looking for is the following:
- decently sized corp, not too small and not too large, I found in other MMO's that having an active core of 20-25 people is kinda the max I'm looking for
- I'm from Europe so should be active in my time zone
- I'm mostly focussing on exploration for now but might have a peek at pvp at some point, I'm open to suggestions other than "mining" or "run missions", "we do everything" is something I don't fall for
- active corp with interacting members, who know what they're talking about, can help me get ahead and who appreciate an active and inquisitive but clueless newbie
- mature without silliness and with good knowledge on the game
- no silly tax
It shouldn't be that difficult :P
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Sin Pew
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
192
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:23:00 -
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Kyra Quinn wrote:wow, quick answers :)
Well, I figured that if I start listing what I'm looking for this does turn into a recruitment post but I'll take that risk. Also, I'd rather not just barge into the recruitment forum without trying other stuff first hence me posting it here on the newbie forum.
What I'm looking for is the following:
- decently sized corp, not too small and not too large, I found in other MMO's that having an active core of 20-25 people is kinda the max I'm looking for
- I'm from Europe so should be active in my time zone
- I'm mostly focussing on exploration for now but might have a peek at pvp at some point, I'm open to suggestions other than "mining" or "run missions", "we do everything" is something I don't fall for
- active corp with interacting members, who know what they're talking about, can help me get ahead and who appreciate an active and inquisitive but clueless newbie
- mature without silliness and with good knowledge on the game
- no silly tax
It shouldn't be that difficult :P
Well, if you look at corp member counts, you can usually say that 25% of the members represent the amount of real people, others likely just alts with such or such purpose. So you will need to skim through the potentials with roughly 150 members to have a rather active bunch of people.
Then the timezone is a *****, your best bet to have an idea of how active they are in your TZ, is if they have an active public channel ingame. Lurk there, get to know them, don't rush into applying because a recruiter is on, take your time to have a feel of the guys. (EDIT: their KB also shows timestamp of the kills)
I already mentionned it yesterday in another thread, but check what they advertise and compare it to their killboard, I've seen corp advertising low-sec piracy yet only had one guy ever killing solo or being killed regularly in low-sec.
Active corp with interactive members is pretty much hit or miss, can't really be sure of it until you're in.
Mature and good knowledge of the game... don't join corps founded by young players, avoid "we ganged together with other newbs and made a corp". And as far as maturity goes, eve player-base is generally of a higher maturity with players averaging 30yo. (hearsay, no hard proof of it, but feels matching to me so far)
Taxes... if the corp has solid in-game revenues they can provide low-taxes and corp benefits, but if they don't, they need to fund their expenses somehow, you want benefits and not contribute to the welfare of the corp? Even if it's only knowledge and experience sharing, it's worth something, I don't find 10% to be a horrible tax rate.
As per finding corps, right-click show info on people you see around along your travels can provide you with many different corps to lookup, as well as the corp/alliance recruitment forum.
"haiku are easy,
But sometimes they don't make sense,
Refrigerator." |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
310
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:23:00 -
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1 We are very much active, and have gotten into an Alliance to have even more stuff happening.
2 We don't mine or mission unless we have some goal in mind. Please be fleeted for gang PVP.
3 We live in lowsec and will gladly take the time to explain some gameplay mechanic. By example if need be.
4 As I said we don't mine. We don't manufacture. We explore, rat, do PI and engage in small-scale PVP.
5 We like tax (5%) and in return provide services on our POSes and the occasional PVP ship for ops.
Just to point out these corps exist, although they may indeed be a tad hard to find a corp that's truly newbie friendly. It also depends on your expectations of newb-friendly, as this can mean multiple things. Do you expect ISK handouts for PVP ships? Do you expect advice on how to best fit you PVP ship? Or do you want to get into a fleet with an FC that goes easy on low SP characters? many ways to support the newbro, but as you said you can't do it all and expect anything to be done, really. If push comes to shove you can always start your own corp and surround yourself with likeminded individuals. Starting a corp from scratch is no small feat though, and aside from external dangers you always run the risk of turning into what you despise most (a tyrannical idiot operating on years-old knowledge and a bloated ego). Good luck! |
Merouk Baas
485
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:25:00 -
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She's looking for a nice active corporation that doesn't run in 0.0, is focused on a specific goal, has many people online who socialize a lot, has no taxes or huge benefits from low taxes, and is looking to recruit newbies because they are critical to the corporation's continued success.
Truth is, a lot of high sec corps do suck, and there are various reasons for it. But, like in any MMO out there, the good / end game guilds don't recruit or have a high rejection rate, and aren't looking for newbies.
So find a corp that you like, regardless of whether they're recruiting, and talk to them and convince them to add you to the team, or start with what's available and work your way up. There are no easy to use tools for finding corps; CCP sucks at tools.
From the corporation's point of view:
- they can't tell whether you're the alt of an enemy or a true newbie
- you can steal all they have
- you can PVP their members
- you can spy on their comms channel and inform their enemies
- you can't really contribute a lot
- the corp's goal may not be specifically to help newbies out, or train them, or guide them
In addition:
- high sec activities are often better done solo - a high sec corp won't have much to keep it together
- PVP (low sec or null) is usually what keeps corps together, focused, with a goal, ship replacement plans, etc.
- you rejected that |
Kyra Quinn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:50:00 -
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Quote:you can usually say that 25% of the members represent the amount of real people, others likely just alts with such or such purpose. So you will need to skim through the potentials with roughly 150 members to have a rather active bunch of people
Hmm ok, that makes sense.
Quote:Just to point out these corps exist, although they may indeed be a tad hard to find a corp that's truly newbie friendly. It also depends on your expectations of newb-friendly, as this can mean multiple things. Do you expect ISK handouts for PVP ships? Do you expect advice on how to best fit you PVP ship
I'm not looking for handouts. I'm active, not an idiot and I have my "pride" so I'm looking for a corp with active people where I can catch on and do my part while learning stuff in the process.
Quote:- high sec activities are often better done solo - a high sec corp won't have much to keep it together
- PVP (low sec or null) is usually what keeps corps together, focused, with a goal, ship replacement plans, etc.
- you rejected that
That makes full sense, I may have to set more realistic "requirements" or rethink my goals, at least for now.
Quote:EDIT: What you're describing in your blogs (talking to people - EVE Uni - and reading up on guides about the game) is the way to go. You may also have to get your newbie helping in this forum and/or from guides, and separate it from what you're looking for in a corp. And, PVE corps mostly suck.
I read, talk and type a lot if you haven't noticed :P
On another note how critical is using voice? As I'm on a laptop sitting in the living room and have to pay attention to what's happening around me I can't shield myself off using a headset nor will the built in microphone&speaker setup work really well. |
Forest Archer
Explorer Corps
Exhale.
27
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:52:00 -
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Voice comms aren't necessary till you start to pvp.
Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. |
Sin Pew
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
192
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:01:00 -
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There are headsets with a single driver, keeping your other ear free for round-you stuff.
"haiku are easy,
But sometimes they don't make sense,
Refrigerator." |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
1045
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:02:00 -
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Kyra Quinn wrote:4 we do "everything", please join us
It's my experience that these corps are the corps you join if you're looking for a good Awox. Or that you declare war on if you're looking to shoot a bunch of terrible pilots who run around like headless chickens.
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Disastro
Wrecking Shots
Black Legion.
53
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:32:00 -
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Kyra Quinn wrote:This isn't a complaint post although I realise it may be explained like that. I'm looking for a nice active corporation to join, I have read the guides in this forum on that topic and while they're very useful and make sense it doesn't really help.
I've tried the recruitment channel but that's mostly just people spamming stuff. I've tried the ingame corp finder but found that the sliders and variables you can set don't necessarily affect the listed corps so that doesn't fill me with confidence. I've been keeping an eye on the recruitment forums but it's just more of the same. It seems as if there's just 5 corporation types:
I think you need to realize that the recruitment channel is difficult for anyone to do recruiting in without spamming the message over and over. Why? Because everyone in there is spamming messages over and over. And your post quickly gets lost in the clutter. In addition there are always at least half a dozen jerks posting and typing non recruitment related things in there for no other purpose but for adding to that difficulty.
The eve recruitment forums are much the same. There is a sea of recruitment posts. You post your message and after about 2 hours it will have scrolled off the first page and be on page 6 or something. Its no ones fault. It is just that busy. All a corp can really do there is list what they offer members and what they require for membership.
The best way to find a corp in this game is to do what you do in game (mission/mine/pvp) and find people doing the same and make friends. Then join their corp. There will always be some amount of uncertainty in joining corps run by people you do not know. The good thing, however, is that you can always leave the corp if you end up flying with folks you turn out not liking or who become inactive. |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
341
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:33:00 -
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What you describe you are looking for is entirely reasonable (and realistic).
But I'd also suggest not to sweat it :) Perhaps if you stop looking and simply do what you like, you shall find (?)
Using myself as an example, I've spent years in NPC corps or my own one-man corps, but this didn't stop me from playing with other people (especially when in the FW NPC corp - and flying with people gets you lots of nice recruitment offers). I've been in some "real" corps as well and still chat and and fly with the people I know from them, despite us being all over New Eden. The best ship is friendship - the 'official' corporation has become an afterthought.
i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling. |
Kyra Quinn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:59:00 -
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Quote:The best way to find a corp in this game is to do what you do in game (mission/mine/pvp) and find people doing the same and make friends. Then join their corp.
Quote:
But I'd also suggest not to sweat it :) Perhaps if you stop looking and simply do what you like, you shall find (?)
Perhaps that's the better way to approach it, right now I'm kinda forcing it as a next step on my to-do list which is probably wrong. Part of my reasoning for it is that I enjoy the social aspect of MMO's and since there's no general chat channel the "I'm alone here" feeling kicks in rather quickly.
Many thanks.
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Ronix Aideron
The Ugly Ass Kickers
Mech Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:16:00 -
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Once you have goals in mind another way I found to find a corp is to look at the established offices in the station you are based out of. This will tell you if there are corps that run out of the same area you do.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron |
Merouk Baas
487
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:31:00 -
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I was going to touch on socializing, but didn't want to go off-topic.
We're kinda like Horde vs. Alliance here, you've seen a bit of it. Hordies are rumored to be nasty heartless hardcore PVP'ers, but you roll horde-side and they're the nicest people to their buddies. Meanwhile Alliance is where you find the jerks and where the general chat is full of crap.
Because of the game's focus on PVP, and because an anonymous alt can actually steal the whole guild bank, teleport in PVP'ers on top of his corp buddies, and generally be a nuissance, there's a lot of mistrust going on, and people will only be nice to the corpmates that they fully trust, and there aren't many of those.
People will be nice and offer advice when it doesn't cost them anything (or if they're the teacher personality). As an example: how can I get started - pages and pages of advice, but try "what specifically can I trade to make profit, and nobody will reveal their secret cash cow.
PVE in the game is simplistic and everybody does it to make some money; and so it's better solo than sharing your profits with a group, or risking that your group will PVP you. There's socialization, but it's more along the lines of being in a crowded public corp channel (which the newbie corp has).
The game's PVP is complex, and it's a group activity, and this is where people socialize based on doing an activity together. You have to trust your buddies, and you have to get good at the PVP (you can't breeze through with eyes closed like you can PVE). PVP is a cash sink, you lose ships, but the veterans have PVE alts that are established enough that they can spare a bit of ISK to fund a newbie's ships. They also tend to recruit through the method of: ROFL - I killed you! Hmm you didn't whine, and you're asking for advice, here's some, and hey you're pretty cool, would you join my PVP group?
Not all PVP corps are good at it, but you have a better chance of finding a good group than with PVE. And for large PVP alliances, recruiting is closed!!!! but you can often join a corp within said alliance and build a reputation as a good pilot from inside, and all of a sudden hey, you're a famous member. |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
341
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:38:00 -
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I skimmed your blog and was pleasantly surprised to see how new you are to Eve in light of the kind of questions you're capable of asking.
You posted about EVE Uni. While I have no direct experience, it's probably one of the safest learning environment for the practical aspect (since you're seemingly capable of reading the theory) of player fleets and whatnot. By safe I mean the aspect trust (that Merouk also touches upon) - trust as in the people behind that classes are probably genuinely interested in helping their students.
If there's some specific activity you want to try in practice, feel free to convo/mail.
i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling. |
Kyra Quinn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:02:00 -
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Quote:Not all PVP corps are good at it, but you have a better chance of finding a good group than with PVE
Yes, that's what I'm slowly starting to figure out. My main MMO has been WOW where PVP mostly consists of button mashing, corpse camping "lol nub" 12 yearolds which doesn't really float my boat. I've been chatting with people via rookie channel and am finding that it's mostly PVPers who are capable of rational and unbiased opinions. It's just my (probably mistaken) preconception of what PVP is that's kept me away from it. For now I'm going to take things step by step and stick to learning the basics and securing an income.
Quote:I skimmed your blog and was pleasantly surprised to see how new you are to Eve in light of the kind of questions you're capable of asking
Being new to EVE doesn't mean being new to MMO's or life itself :P I read a lot and ask many questions soaking up the information and then I effectively parrot what I've learned. Doesn't necessarily mean I know what I'm talking about :)
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Merouk Baas
487
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:29:00 -
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PVP is strategy and tactics rather than button-mashing bunny-jumping reaction.
There are a million classes of ships, and although you can fit them however you want, certain fittings work better. You determine what class/role you're going to play when you pick the ship and fit it. Once you undock and are in space, the outcome of a fight is mostly predetermined; if the enemy brings the rock to your scissors you will die, you just have to go through the motions of doing so. You don't really have extra weapons or tricks up your sleeve, and neither do they, the only thing is if they make a tactical mistake or you make a mistake.
It's chess; a knight is a knight, and knight will take pawn or pawn will take knight depending on board position, with the epic animated fight between the foot soldier and the armored cavalry unit being cool but ultimately not the point of the game.
The adrenaline rush is still there during the fight, of course, and people play for it. It's just the outcome of an encounter is based on planning and organizing you can do beforehand, so the PVP is way different than button-mashing. |
Eternal Montage
Frontier Explorer's League
Sadistica Alliance
90
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:19:00 -
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I didn't read all the responses but I'd like to offer my two cents. A lot of the best PVP corps in the game shoot and recruit. As in, you go out solo roaming, you fight some one, and if you fight with moxie and you're a good sport and they like the cut of your jib, they might recruit you. I can't tell you exactly where to go for this to happen but I think it's one of the best ways of finding a corp. You just do you, and a good corp will find you. It's how my corp recruits, and I can tell you we're a really good corp/alliance.
Your other option is to go the typical route, you can easily join RvB or Eve Uni and instantly get thrown into the action. Both are great choices. Personally I like Eve Uni a little bit better because they teach you more than just pvp. And furthermore they'll fight anyone--they even have a base in lowsec.
Your other option is to come fly with me. I'll bring you on a few adventures and get a feel for you and recruit you if you've got the right stuff. HMU in game. Or you could just find any mentor. A good mentor will introduce you to the game and slowly bring you into their corp. In any case, I think the type of corp you're looking for requires some trial and tribulation.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169738 |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
Project Wildfire
242
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:24:00 -
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How to find the corp that is right for you.
From your posts it seems you have already tried most of the basics,but this link will help you when it comes to doing more of the background checks and will also give you some advice on how to talk to the recruiters, and alternate methods of finding a corp that suits your playstyle 
Good luck with the search!
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread |
Steven Koskanaiken
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:44:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:How to find the corp that is right for you.From your posts it seems you have already tried most of the basics,but this link will help you when it comes to doing more of the background checks and will also give you some advice on how to talk to the recruiters, and alternate methods of finding a corp that suits your playstyle Good luck with the search!
2nd time you beat my main to post it
But OP, read the replies and a corp WILL be found eventually. Dont stress it if it doesnt happen in a couple of days.. |
Kyra Quinn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:54:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:How to find the corp that is right for you.From your posts it seems you have already tried most of the basics,but this link will help you when it comes to doing more of the background checks and will also give you some advice on how to talk to the recruiters, and alternate methods of finding a corp that suits your playstyle Good luck with the search!
It's listed in the Q&A so I DID read it and it helped me a lot, thanks :)
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
68
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:58:00 -
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Have you considered Faction Warfare or Red vs Blue? |
Shalinea Vyvorant
Gradient
Electus Matari
1
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:57:00 -
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Hi!
((
What worked for me was to join corp public channels after I researched what corp were out there that met with what I was looking for. In my case that was a role play corp. Even then it was probably close to a month before I was into the corp that I decided was best for me. It has turned out great!
I too came from many years of playing other MMOs, EQ and EQ2, and a long long time ago the first telling of A Tale in the Desert. I was a little hesitant about EVE and it's "I'm a spaceship" thing but I took right to it and subbed for a year after halfway through the trial.
I must admin that my first thought when I started reading this thread was "Hmmm... That is a pretty nice jacket you are sporting in your official pic for a fresh to New Eden player" but your wonderful blog posting (Genesis) cleared that up for me fast!
))
But ya... you otta hop into the public channels of a few corps you are interested in and chat em up a little!! I think that is a great way to find out if you are gonna get along with them!
Ok Fly safe out there and remember to stop once in a while for a refreshing Quafe!
Shali |
Steven Koskanaiken
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:41:00 -
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Just finished reading your blog.
Why can't all new people in EVE be like you, specially those that come from other MMO's and WoW in special.
Would safe us a lot of time and explaining EVE =/= WoW.
And in general the EVE population works by following rules:
* Be a ****** = receive ******** feedback.
* Be a whiner = receive full aggro back.
* Be someone with an open mind and friendly attitude = people will be friendly towards you (on forum and chat, not always in space).
So basically, the responses you get from the population is a reflection of your attitude towards EVE and it's players. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
7091
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:33:00 -
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Maybe I'll send in some apps to carebear corps
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/485923_547207591965787_1339853475_n.jpg
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
Project Wildfire
242
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:44:00 -
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Kyra Quinn wrote:NightCrawler 85 wrote:How to find the corp that is right for you.From your posts it seems you have already tried most of the basics,but this link will help you when it comes to doing more of the background checks and will also give you some advice on how to talk to the recruiters, and alternate methods of finding a corp that suits your playstyle Good luck with the search! It's listed in the Q&A so I DID read it and it helped me a lot, thanks :)
Ohh im sorry 
Normally people dont check the Q&A so its old habbit to post it whenever the question about joining a corp comes up.
Im very glad it was of some help tho!
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
270
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:19:00 -
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Kyra Quinn wrote:
- decently sized corp, not too small and not too large, I found in other MMO's that having an active core of 20-25 people is kinda the max I'm looking for
- I'm from Europe so should be active in my time zone
These things are listed in the corp recruitment forums and usually also a corp/alliance website. As others have pointed out, you can expect somewhere between 1 in 4 and 1 in 3 of the total membership online at peak weekday, something like 1/2 on peak weekends. Most corps will explicitly schedule some things to get higher than that.
Quote:- I'm mostly focussing on exploration for now but might have a peek at pvp at some point, I'm open to suggestions other than "mining" or "run missions", "we do everything" is something I don't fall for
- active corp with interacting members, who know what they're talking about, can help me get ahead and who appreciate an active and inquisitive but clueless newbie
Exploration's a pretty solo activity, so focus on looking for a small-scale pvp corp, as that's the one you need people for.
More specifically "mostly missions with some pvp" is probably your bag, avoid people that say they're mining corps but in all honestly high-sec corps that say "they do a bit of everything" will actually fit pretty well with just giving you people to chat with while you're off exploring on your own. Not sure why you're avoiding the primarily social corps, kinda sabotaging yourself there since you want to be low-commitment.
Quote:- mature without silliness and with good knowledge on the game
- no silly tax
Every corp has people that are good at the game and people that aren't, deal with it.
Additionally, taxes are necessary to maintain the things that give a corp purpose and unity in the first place (POSes, joint operations, ship replacements for trainees, and so on). So... get over yourself on that one, too. It's like 5-15% and only affects missions and NPC bounties, which you've said you don't prefer anyhow.
Summary: your problem is that your approach is entirely selfish and you have no intention of giving back to a corp. Why would a _good_ corp want you? Think about that and adjust your expectations accordingly. Not even being willing to pay the taxes and having a stick up your arse about others' knowledge when you're new yourself (i.e. expecting them to carry you) is pretty bloody anti-social, and that's how it's going to come off to recruiters as well. |
lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
31
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Posted - 2013.01.30 04:55:00 -
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Lost Greybeard wrote:Quote:- mature without silliness and with good knowledge on the game
- no silly tax
Every corp has people that are good at the game and people that aren't, deal with it. Additionally, taxes are necessary to maintain the things that give a corp purpose and unity in the first place (POSes, joint operations, ship replacements for trainees, and so on). So... get over yourself on that one, too. It's like 5-15% and only affects missions and NPC bounties, which you've said you don't prefer anyhow. Summary: your problem is that your approach is entirely selfish and you have no intention of giving back to a corp. Why would a _good_ corp want you? Think about that and adjust your expectations accordingly. Not even being willing to pay the taxes and having a stick up your arse about others' knowledge when you're new yourself (i.e. expecting them to carry you) is pretty bloody anti-social, and that's how it's going to come off to recruiters as well.
Dunno about you, but the hostility was a bit unneeded IMO.
My understanding of 'silly taxes' was something like 20-50% taxes for nothing. Your summary was unnecessarily hostile considering the OP's attitude and responses throughout the thread.
Oh snap good troll, got me to bite. |
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