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CCP Dolan C C P C C P Alliance 254	Posted - 2013.01.31 10:31:00 - [31] - Quote Roc Wieler wrote: To compare me to Bolton III (CCP Dolan) is downright insulting. I can hold my liquor, thank you very much. I can hold plenty of liquor. At least one drink in each hand, and I can probably squeeze in two or three more glasses in-between. CCP Dolan \| Community Representative Twitter: @CCPDolan Gooby pls

Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 798	Posted - 2013.01.31 11:02:00 - [32] - Quote First CCP comment on a CSM candidate's thread. I call bias. You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 202	Posted - 2013.01.31 16:02:00 - [33] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: You know that should you be a successful candidate, one of your responsibilities may involve flying to Iceland to sit around and talk about Eve incessantly, right? Absolutely, but it wouldn't be so much about "look at my killboard" and general forum-type whining, but rather discussion of the systems and improvements possible within Eve, which excites me terribly. Never start a fight you can win.
ry ry Snuff Box 179	Posted - 2013.01.31 18:55:00 - [34] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: First CCP comment on a CSM candidate's thread. I call bias. You say that like Dolan's endorsement is a good thing!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 7507	Posted - 2013.01.31 18:56:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Dolan wrote: Roc Wieler wrote: To compare me to Bolton III (CCP Dolan) is downright insulting. I can hold my liquor, thank you very much. I can hold plenty of liquor. At least one drink in each hand, and I can probably squeeze in two or three more glasses in-between. Pft 'hand' amateur call me when you can drink a glass of beer with no hands at all Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread
ry ry Snuff Box 179	Posted - 2013.01.31 19:42:00 - [36] - Quote Roc Wieler wrote: ry ry wrote: Roc. dude. Your relentless self-promotion should be a means to an end - not an election platform. Thank you for posting. I will politely disagree. My self-promotion is actually my platform. I'm not making any empty campaign promises to players. I'm not trying to mislead players. I'm selling me, my value, my virtues, my voice. Regardless of any situation I would run into as a CSM member it is because of confidence in me that players should know the issue would be dealt with fairly, with deep analysis, and no shenanigans. I'm genuinely considering voting for you - I get the joke, and you annoy two step which in itself is nearly enough, but your whole platform confuses me a bit. Are we voting for Marcus or Roc here? Are you going to be a passive member of the CSM or do you have anything to bring to the table beyond mediating blue-sky scenario solution synergy moving forwards? Most importantly, what is the likelyhood of mbolt being kidnapped and subjected to a degrading sexual assault?
Raleit The Knights of Cobalt Cobalt.. 18	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:25:00 - [37] - Quote Well i think that is great! what process did you have to go through to run for the CSM? How is your campaign doing? I like your idea's and you certainly have a great BIG PICTURE concept. Drive on! Raleit
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 203	Posted - 2013.02.01 14:07:00 - [38] - Quote ry ry wrote: Roc Wieler wrote: ry ry wrote: Roc. dude. Your relentless self-promotion should be a means to an end - not an election platform. Thank you for posting. I will politely disagree. My self-promotion is actually my platform. I'm not making any empty campaign promises to players. I'm not trying to mislead players. I'm selling me, my value, my virtues, my voice. Regardless of any situation I would run into as a CSM member it is because of confidence in me that players should know the issue would be dealt with fairly, with deep analysis, and no shenanigans. I'm genuinely considering voting for you - I get the joke, and you annoy two step which in itself is nearly enough, but your whole platform confuses me a bit. Are we voting for Marcus or Roc here? Are you going to be a passive member of the CSM or do you have anything to bring to the table beyond mediating blue-sky scenario solution synergy moving forwards? Most importantly, what is the likelyhood of mbolt being kidnapped and subjected to a degrading sexual assault? You're actually voting for both. The character of Roc reminds me to always be conscious of all that has come before within the history of New Eden and to make sure that any idea, no matter how big or small, integrates to the existing lore of the game. It has also been through my writings as Roc where I have found many things ingame lacking as well as remembering the moments that I enjoyed the most. I draw on all those character experiences, as well as my player experiences, to bring my own insights to the CSM. There really is no difference between me and any other veteran player. We've all experienced much and have our own views on things. The "unique" quality I bring, my platform of "no platform" is that I have no problem being heard, I can intelligently debate and resolve issues, and have always been a natural leader. For me, it's not about pushing an agenda or delivering pipe dreams to players - it's about making sure that every player feels they have honest and dependable representation at the CSM table. If you vote Roc, you can depend on that. Never start a fight you can win.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 203	Posted - 2013.02.01 14:14:00 - [39] - Quote Raleit wrote: Well i think that is great! what process did you have to go through to run for the CSM? How is your campaign doing? I like your idea's and you certainly have a great BIG PICTURE concept. Drive on! Raleit Thank you. To be honest, my campaign is doing about as well as it has in years past, which is to say not too good when looked at from purely a "securing a seat on the council" point of view. I've been advised, now and in the past, to play the game, to pick my stances on the hot topics, to cater myself to the players I think can vote me in, but that honestly is not what I have ever been about. I don't play partisan politics. My belief is that in a democratic environment everyone's voice is equal and valid and that it is the responsibility of each and every CSM candidate and member to consider the opinions of all. There is no room for pushing agendas and quite frankly, very limited power within the CSM to influence actual change. It does happen on occasion. My poor campaign results are often because players fall for this greatest scam. They chase the carrot instead of dissecting the CSM for what it really is and voting not for those that agree with their views and promise game changes but rather should vote for those that have demonstrated a commitment to the very community that enables the CSM to exist at all. Integrity, consistency, experience, education, passion, a proven drive to do whatever it takes to reach goals ... those are the kind of people we need in the CSM. I promise no carrot. I only promise consistent honesty and dedication to this community, to never back down from any challenge I am faced with, to arm myself with the voices of all capsuleers. For most, that's considered a "non-platform" and I am disregarded. Still, even if it is only my lone voice that continues, it is my own beliefs I have to be true to. Never start a fight you can win.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6531	Posted - 2013.02.01 18:02:00 - [40] - Quote Roc Wieler wrote: For me, it's not about pushing an agenda or delivering pipe dreams to players - it's about making sure that every player feels they have honest and dependable representation at the CSM table. You have a guy who enjoys ganking freighters and another guy who flies loaded freighters (and doesn't enjoy losing them, obviously) How can you say you represent both of them? ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8

Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 205	Posted - 2013.02.01 19:51:00 - [41] - Quote Andski wrote: Roc Wieler wrote: For me, it's not about pushing an agenda or delivering pipe dreams to players - it's about making sure that every player feels they have honest and dependable representation at the CSM table. You have a guy who enjoys ganking freighters and another guy who flies loaded freighters (and doesn't enjoy losing them, obviously) How can you say you represent both of them? I don't know why people get hung up on this concept. I represent both of them in the fact that my platform is about their voice being heard. Let me give you an example of how being narrow minded to my opinion doesn't benefit players. A guy enjoys ganking freighters and here are his reasons why it's good: A, B, C. I think ganking freighters is bad so am already prejudiced against his opinions and will probably not bring it up at the CSM table because it doesn't fit in with what I think is important in Eve. Essentially by doing this I am saying my opinion on our game is more important than yours. On the most fundamental level that is so wrong. So, here's how I would represent both, and more. A guy enjoys ganking freighters and here are his reasons why it's good: A, B, C. He's expressed his opinion with supporting thoughts and ideas in an intelligent way. I may have even corresponded with him directly as a CSM member to further explore his ideas. Another guy doesn't enjoy losing his loaded freighters and his reasons of A, B, C are equally good and well thought out and presented. I'm at the CSM table. The conversation of freighters comes up. Some CSM members are for. Some are against. In the ensuing conversation I now have the ability to talk to both sides of this particular argument thanks to the insights provided by the players who inevitably will always know more about a given topic than any single man can know about them all. This allows for discussions to happen that might not otherwise have occurred. By making sure every player opinion is heard on a given topic it allows for deeper insights to be gained and allows the CSM to make better and more well-informed decisions. That's why it's not about my opinion. As a CSM member I should serve the players. Never start a fight you can win.
Stokeley Steel Dust Heavy Industries 0	Posted - 2013.02.04 14:27:00 - [42] - Quote Hey Roc - I like your approach and my vote in the coming election will go to you!
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 206	Posted - 2013.02.05 03:10:00 - [43] - Quote Stokeley wrote: Hey Roc - I like your approach and my vote in the coming election will go to you! Much appreciated, pilot. Never start a fight you can win.
Xander Phoena Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement 35	Posted - 2013.02.11 11:11:00 - [44] - Quote I interviewed Roc as part of the CSM8 Election Interviews over at my blog and podcast Crossing Zebras. Well worth a listen. http://c-z.me/csm8rocwieler
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 206	Posted - 2013.02.11 14:22:00 - [45] - Quote Thanks for the opportunity, Xander. Was a brutal, to the point, straighforward interrogation. I enjoyed it immensely. Never start a fight you can win.
Cid Tazer The Green Cross Red Alliance 23	Posted - 2013.02.12 13:55:00 - [46] - Quote Just listened to the interview, very interesting and honest dude. Hope that you get onto CSM this time and that your honesty is heard on CSM.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 206	Posted - 2013.02.12 15:31:00 - [47] - Quote Cid Tazer wrote: Just listened to the interview, very interesting and honest dude. Hope that you get onto CSM this time and that your honesty is heard on CSM. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated. As for getting onto the CSM, all I can ask is that you spread the word to others you know. That's the only way. Never start a fight you can win.
Jack Carrigan Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order 806	Posted - 2013.02.15 17:18:00 - [48] - Quote You have my support, support of Order of the Shadow (Corp), and The Revenant Order (Alliance). Let's make this the year. Roc the Vote! "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives."
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 210	Posted - 2013.02.15 19:23:00 - [49] - Quote Jack Carrigan wrote: You have my support, support of Order of the Shadow (Corp), and The Revenant Order (Alliance). Let's make this the year. Roc the Vote! Your support is much appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to post. Never start a fight you can win.
Jack Carrigan Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order 806	Posted - 2013.02.15 22:34:00 - [50] - Quote Of course mate. I've voted every time I was able (couldn't vote the one year as I was deployed). "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives."

Endeavour Starfleet 843	Posted - 2013.02.27 19:47:00 - [51] - Quote Hello there! I would like to name several situations that I feel are detrimental to the game. Give a solution and ask you for your stance on both. I do need answers to all the situations for my vote(s) POS those three letters bring nightmares to just about anyone having the misfortune of having to operate one. The solution in the long term is obviously modular POS. Yet CCP seems to be backpedaling on implementing this despite the MANY benefits. What is your stance on the possibility of a near term bandage of a form of player POS that is only designed to be the equilivant of a Secure Container for ships until modular POS is ready? Overpowered passive cloaking. It is now to the point where people are now beyond AFK cloaking but running Twitch.tv streams of enemy stations and systems! Would you support balancing cloaking to punish those who go AFK (Eventually able to be scanned down for decloak) while maintaining the benefits to people actively cloaking (Remaining at their keyboard) Lack of Ring Mining. Again with the CCP backpedaling despite the many benefits for nullsec and other areas for the game. What is your stand on the crap that is moon mining? The silly push by some in the community to end or delay "Local" or any effective means for those in a nullsec system to determine if a hostile or unknown is in system in them. This obviously needs no solution but I want your thoughts. The horrible state of missions in hisec. The solution in my opinion is a complete rewrite to allow for a more incursion like approach that rewards those who want to train up logistic frigs and cruisers or be a specific role in a fleet. Also providing a way for newer players to experience group play in EVE. Incursion suckage. With the nerfs to Incursions fleets have slowed to a trickle and it was sad to see CCP willing to spend more development time nerfing entire expansions instead of doing what was right being making other aspects of EVE better. Modular POS and Ring mining need dev time sooner so I will admit this ought to be looked at later however I wanted to get your views on them and have this to be some context to the next aspect of Logi. Logi suckage. Logis do not have the tools to do their job. They need to be able to tell who is locked and taking damage and in large fleets the watchlist can't handle that leading to dependence on broadcasts that most of EVE seems to not know or refuse to use right. Look at any average HQ incursion fleet where people don't broadcast right stressing out logi or in fleet fights where following FCs orders makes it harder to broadcast properly. A solution is a logi only screen that is completely configurable to show who is taking the most DPS and who has the most locks in fleet. Logi Suckage #2 Reps don't get you on mails? Wut? Solution obviously is to have repping those in fleet land you on killmails generated from fleet.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1650	Posted - 2013.02.28 17:18:00 - [52] - Quote Roc Wieler wrote: So, here's how I would represent both, and more. A guy enjoys ganking freighters and here are his reasons why it's good: A, B, C. He's expressed his opinion with supporting thoughts and ideas in an intelligent way. I may have even corresponded with him directly as a CSM member to further explore his ideas. Another guy doesn't enjoy losing his loaded freighters and his reasons of A, B, C are equally good and well thought out and presented. I'm at the CSM table. The conversation of freighters comes up. Some CSM members are for. Some are against. In the ensuing conversation I now have the ability to talk to both sides of this particular argument thanks to the insights provided by the players who inevitably will always know more about a given topic than any single man can know about them all. Impartiality is a delusion, and like every other human being on planet earth, your perspective on which ideas are "good and well thought out and presented" will be influenced by the extent to which they fit with your preconceptions. Your candidacy thread has a good slogan but not much of a platform beyond vague generalities. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 213	Posted - 2013.03.01 21:06:00 - [53] - Quote Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Lots of questions... Thanks for not just asking me my opinion but for offering yours. I appreciate your views and will share my views with you: POS - There is always the dance of managing development cycles against player outcry/demand. It may very well be possible that CCP simply doesn't have the resources/cycles to do POSes up right at this time, though as has been demonstrated many times in the past, they will cave to public outcry, which I personally disagree with. "Bandaid" solutions rarely work and can often result in aggravating a situation instead of alleviating it. I am sure the current CSM has some interesting ideas on this subject as it has been around a long while and I would look forward to exploring those ideas as well as hearing more ideas from other players such as yourself. Should they be glorified containers? No, of course not. AFK Cloaking - I completely disagree with any mechanic that gives AFK players an advantage over playing characters. I also know the vast majority of players I talk to about these type of issues are in agreement with this sentiment. I am 100% in favour of balancing this game system, as well as others; not as a punishment to AFKers, as it really isn't, but to level the playing field once again. Moon Mining - I'll be honest here, never done it, never had access to it. Read about it. Talked with Corp/Alliance Directors about it. Sensitive issue. Those that have it don't want to let it go. Those that don't have it, want it and cry foul. I've not come to an informed enough opinion on it yet. What's yours? Local - I did speak hypothetically on local in this thread already as an example of how it's important to me not to make my opinions known but rather to stand on a platform of making sure player opinions are heard. To me that is far more important that my own singular ideas. I think there is a way local can be removed in certain situations that makes sense, but that is my singular opinion and should their be better ideas out there that make more sense, I would stand behind those. Not necessarily the majority idea ... the better idea. Incursions - Yeah, I enjoyed them originally. They were shiny. I also agree that systems shouldn't be nerfed instead of other systems being improved. Logi - I'm hoping that your ideas, and many others I have heard like it, are implemented during ship balancing. Killmails - On the one hand, I personally could care less about killmails. To me, it's ePeen. On the other hand, it exists as a game mechanic and should therefore function correctly. I think it's important to understand something about my campaign, as many of your questions are asking for direct stances on issues, most of them being game development related. CCP are aware of the issues you've presented. They are not ignorant of us. If these items aren't on their agenda, the CSM needs to decide how much of its efforts to use to get any/all of them on the agenda. Even then, there is no guaranteed success. I will not promise you that I will fix a single damn thing as that is beyond my, and the CSM's, control. I do promise to make your opinion heard at the CSM table. Thanks again for taking the time to post. Never start a fight you can win.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 213	Posted - 2013.03.01 21:09:00 - [54] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Impartiality is a delusion, and like every other human being on planet earth, your perspective on which ideas are "good and well thought out and presented" will be influenced by the extent to which they fit with your preconceptions. Your candidacy thread has a good slogan but not much of a platform beyond vague generalities. My personal experiences has shown you are partially correct. See what I did there? I have mentioned that I am currently serving a term as president on a Board of Directors for a condo corporation. In my two years serving I have only had to make one decision to break a tie vote. The rest of my efforts have been spent making sure that our Board sees things from angles they may not have considered, poking holes in everything they say, playing the devil's advocate to every idea. That is my specialty. At the end of it all, our Board has managed to come to decisions themselves save that one time I mentioned and in that instance, you may be right, I may have voted in favour of what I wanted. Of course, there is always the possibility that my will is so strong that my sphere of influence manipulated them into what I wanted without the need for me ever having to vote. If that's the case, wouldn't you want me on the CSM anyway? Seriously though, thanks for your post. I appreciate it. Never start a fight you can win.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 218	Posted - 2013.03.26 15:08:00 - [55] - Quote My candidacy is official. Now I need to secure a minimum of 200 endorsements. Please, take a moment and ENDORSE ME. Much appreciated, pilot. Never start a fight you can win.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 218	Posted - 2013.03.28 11:20:00 - [56] - Quote Thanks for your endorsements. Now onwards to victory. Never start a fight you can win.
Prince Kobol 683	Posted - 2013.03.28 12:14:00 - [57] - Quote Come on guys.. Vote for THE ROC !!!!
Lolmer Yahoo Inc Caffeine Nicotine and Hate 88	Posted - 2013.03.30 03:32:00 - [58] - Quote FYI, since Roc hasn't posted it here yet, from http://rocwieler.com/2013/03/27/csm-8-final-ballot/: Quote: Greetings, You have met the 200 vote endorsement thresh-hold in the CSM8 pre-election. You will be included in the full election ballot. Best Regards, CCP Dolan
Arydanika Amok. Goonswarm Federation 285	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:31:00 - [59] - Quote Congratulations reaching the qualifying number of endorsements and good luck on the final ballot. It's going to be a very interesting election this year and it's just getting started. Thank you for appearing on the second Voices from the Void CSM 8 candidate panel. It was a n insightful discussion and your participation is appreciated. Your current and future supporters can find the episode by going to this link. It was a pleasure to have you on the Voices podcast and I hope to have you back again soon. Good luck in the upcoming final election. Runner of Voices from the Void podcast, Eve Online Pod Pack & DJ on eve-radio.com Sundays at 1800.-á Organizer of the ATX Eve Online Meet. GÖÑ
Trebor Daehdoow Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 2802	Posted - 2013.04.01 15:53:00 - [60] - Quote Roc will be on my recommended ballot. As I said there, he'll either be a good CSM, or we'll make him RP a good CSM. Pre-Election has begun! Click to endorse Trebor for CSM8 * Candidate thread * CSM Blog



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