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Ryiah Thesa
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:26:00 -
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Ok the Interval thing didn't work for me, but the new beta drivers did. Get them here:
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_winxp_2k_32bit_81.87.html
Been playing since my last post without any crashes now.
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The greatest of joys, the deepest of sorrows.
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Troye
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:36:00 -
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Same prob! EVE boots me out randomly and somtimes my comp just turns itself off for no apparent reason. When I turn it back on again I dont even get an error repot or anything and this has only ever happened whilst playing EVE.
The realy worrying thing is that it seems to be getting worse...
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Ryiah Thesa
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Posted - 2005.11.09 06:26:00 -
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Did you try the drivers on the link I posted? They work fine for me for hours now.
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Duty is everything.
The greatest of joys, the deepest of sorrows.
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Tyler'Durdenskji
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Posted - 2005.11.09 14:22:00 -
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I noticed a line in the description of the drivers:
"Added support for VSync on Direct3D games when running NVIDIA SLI."
Just thinking that this could be the magic line, as previous attempts at fixing this have mainly all been centered around the V Sync thingymajigity
Thanks for the link, installing the new drivers now :)
P.S - Still no word on my petition at which I shouted at the [GM]'s for lack of support, 4 days and counting, seems they don't want to answer me back 
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Ryiah Thesa
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Posted - 2005.11.09 15:50:00 -
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I have been on the drivers since yesterday evening and not a single crash or bsod, one ctd though but that was most likely because of the deadmines.
Post if it works for you. 
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Duty is everything.
The greatest of joys, the deepest of sorrows.
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Invictus Sol
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:16:00 -
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Ok, so I replied in another topic with the same info. This time however, I went with the fps tweaks instead of the driver/bios/reboot 30X circus. (which is getting old)
Most importantly to me is the fact that im running a lower end system - and as of the 3 hour patch that happened last night, the game has become unplayable as you all have described. Previously - even after cold war patch, I could play with all settings on max - both in game and on my system. I could also watch a video and listen to itunes at the same time! I would of course get some FPS hits if I was flipping between browser windows and changing playlists. Hell, I could even run a torrent!
Then, last night - completely unplayable. My first thought was that I burned something out. But, checking my temps via a DigiDoc5 in my H20 system - all temps were around 15 degrees above ambient (perfectly normal). This must be fixed soon - this isnt just a driver related issue, there are too many different systems that are affected in the same way.
My system (stock numbers below are from Sandra - mostly overclocked otherwise), I have been playing at max quality and never crashed or lost significant framerates (without any fps tweaks) - id say its a good example of how bad this last patch was. Not to mention, I lost my SATA drive connectivity at the exact same time... I hope to god this is just a coincidence - my "raid" disk had all my backups and I cant get it back on line. Never heard of game messing with hard disk arrays. Anyone else have any crazy coincidences?
Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1800+
Speed : 1.24GHz
Model Number : 1800 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR1801 (estimated)
Mainboard
Bus(es) : AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
MP Support : No
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Award Software, Inc. ASUS A7V8X ACPI BIOS Revision 1015 Beta 003
System : System Manufacturer System Name
Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. A7V8X
Total Memory : 768MB DDR-SDRAM
Chipset
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc VT8377 Apollo KT400/A/600 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 108MHz (216MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 768MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 144MHz (288MHz data rate)
Video System
Monitor/Panel : Default Monitor
Adapter : RADEON 9500
Adapter : RADEON 9500 - Secondary
MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Standard Game Port
Device : Avance AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
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Corbuea
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Posted - 2005.11.10 16:58:00 -
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I have been following the threads on crashing and such for a while and would like to see if I can offer a bit of help to those having issues. I have noticed alot of people who have checked their temperatures while playing and posted them saying they are running high fifties to high sixties (celcius of course) and they seem to think this is ok. While you are not going to burn your hardware at these temperatures, hardware DOES begin to get unstable under heavy load when the temperature gets above about 55. Keep in mind that most high end graphics cards that are running stock heatsinks will get above the 55 mark under a heavy load, so this is one problem to consider for all you guys running the high end geforce cards, check to see they arent overheating. This problem is not related specifically to geforce cards, it seems to be a combination of amd64 proc boxes and/or geforce cards. I have a contact ive been working with to resolve his issues who is running an amd64 3500+ and an ati x850 xt, so it is not geforce specific. Obviously make sure all drivers are up to date (video, sound, chipset, all hardware bios) but also, for all of you running multiple sound cards, say one onboard and one modular, make sure you have drivers installed for both even if you do not use the onboard, because missing drivers can sometimes cause underlying problems in windows which will cause issues like this. Antivirus, and spyware are also obvious quick fixes to make sure you are clear of. Once all this is out of the way it gets a bit more complicated.
Many of the problems I have seen with this were solvable when investigating power fluxuations with hardware. Using some electronics tools (volt meters and such) I was able to trace down specific hardware devices in some of the computers we have had problems with that were having power surges due to underpowering during 100% load. Most of these computers were using lower end motherboards and/or power supplies. But as opposed to replacing these components, we were able to solve the problem in the bios. By increasing the voltage to the components a little bit at a time (just like overclocking, as not to burn the components) until the system becomes unstable, then reset the cmos and set it at the highest stable setting. This solved the problems on 9 out of 10 of the systems, which leads me to believe that the problem lies with unstable system setups due to either inexperienced home built computers, or unstable hardware (this was the case with several prebuilt computers, hewlett packard and compaq to be specific). When this failed to work on one of our test machines I started looking further into this problem. Windows does not recognize 64 bit processors as 64 bit, but rather as 32 bit (this is due to the processors compatibility emulator for operating systems that do not support 64 bit. I started looking more thoroughly into this and if you do some google searching you will be able to find an amd64 driver that was released by amd for amd64 processors. This was what fixed our one bogus problem computer. For those of you running sli I would recommend nvidias beta drivers, as they have better vsync support. Also disable nview as it has caused problems with games in the past. For ati users, stick with the catalyst control panel as opposed to the control center. Control center is to unstable to be accurate and is designed more to be pretty and user friendly. Also do not force vsync, set it to application preference. The only thing you should be forcing in eve is antiailasing, and only if your hardware has the horsepower to run it smoothly.
Hope this helps, I have had my system stable with absolutely no problems in any game or software since building it, just takes some tweaking and time. Good luck ;)
Amd64 3000+ OC 2.0 - 2.5
Asus K8N Motherboard
2x Mushkin 512 DDR OC Ram
ATI X700 Pro OC to X800XL Platinum Specs
Creative SB Extigy
2x SATA 80GB
All stock heatsinks replaced and all voltage settings maxed in bios.
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Invictus Sol
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Posted - 2005.11.11 02:27:00 -
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Ok, I so after having jumped through all the hoops of making sure software and drivers were not the problem - b/c they worked previously before the patch, and continue to run perfectly with games that demand more system resources than eve does. The problem with eve seems to be extremely hardware specific. I run a relatively low end system, but since im a geek and built my own system to be "bullet proof", this "low-end" computer crunches what hp and dell put out as high end. So - isolating the issue further as temps have been ruled out (note my post above) I use a water cooled system with water blocks on my proc, north bridge, and gpu. I monitor the temps externally via digidoc and show no problems with overheating.
In another post, I mentioned that I found a temporary fix by simply changing my ram timings in the bios. Yes, this is all it took to fix it. I set my system back to exactly the same as it was pre-fubar-patch-o-death, and changed the ram timing. WTF is all I have to say about a game that requires bios adjustments to get past the login screen... Ive used this system to beta test horribly written games that would run circles around what we are dealing with now.
-Inv
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:21:00 -
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81.87 beta drivers. Still haven't crashed in a few hours of play. Looking good.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.13 15:27:00 -
[100]
Went back into empire and it started again. *sigh*
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Corbuea
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Posted - 2005.11.15 19:19:00 -
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We solved the crashing issue on the one bogus computer that was having issues. It actually makes me feel quite dumb for not noticing the problem, and this doesnt apply to most people as not many people are running water cooling. But it turns out that the cpu block had a hairline ***** in it that was causing it to drip once every couple of hours on the video card, and the video card lost a capacitor due to this. I know this probably doesnt help most of you, but those of you with high end systems, check all your lines ;).
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Aism
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Posted - 2005.12.22 04:10:00 -
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I have this problem too...
I had it prior to a Geforce 4400 upgrade to a Geforce 6600GT. After the upgrade I still had it, which prompted me to preform a format and reinstall of Windows XP.... That has not helped =(
Come on Dev's stop ignoring this and fix it...
Aism
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Snipes Silent
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Posted - 2005.12.22 04:51:00 -
[103]
same problem 
I had no probs before red moon.
Specs:
Intel 3,06 GHz P4
GeForce FX5900XT 128MB
1024MB Ram
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Aism
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Posted - 2005.12.22 04:58:00 -
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Edited by: Aism on 22/12/2005 04:58:04
Could a Moderator please stickly this thread as I had to go to Page 10 to bump this back up to the top... And it does not seem to be a unique and isolated case...
Aism
PS No luck on the Interval One option, OR the beta drivers...
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Snipes Silent
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Posted - 2005.12.22 12:16:00 -
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I also tried older drivers, beta drivers (for my sound and graphics card), I disabled HT at my bios, I killed all other tasks which are not used from Win XP or Eve.
I still get lag in warp, docking and gate jumping actions.
and the most time in fighting action :(
And now I had a lag and a crash at the moment I wanna dock and now I canŠt play cause I stuck in the loading screan to enter the station.
Patition is underway...
grrr
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Snipes Silent
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Posted - 2005.12.22 21:25:00 -
[106]
Okay,
I completely deleted all eve files from my hardisk and run a regestry cleaner.
I downloaded the new eve client and now it works fine ,)
DirectX 9C
Newest NVidia Driver
Win XP SP2
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Stribog
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Posted - 2005.12.23 10:43:00 -
[107]
 Originally by: Snipes Silent
Okay,
I completely deleted all eve files from my hardisk and run a regestry cleaner.
I downloaded the new eve client and now it works fine ,)
DirectX 9C
Newest NVidia Driver
Win XP SP2
Im not that good at working the regestry, could you write a few quick steps on how to delete the eve-files? I want to try this.
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Virusuk
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Posted - 2005.12.23 16:36:00 -
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Yep having same prob tho not as much as some of u guys. I was fine before RMR. Ohther than that i think the new patch is very nice indeed, Well done to CCP 
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Jack Fuller
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Posted - 2005.12.25 07:36:00 -
[109]
Hey, I'm new to this game and had the same problem as you guys... I couldnt even get past the character selection screen without my comp totally freezing... I have solved it by , this will hurt..., downclocking my vid card. Somehow the game asked to much of my nvidia 6600 GT apparantly. The lower clockrates are not so bad as it seems since the card is good enough anyways to not have any framerate issues. If you dont know how to regulate your vid card clock settings, search for a program called "coolbits" (for nvidia cards that is).
I know this is a far from ideal solution but it worked for me, game didnt crash at all since I downclocked and better a slightly slower game then no game =)
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Stribog
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Posted - 2005.12.26 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Fuller
Hey, I'm new to this game and had the same problem as you guys... I couldnt even get past the character selection screen without my comp totally freezing... I have solved it by , this will hurt..., downclocking my vid card. Somehow the game asked to much of my nvidia 6600 GT apparantly. The lower clockrates are not so bad as it seems since the card is good enough anyways to not have any framerate issues. If you dont know how to regulate your vid card clock settings, search for a program called "coolbits" (for nvidia cards that is).
I know this is a far from ideal solution but it worked for me, game didnt crash at all since I downclocked and better a slightly slower game then no game =)
Downclocked it how much?
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Diancecht
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:14:00 -
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there seems to be several different problems going on in this thread, which all probably have different solutions.
i will explain my problems with rmr in a hope that it may help someone else.
i have a xp2600, 1g ram, nvidia fx5900zt 128m, via chipset/agp, sound blaster live sound card.
i run folding under most programs and keep an eye on processor usage through its log. no problems with other graphics intensive games etc.
i found rmr was dropping me to the desktop very frequently after i installed it. cold war did not show this problem. i had a look at what rmr was doing and found a memory leak. small but enough to cause problems. what i also found was that the folding logs were showing no activity other than file storage. this means that eve never allowed folding to have processor time, which it had done pre rmr.
i then windowed eve and looked at folding and memory. folding WAS getting processor time at the start of warping and sometimes sitting in station. the empty logs though show another process taking that time, not the folding engine. no other services were taking that time.
i estimate an increase in processor usage of around 30% and there is a memory hole that causes the usage of higher memory that normally doesnt get used at all. my guess is an increase in memory usage of 30% or so too. now the video cards are being used so much more with frame rates going down another 30% which i believe could be resolved easily. it seems to be linked with the memory and lag issues for some STUPID reason. hehe, maybe we have only 60% of the game installed!
and this is where the problems seem to come from. power, ram, video cards going mad because of overuse etc. now having said that, i dont have a problem with the power supply or ram (both replaced). i solved my problem by removing 1 stick of ram and left it at 512m, now i just have to close the client and startup again whenever i see it running off the hard drive, and that isnt too often.
of course all this without a mention of server side problems, which must be absolutely killing the new ram drive!, i mean those things wouldnt give you the lovely audible "hard drives are out of control" warning!, no, they will just BAKE to death.
hmm i picture an extra air con sitting next to the drive, hehe
i ask only one question-
why does it take so long to stack a group of selected items?
NOT client, NOT player numbers, what the hell is a ram drive doing for so long?
this may be part of the answer- it took longer to stack groups in cold war inside a ships cargo hold, than it does in rmr. in rmr it takes long to stack items in stations.??
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Stribog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 10:02:00 -
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Up we go!
.. anyone else notice that the reboots seems to happen alot less in 0.0 then 0.5 -> 1.0?
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Buckmaw
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Posted - 2005.12.30 11:52:00 -
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Check your 3.3V levels!!
Mine are dropping low enough to cause the game to lock up.
It only happens with this game. Can play ww2ol, which is a system hog all day long no problems.
I have a 550w powersupply that is only 5 months old.
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Stribog
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Buckmaw
Check your 3.3V levels!!
Mine are dropping low enough to cause the game to lock up.
It only happens with this game. Can play ww2ol, which is a system hog all day long no problems.
I have a 550w powersupply that is only 5 months old.
How do i do that?
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Buckmaw
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:45:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Stribog
Originally by: Buckmaw
Check your 3.3V levels!!
Mine are dropping low enough to cause the game to lock up.
It only happens with this game. Can play ww2ol, which is a system hog all day long no problems.
I have a 550w powersupply that is only 5 months old.
How do i do that?
I have a Asus motherboard and it comes with a utility that monitors the motherboard for voltage and temp. I am sure there are some generic ones out there.
My 3.3v will drop below 10% down to 2.9ish volts. This causes problems. I have turned down the graphics and switched from 8x to 4x hoping to reduce the power the card is drawing. My PS is a cheap one but its rated at 550w and is less than 6 months old.
Let me go fool with the bios some more.
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Steve Southern
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:55:00 -
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Hi all
I have been reading all of this problem with many people giving great ideas on how to fix it. But it seems that everyone has ignored the simple fact that this problem has ocurred after the RMR patch. Like many others I was playing for a while before the new patch and never had any real problems. After the patch it is a different matter though. I have to admit I am not computer literate and I am struggling to understand why the excellent system I have (which I have been told by a friend in the know ) is now struggling so much with the game.
NUA
Never Underestimate Anything/Anyone
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Olleybear
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Posted - 2005.12.30 22:19:00 -
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Same problems for me, though it mostly happens when I eneter a battle, it will still happen on occasion when I am just in space but happens alot more often when I enter a battle. Did a fresh OS install last night, went into a mission afterwards and my PC rebooted 4 times in 10 minutes.
I have a Zalaman 120mm fan on my cpu with arctic silver thermal paste to get the heat away from processor. So heats not the issue. With the OS reinstall, thats not the issue. Have only eve installed on the freshly installed OS, dont even have a virus scanner running( no worries, protected by a linux based firewall ) so other programs aren't interferring.
This started happening and progressivly getting worse since RMR. That right there, is one common thread in all of this. Think someone else stated AMD64's were another common thread.
My system setup is:
AMD64 3700+ on a SOYO K8USA mb
1 gig corsair ram
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 with drivers dated 12/11/2005
DX 9.0C
SATA
C-Media AC97 Audio
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Galdoth
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Posted - 2005.12.30 23:45:00 -
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err guys.. Devs have stated there is a patch coming shortly to address problems with RMR..
cheers...
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Buckmaw
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Posted - 2005.12.31 03:49:00 -
[119]
Well..........
I removed my BFG FX 5700 OC and installed my older FX 5200 and all is good with the world. Something in EVE is causing the video card to draw way too much power.
The game works fine with the FX 5200. Dont know what the problem is... please fix it...
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Stribog
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Posted - 2005.12.31 10:13:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Buckmaw
Well..........
I removed my BFG FX 5700 OC and installed my older FX 5200 and all is good with the world. Something in EVE is causing the video card to draw way too much power.
The game works fine with the FX 5200. Dont know what the problem is... please fix it...
Yeah, game ran fine with my GF4 ti4200, but not with my 7800GT.
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