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Jack Cullard
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:36:00 -
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I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere. |

Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
1354
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:42:00 -
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Just BTW...
There is a TUT mission that gets your ship destroyed.
Good Troll attempt. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Schmata Bastanold
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
578
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:48:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
Aww, 2 days old and already in full emo mode. Isn't that cute...
1/10
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Nakito Kobara
Yamagata Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:49:00 -
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Played 10 years and never been ganked in high sec. Well done! |

Tiberius Murderhorne
CONTRATTO IMPERIAL LEGI0N
67
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:55:00 -
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new player assistance fail...... and yet no one has suggested he should join goons or test?? Disclaimer : My posting does not always reflect my Corps views or my allience views.... Infact sometimes it does not even reflect my views! |

Agent Akari
Just Popped Out For Milk
100
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Posted - 2013.02.01 09:13:00 -
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I have to admit the learning curve for new players is hard. Which would mostly turn down the casual players. |

Schmata Bastanold
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
581
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Posted - 2013.02.01 09:42:00 -
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Agent Akari wrote:I have to admit the learning curve for new players is hard. Which would mostly turn down the casual players.
I was new player a year ago and it wasn't so hard. And I am casual player now, it still isn't hard.
Also: your boobies, me likey  I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Whitehound
553
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Posted - 2013.02.01 09:46:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere. You definitely picked the wrong game to escape bullshit! 
This is EVE, this is PvP.
Do not play a PvP game when you are not ready for the challenge. There is no bus waiting for you to pick you up.
EVE is a cold and harsh place, and this is not just a theme. SCAM CAT - Titan Jump - I was there - Goon Dog |

Renzo Ruderi
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.02.01 09:51:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
No bugs happened, looks like the usual "didn't read the tutorial text" situation that happens roughly 300 times a day in Rookie Chat. |

Meritsa
Avioni
0
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Posted - 2013.02.01 09:57:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
All of those "bugs" are most likely due to user errors. I can notice from your, excuse me, a bit sloppy writing that you haven't been reading the tutorial mission briefings quite well. Also like pointed before, there is a self destruct mission as part of tutorials.
Also prior to starting any new game, you should look around and get some basic information and not just go in and do whatever... Well I mean when were playing real games not some "Press W to move" "Great Job!" games... Back in 90's most of NES games showed the mechanics of the game by creating first few levels to be quite easy and force players to use most of the different mechanics ingame, this applies for Eve tutorials as well.
You most likely went ahead and opened someones can in 1.0 space and got flagged and "Boom goes the dynamite". This is a harsh world, not some funny teletappy galaxy with rainbows and hugs. This game has a harsh learning curve, because it's meant to toughen all players for what future holds for them. Same was for Ultima Online too, the players were destroyed if they tried to leave towns (Back in Felucca days <3) and ghosts were running all over and bodies piled up, in Eve we have some hi-sec space to fly around and have protection of "guards" from random attacks, oh and the Condor WILL attack if you really do hostile actions in hi-sec.
We are in no mean masochist, well some might, but in general. We just think, reaaaal careful before doing actions, because every action has a counter action and so on...
Use your brain matter and push forward! It's not meant to be simple and easy game, your flying spaceships god dammit! |

Ravnik
Choke-Hold
4580
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Posted - 2013.02.01 10:07:00 -
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Maybe you should have done some research on the game before you started playing. Reading the forums would have given you a good indication as to what eve is all about. Then, you might have not wasted your time  The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |

Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
56
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Posted - 2013.02.01 10:11:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
1. When I started to play EVE a year ago I had a bug in one of the starting missions, too - I petitioned it and it got solved in a short time. Did you try to petition it?
2. Please describe how your main ship got destroyed, so we can see if it's really a bug or not - as mentioned already by others, there is a mission where your ship gets destroyed - it's an attempt to try to teach you that you shouldn't hold any ship too valuable, because you will lose it in the end.
3. When you really have been ganked in high security without Concord then this would be a serious bug. Please describe the circumstances more in detail, so we can see if it was a bug - propably it wasn't, and you fell for some trick.
EVE is a great game to "escape bullshit", but you should be aware which kind of "bullshit" you can escape here and which you can't. If you want to escape from a boring rl day, EVE is good, because it can be highly entertaining. If you want to escape a very busy rl day and just do something where you don't need much attention, EVE is not good, because a small mistake can mean that you lose a lot, maybe even all your assets. In this case other games propably would be more suited.
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Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:28:00 -
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Your story reminds me of the time when I was a kid, and I played my uncle at checkers and lost. So, I played him again, and lost again. I was pissed, and it seemed like he had absolutely no mercy. After that, I never played checkers again. (I made that last part up.)
You walked into a Goomba and lost your flower power. So, you're just gonna quit? |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
368
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:33:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
Blapping people in 1.0 is a big no no with CCP, so petition it.
As for bugs, report them.
As for missions you can't complete, report them.
What do you want CCP to do if your first port of call with an issue is to shout on the forums?
It's like me saying "why doesn't chribba deny that he had relations with Jaspet ore" and then raging before he has a chance to reply. |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
92
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:54:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:It's like me saying "why doesn't chribba deny that he had relations with Jaspet ore" and then raging before he has a chance to reply.
Chribba with an exotic ore - say it isn't so  |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
311
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:56:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
Name me a single video game that isn't a waste of time and gets you places. Video games are BS by their definition, to bad this particular BS didn't suit you and you had bad luck starting out. |

Meritsa
Avioni
0
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:06:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Jack Cullard wrote:this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere. Name me a single video game that isn't a waste of time and gets you places.  Video games are BS by their definition, to bad this particular BS didn't suit you and you had bad luck starting out.
Oh boy I am going to start a good spam war for this... Here we go...
So you're saying video games is complete waste of time and won't take you anywhere?
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Check... aaand... |

Itis Zhellin
22
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:28:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere. Dude, my first advice in EVE was, stay da fuk away from the official forums until you train Trolling IV, recomeneded would be Advanced Trolling III wich will take you a good couple of months in EVE. So get out of here quick as possible and head over EVE UNI and start reading and make friends. Get into a player corp, that will also help you a lot at the beginning. The npc corps also require high skills in trolling.
On the same note, it took more me than 2 years to start playing EVE. Twice a year I tried a trial but never managed to resist more than few hours in game. I never understood how come a normal person can play such a horrible game and also pay for it. Now I can tell you that the biggest waste of time is to play anything else than EVE. Playing a themepark crap is really a huge waste of time and is nothing more than just get some fat dudes wallet happy while you get the false impression of having fun.
Say.. you been ganked in hi sec, eh? Next time you will be ganked, don't forget to type GF in local. Doing so, weird as it sounds, may get you more friends than enemies. Then dock up and think about what you did wrong and also try to learn something about it, so this will never happen again. Learn to fit your ship, learn from the gankers and their strategy. All this will make your stronger. And oh.. dont drop tear bags, nevah! Tears are the most precious fuel in EVE, so you may wanna keep that anger and tears in your private cargo.
Welcome to EVE! \o/ |

Dave Stark
1781
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:34:00 -
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tip: this isn't azeroth. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
891
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:34:00 -
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Itis Zhellin wrote:[quote=Jack Cullard]Now I can tell you that the biggest waste of time is to play anything else than EVE. Playing a themepark crap is really a huge waste of time and is nothing more than just get some fat dudes wallet happy while you get the false impression of having fun.
Umm... what spaceship MMORPG are you playing? LOL.
Eve is a themepark (check) Most people complain about being bored (check) We get fat people rich at CCP (check)
Welcome to the wonderful world of gaming!
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
837
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:41:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Also: your boobies, me likey 
You're like the worst example of people on the internet. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:01:00 -
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Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere.
I feel you. Totally.
The game's broken currently and this community (as you can already see) is literally worse than WoWs.
Just do what I'm doing and use this as a filler until Elder Scrolls comes out...better yet, wait a few days and let Company of Heroes 2 be the filler.
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Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
152
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:04:00 -
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Awwww did they finally kick you from Dreddit Maxxie?
Still, you people actually play EVE?
I just **** around on the forums and set my skill queues, and PI sometimes Stupid forum posts become my MS-Paint art, send me some stupid posts if you see them |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
428
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:18:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:Blapping people in 1.0 is a big no no with CCP, so petition it.
Giving people completely wrong information helps no-one. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Verfanny
Seamap Solutions
9
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:20:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Your story reminds me of the time when I was a kid, and I played my uncle at checkers and lost. So, I played him again, and lost again. I was pissed, and it seemed like he had absolutely no mercy. After that, I never played checkers again. (I made that last part up.) You walked into a Goomba and lost your flower power. So, you're just gonna quit?
Is this an indirect way to say that the OP was deflowered by the game? |

Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:32:00 -
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Itis Zhellin wrote:Get into a player corp, that will also help you a lot at the beginning. The npc corps also require high skills in trolling.
Guess what! If he had asked in the SWA channel, we would have told him not to do whatever stupid thing it was that he did, although, for all we know, he's mad about losing an Ibis in the tutorial mission.
Jack Cullard, check the State War Academy channel. There's a bunch of us in there, and we know how to play EVE. (Mostly, but yeah, some of us are idiots, puppy kickers, 'n such.)
Verfanny wrote:Is this an indirect way to say that the OP was deflowered by the game?
That's brilliant! It is, now.
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front New Creation Collective
156
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:47:00 -
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admiral root wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Blapping people in 1.0 is a big no no with CCP, so petition it. Giving people completely wrong information helps no-one.
Agreed. CCP both allows and encourages wholesale blappage in 1.0 and everywhere else, except for the starter systems where new players enter the game. (Google them)
Also, there is a difference between "no CONCORD response" and "CONCORD responded after my ship was wrecked." One is a bug of some sort that you could petition, the other is fair play. Remember, Eve is a PvP game, if you are not actively trying to ruin somebody's day then you are doing it wrong.  Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3467
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:12:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Itis Zhellin wrote:[quote=Jack Cullard]Now I can tell you that the biggest waste of time is to play anything else than EVE. Playing a themepark crap is really a huge waste of time and is nothing more than just get some fat dudes wallet happy while you get the false impression of having fun. Umm... what spaceship MMORPG are you playing? LOL. Eve is a themepark (check) Most people complain about being bored (check) We get fat people rich at CCP (check) Welcome to the wonderful world of gaming!

The game description "a theme partk" usually means linear game play that leads you by the nose. EvE is anything but that. NPC combat is somewhat linear, but in no way is that the main focus of the game... only a means to an end.
Most people say there are large portions of the game play where you need to plan, and often game play is not simply spoon feeding you non-stop meaningless action. Which leads us right back to the point that EvE is not a theme park. If you want nearly constant action you can create that yourself. RvB is only one example.
I certainly hope the staff and management at CCP get fat, rich, and happy creating and running EvE. I can think of few entertainment companies that deserve it more. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Jonah Gravenstein
The Burning Lotus
5248
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:55:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Jack Cullard wrote:I apologize to players for the rant, but... First I encounter bugs preventing me from completing a tutorial, then a bug which caused my main ship to be destroyed, then I get ganked in 1.0 security space with no Concord response. I play video games to escape bullshit, not have bullshit forced down my throat and then some. Of course I realize that this is what was intended, and some people enjoy the masochism, but IMO this is wasting enormous amounts of my time by getting me nowhere. I feel you. Totally. The game's broken currently and this community (as you can already see) is literally worse than WoWs. Just do what I'm doing and use this as a filler until Elder Scrolls comes out...better yet, wait a few days and let Company of Heroes 2 be the filler.
We already know that you dislike Eve and about 90% of it's player base, do yourself (and everybody else) a favour and leave already.
To the OP: As others have said tutorial bugs/glitches are dealt with very quickly by CCP, but they can't deal with it without being informed about it.
What were the circumstances of you being ganked? were you ganked by another player?, did you take something from a yellow can (you shouldn't be able to do that with the safety on)? or did you lose a ship to NPCs (which is actually part of 2 tutorials)?
If you can elaborate on exactly what happened you'll find that most people will be quite happy to point out where you went wrong. If it was another player that ganked you, contact them, explain that you're new and ask them what you did that allowed them to kill you without Concord intervention.
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's a goonspiracy. |

cratais
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.02.01 16:02:00 -
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My guesses ats to why concord didn't respond someone came into where you was missioning can flipped you without you noticeing you then became flashie red to them and they shot you.... Or they came in stole from one of your wrecks became flashie red to you and not paying attention you believe the players ship is a npc ship and shoot at him giving him the right to blow you up without concord intervention .
The second scenario can be avoided easily by haveing you overview setup right and you can learn how to this on the eve uni wiki page theres also videos on youtube that show how to do it aswell. |
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