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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.11 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Braaage on 11/07/2005 22:39:14
I'd call it a FAQ but half of this you prolly wont think to ask  .
Firstly a big thanx to CCP for assisting me and making this possible on Sisi.
I'm in the middle of creating a step by step walkthrough for my site in my sig below, but I'm away now for 3 days so it wont get done until later in the week. So have a snippet of what I've learnt but take into account that some of the things listed below are classed as possible bugs and will most likely be changed in the near future.
Here goes
Q. Where can I build my Outpost?
A. Only at the warp in point of a planet and only in a sector which you have sovereignty over.
Q. Can I get sovereignty over any sector?
A. No, there are 2 things to look at here, firstly the map stars can be coloured by sovereignty, however, for some strange reason it's not colouring all the claimed systems. The only sure way to tell is to go to the system and if it's not claimed then the sovereign will not be listed in the top left corner under the sector name.
Q. How do I claim sovereignty?
A. Already been covered, you need to contruct and keep powered at least 1 POS. Only 1 POS is required to gain sovereignty if no one else has a POS in the sector. It also requires a downtime to gain sovereignty. Oh and only Alliances can claim sovereignty.
Q. What do I need to build an Outpost?
1* freighter
1 manufacturer with the Outpost Construction Level 1 Skill
1 platform BPO
Approx 30 billion isk
A lot of haulers
Important bits
You carry the finished platform in a freighter (no other ship can carry the platform) once you launch it at this present time you cannot scoop it back up again, freighters can't scoop remember. So make sure you don't do what I did and launch it in the middle of space nowhere near anything and unable to move, pick it up or build it.
At the moment you can anchor the Outpost anywhere not near to an object, but you can only build it in orbit of a planet (at warp in point). So don't drop it anywhere it HAS to be in a planets orbit.
When u launch it for corp the first thing to do and you MUST do is to right click it and set a password. If you don't set a password ANYONE from ANY corp or alliance can access the storage and remove items from it.
Once you have put in all the resources and clicked build it requires another downtime before you get your Outpost.
Lastly you cannot put the resources in the Outpost using a Freighter, only ordinary haulers can.
That's enough for now, the rest plus a good idea what to do will come later in the week on my site.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.07.11 22:57:00 -
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Can I build more than one in a system?
No, because CCP is annoying.  
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.07.11 23:28:00 -
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How much of and which minerals does the platform need to be filled with to initiate construction?
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Gafton
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Posted - 2005.07.12 18:29:00 -
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The following is for a minmatar outpost. These are the things the platform needs to start building an outpost:
Tritanium 387,522,911
Pyerite 32,293,575
Mexallon 6,055,045
Isogen 1,211,009
Nocxium 252,293
Zydrine 54,062
Megacyte 11,826
You also need around 265million in trade goods. Since you already have a freigher, moving them wont be a problem.
Plutonium1,844
Enriched Uranium3,511
Carbon5,587
Oxygen25,468
Silicon5,489
Hydrogen Batteries23,574
Electronic Parts19,871
Coolant12,489
Mechanical Parts16,876
Synthetic Oil17,874
Super Conductors897
Silicate Glass8,846
Miniture Electronics7,465
Construction Blocks155,649
Robotics12,499
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Gilbert Drillerson
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Posted - 2005.07.12 18:47:00 -
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Im guessing that when you state this: "Lastly you cannot put the resources in the Outpost using a Freighter, only ordinary haulers can.", you mean that freighters cant put stuff in the outpost platform ?... im seriousely hoping that freighters can dock at an outpost ?
That leads to this question : Can freighters unload at a POS corporate hangar array ?
If they can it would make it possible to offload all the mins/trade goods in the system where the outpost platform is, and then use normal haulers from there to the outpost building platform.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.07.12 18:58:00 -
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Perhaps bring a freighter to haul it to the station, and let multiple itty 5's move it into the station?
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Drofier Ilmatti
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Posted - 2005.07.12 20:44:00 -
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Perhaps you gotta move it all to the platform and blow up the freighter  |
Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson
Im guessing that when you state this: "Lastly you cannot put the resources in the Outpost using a Freighter, only ordinary haulers can.", you mean that freighters cant put stuff in the outpost platform ?... im seriousely hoping that freighters can dock at an outpost ?
That leads to this question : Can freighters unload at a POS corporate hangar array ?
If they can it would make it possible to offload all the mins/trade goods in the system where the outpost platform is, and then use normal haulers from there to the outpost building platform.
Atm you can launch POS modules from a freighter but you can't access any of the storages like the control tower and hangar. Dunno if that's gonna change though.
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Drofier Ilmatti
Perhaps you gotta move it all to the platform and blow up the freighter
The platform I've been playing with requires over (well over) 1 mill m3 shifting to it. Blow the freighter up and your only gonna get 27500m3 in the leftover container at most 
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz
Perhaps bring a freighter to haul it to the station, and let multiple itty 5's move it into the station?
Yep atm that's the way to do it. Not sure if they are gonna change that or not.
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Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2005.07.13 18:22:00 -
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or lets say in the system you are making th eoutpst in i assume there would be at least 3 pos's in you would mine like hell in that system, refine at the pos's and move the min's to the outpost in the same system.
thats very badly worded but it makes more sense that way to me..
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.14 10:55:00 -
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Yeh for the ore part of it that would be most logical
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.14 11:41:00 -
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more important question. Can you build an outpost in the same system as a PCS?
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.16 16:30:00 -
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It's added to space tutorials for those that want a look.
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Ronin Woman
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Posted - 2005.07.18 13:51:00 -
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Sorry, but I have to ask this.
In simple terms, related to usage- what is the difference between a Player Owned Station & an Outpost?
To word it differently. Considering the HUGE investment in personal time & game resources to create an Outpost, what is the advantage of having one when you already have a POS? |
Baldigan Joackim
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:29:00 -
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gafton, in you'r info i think you have forgive a things .. station construction part, station office center ...
up to 22B and can't be build or i'm wrong ???
according to this image :
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3074/outpostreqs6ix.jpg
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Paddy Murphy
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Posted - 2005.07.18 16:24:00 -
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Outposts are not POS's. A POS (or starbase) is useful for moon mining, consuming ice, and refining or refitting in a pinch. An outpost is a conquerable station and it stays there even if all the POS's you have in system go away.
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.18 18:05:00 -
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Between POSs and Outposts each has advantages/disadvantages
POS (advantages)
It's mobile and can be moved
You make Tech II minerals in a POS reactor (the only place where this can be done)
You mine moon minerals from a POS
A POS has defenses
Outpost (advantages)
It's permanent once erected (as it currently stands)
It's indestructable (for now)
You can dock at it just like a proper station
You can manufacture, research and recycle at them
You can have an office based at one
You can charge rent for services (and docking) at one
POS (disadvantages)
You have to continually fuel it
You can't dock at it
If you claim sovereignty it shows on the global map so everyone else knows there's a POS in that sector (and maybe an Outpost)
Outpost (disadvantages)
It costs billions to put up
You need a freighter to put it up
It has no defenses (as it currently stands)
When they become conquerable it will have to be defended by players
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2005.07.18 19:06:00 -
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Very useful, stickied. 
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2005.07.19 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Zinjan on 19/07/2005 20:16:43
Originally by: Braaage
When they become conquerable it will have to be defended by players
As I understand who ever haves sector sovereignty owns the outpost, not possible to conquer the actual outpost.
Sector, is this just system sovereignty or constellation? If A get more POSĘs up then outpost holder B in sector, A would gain control of the outpost(s)?
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.07.22 18:23:00 -
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A couple of questions;
1. Can an outpost be destroyed while it is 'building'?
2. Has anyone built an outpost on TQ yet?
3. Does the market work in the stations apart from Gallente?
Thanks.
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.07.23 23:06:00 -
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"Lastly you cannot put the resources in the Outpost using a Freighter, only ordinary haulers can."
I'd like some clarification on that. Does that mean you can't dock with a freighter in an outpost or (as I believe) that you can't haul the stuff needed to build the outpost with a freighter bar the POS parts that you can anchor.
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Tekran
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:30:00 -
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think the term Outpost was being used in place of Outpost Construction Platform there. the freighter cant unload mins or commodities/units directly into the "giant can" that will become the station. because that would make too much sense..? so the freighter going to be useless to the construction efforts after popping out the Platform?
side note: Outpost Platform used as super mega secure can? just drop it in a nice belt and get mining? (would be an insane use of it, of course, but whats keeping it from happening outside of common sense?)
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ticondrius on 24/07/2005 17:50:24
Anyone got a list of mins required to build the platform itself?
Item database is missing the page:
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/10257.asp
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Gafton
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:37:00 -
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Baldigan Joackim, i left out the construction components to build the platform. The materials i listed is what is needs to be delivered to the platform to build the outpost. The station components to build the platform will require around 22 billion. The station component types and quantities will vary depending on race type, but 22bil is a general figure.
Ticondrius, see this link: Minmatar Platform Station Components
The platforms require various station components that have to be purchased from the npc market. As far as I know there are no bpos for the components so prices should remain consistant.
If theres an outpost built then whoever claims sovernty will claim the outpost. They cant be destroyed so they're like player constructed conq stations. I believe that tower size does not matter when claiming sovernty. So you could setup a bunch of small towers to take sovernty. However you have to keep them running :)
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.26 13:27:00 -
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Quote:
side note: Outpost Platform used as super mega secure can? just drop it in a nice belt and get mining? (would be an insane use of it, of course, but whats keeping it from happening outside of common sense?)
20-25 Billion ISK can that you can't scoop back up.... If they want to use it for mining into then I guess that's there loss. Oh and I tried anchoring it in an ore field and at 100km away it wouldn't let me.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.26 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Larno
Edited by: Larno on 23/07/2005 12:28:43
A couple of questions;
1. Can an outpost be destroyed while it is 'building'?
2. Has anyone built an outpost on TQ yet?
3. Does the market work in the stations apart from Gallente?
Thanks.
EDIT: A few more;
4. Does an outpost show up on the right-click menu?
5. Does an outpost show up on the map under the show stations option?
Someone answer these questions please.
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.07.27 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Larno
Edited by: Larno on 23/07/2005 12:28:43
A couple of questions;
4. Does an outpost show up on the right-click menu?
5. Does an outpost show up on the map under the show stations option?
4. Yes
5. Yes
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ManOfHonor
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: ManOfHonor on 01/08/2005 17:46:57
Quote:
3. Does the market work in the stations apart from Gallente?
market works in ALL stations
btw where is the outpost on sisi? i wanna take a look at it
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:50:00 -
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Does the outpost have defenses?
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