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Ball Crusher	Posted - 2005.07.12 08:33:00 - [1] I was speaking a to a friend of mine tonight in team speak and it just struck a nerve. I see all these people bidding billions on a item while most corps do not have a billion combined. I do not udnerstand it. It seems that this game is only played around mission runners who are able to get the bpos and then sell the items for tons more than they are worth. Take the cap recharger 2 for instance. I used to pay 2 mill a piece for them in yulai and would buy 20 to 100 at a time. It has gotton insane. I do not understand how this game can be so lop sided. The PvPe corps end up with a huge crank in the backdoor if you know what I mean on the whole deal. We simply spend our time camping gates protecting our space doing alittle bit of npc hunting to clean up sec status for the occasional slip of the trigger. The miners get screwed now due to the low return on their work. I remember when mega sold for 20k plus and it meant something to have 20k of it in a hanger. Now days you either have to run missions and get the almighty bpo or your just going to be extremely frsutrated in this game. Well, i personally enjoy shooting people and just that I get no thrill from shooting a npc that is now by the way extremely retarded to even try with missle skills being crap and all other skills that I trained for a year and a half gone to the crapper as well. I am very irritated with what is going on as of late and will consider my options as far as if I want to continue this game. I fear the worst for EvE as most people share the same concerns as I do and feel the same. I just looked at the market and a ship that costs 60 million to build sells for 180 on the market wtf is that about other than greedy *****s who have all the supply and just want to get more isk to ebay off.
Andrue	Posted - 2005.07.12 08:35:00 - [2] Ain't it a sod when your [return] key is broke. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
Avon	Posted - 2005.07.12 08:35:00 - [3] Poor in presentation, poor in isk; as my English tutor never said. ______________________________________________ Pay or pray..er..prey..yeah, pray you aren't prey. Er, just pay.
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.07.12 08:38:00 - [4] What? ~Sobe Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss Combat Pilot and looking for a corp? Check AGSYN out here
Sicori Malaki	Posted - 2005.07.12 08:41:00 - [5] ... less than 1000 people in eve have 1B in their wallets. only few mission runners are rich, or have become rich doing mission, and those who have; have spent alot of time to optimize their fit and their strategy in doing missions not to mention spend a ****load of money on their ships. 0.0 NPC'ers who farm the belts can make same if not more than mission runners could. and those who are bidding billions on BPO's are most likely existing T2 producers trying to get a monopoly on the market. The Miners dont get screwed, suck veldspar in 1.0 and sell the trit for 3-4isk a piece (remember when you could only sell trit for 1 isk a piece?). Missiles are fine if you train the new skills and think a little. and what ship are you talking about ??, haven't seen a single ship thats far from the building cost. ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.
hired goon	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Avon Poor in presentation, poor in isk; as my English tutor never said. I don't understand then, I should be rich! :( I think it would be good to introduce an extension to market-pvp, where by you can trace goods. That way people could track down the evil capcharger 2 bpo owners, and wardec them or something. I like the economy-pvp model in Eve, but I do think it's a bit to indirect with it's relation to space-pvp. The only effect one has on the other is how much people want a certain uber thing. It would be good if the industrial side really got involved with star-combat, with corps hiring mercs to harass the trade lines of others in dirty warfare that changes market prices. ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
hired goon	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:04:00 - [7] Originally by: hired goon Originally by: Avon Poor in presentation, poor in isk; as my English tutor never said. I don't understand then, I should be rich! :( I think it would be good to introduce an extension to market-pvp, where by you can trace goods. That way people could track down the evil capcharger 2 bpo owners, and wardec them or something. I like the economy-pvp model in Eve, but I do think it's a bit to indirect with it's relation too space-pvp. The only effect one has on the other is how much people want a certain uber thing. It would be good if the industrial side really got involved with star-combat, with corps hiring mercs to harass the trade lines of others in dirty warfare that changes market prices. ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
Jonkai	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:07:00 - [8] nowonderihaventgotanymoney:(
Sirkill	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:14:00 - [9] Originally by: hired goon Originally by: Avon Poor in presentation, poor in isk; as my English tutor never said. I don't understand then, I should be rich! :( He never said good presentation = lots of isk....
Grainsalt	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:17:00 - [10] Edited by: Grainsalt on 12/07/2005 09:18:12 MY EYES!!!!!!! Actaully in all seriousness I havent done level 4's for months... I am not complaining about the amount of ISK that can be made..
Ball Crusher	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:20:00 - [11] How does the way it iswritten affect the substance of it ?> In a game that may have 10k people online at a time I would venture to say only 6 to 6 are not alt characters. I always run two or three accounts at the same time as do others in my corp and pretty much every other corp int he game. Now then you say only 1k people have a billion isk in the game is not correct I would venture to say that it would be closer to 2500. Now then thats half of the population and pretty much none of the pvpers unless they got lucky and hit the right mark while he was moving it to his mansion in the hills. The ship i am talking about is a transport ship cost 60 million to make and people are selling for double that. Anyway it is after 4 a.m. so if my presentation is less than to be desired I have an excuse.
Avon	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:24:00 - [12] Originally by: Ball Crusher Now then you say only 1k people have a billion isk in the game is not correct I would venture to say that it would be closer to 2500. Oh, the Devs are lying in order to make you look stupid? No need, tbh. ______________________________________________ Pay or pray..er..prey..yeah, pray you aren't prey. Er, just pay.
Grainsalt	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:31:00 - [13] So let me get this straight... Anyone who makes lots of isk in the game MUST be selling it off on ebay????? WTH? Thats just a dumb statement. As for stuff going for over the odds prices? If you dont want it then dont buy it, its all supply and demand, more competition and the prices go down.
Mangold	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:32:00 - [14] Originally by: Ball Crusher How does the way it iswritten affect the substance of it ?> As it is a bore to read. I tried to read your post but failed. No flame intended.
Moghydin	Posted - 2005.07.12 09:49:00 - [15] Why there's constant complains about mission-runners being too wealthy. High-end mission-running was not more profitable than high-end manufacturing or mining-barge mining. People who have regular access to low sec. complexes make much more profit than lvl 4 mission-runners. The only problem I see is that mission-running allowed relatively new guys to fund some cool toys early in the game instead of mining veldspar in 1.0 for months or slaving for a mega-corp.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2005.07.12 10:07:00 - [16] Originally by: Ball Crusher How does the way it iswritten affect the substance of it ? If you're incapable of writing, then you're incapable of writing. So your argument can't be worth reading. _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
TheJay	Posted - 2005.07.12 10:08:00 - [17] Edited by: TheJay on 12/07/2005 10:08:30 Originally by: Ball Crusher Now then you say only 1k people have a billion isk in the game is not correct I would venture to say that it would be closer to 2500. Now then thats half of the population and pretty much none of the pvpers unless they got lucky and hit the right mark while he was moving it to his mansion in the hills. 2500 = half the population of EVE?
NTRabbit	Posted - 2005.07.12 10:26:00 - [18] DigitalCommunist is both a pvp'er and rolling in an ungodly amount of wealth; perhaps ask him how he acquired his many billions. -------- irc.coldfront.com - #eve-online - Join for the people, stay for the midget wrestling
aeti	Posted - 2005.07.12 10:28:00 - [19] Originally by: NTRabbit DigitalCommunist is both a pvp'er and rolling in an ungodly amount of wealth; perhaps ask him how he acquired his many billions. hax
Sanaen Eydanwadh	Posted - 2005.07.12 10:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Ball Crusher In a game that may have 10k people online at a time I would venture to say only 6 to 6 are not alt characters. I always run two or three accounts at the same time as do others in my corp and pretty much every other corp int he game. ok little to do with the topic but this is going to upset me seriously. Either I'm a retard (ahem... I'll suppose I'm not, just for the sake of the argument), or there is some sort of a phantasm in these forums lately about alts and multiple accounts. You CAN play without running three accounts at a time, you CAN EVEN play normally without using any bloody ALT !! Some people don't know what to do with their money and feel like they have to spend it on 2d/ 3d accounts, ok, good to them - I'm just tired to read that it's a "must be", and I can tell you most of my mates don't use any alts, and feel very well... (BTW have a good night )
Roshan longshot	Posted - 2005.07.12 11:01:00 - [21] I dont know about that. I can fill a jet can an hour (45 min). been doing veld one hour a day for 8 days. If I was to sell that ore at 2.5 I would make 1.85 million an hour. I am not a die hard miner, just useing up the BPCs I have. Most missions, take less then an hour and the good paying ones (level three) take about 2 hours for slightly over 3 million payout. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box and from this site.
Miri Tirzan	Posted - 2005.07.12 17:08:00 - [22] Originally by: Roshan longshot I dont know about that. I can fill a jet can an hour (45 min). been doing veld one hour a day for 8 days. If I was to sell that ore at 2.5 I would make 1.85 million an hour. I am not a die hard miner, just useing up the BPCs I have. Most missions, take less then an hour and the good paying ones (level three) take about 2 hours for slightly over 3 million payout. Well, your not a very good miner either. I do 2+ jet cans per hour mining (with the hauling) with maxed mining skills and a large ore barge. Makes about the same as missions before the patch but was more boring. Unless your picking up every single can, then level 3 missions take 10-15 minutes per mission. So I am not sure what your basing your numbers on. svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."

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