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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.06 05:27:00 -
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Can a Cerb spit out high enough DOT?
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Cary Grant
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Posted - 2005.08.06 11:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Dura'Lorth
i think if you realy need a counter would be to use a Cerb. As missiles do not use cap, your gona be screwed pretty bad
Ain't NO missile boat gonna break my Sacrilege, not any 1 on 1 anyways. Other Sacrilege pilots please correct me if i am wrong. And I agree with Hir0, and even then it comes down to SP if i am up against an Ishtar or Zealot pilot.
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Na'Axin
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Posted - 2005.08.06 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Na''Axin on 06/08/2005 11:52:06
well raven setup for gank MIGHT break it's tank but a cerberus, no ffing way
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.08.06 12:04:00 -
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Well, i had a single sacrilege vs vagabond fight. Agreed 1v1, which i won by a slight margin. We landed 15k from eachother, the Vaga approached me and i approached him, webbed him and started nossing while taking pretty heavy fire. He was armor tanked btw. I was at about 30-40% armor and he at 20% shield when all of a sudden i stopped taking damage. He died shortly after, didnt have an explosive hardner if i recall correctly.
But yea, it was VERY close. Choice of damage type etc can make the difference.
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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.08.06 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Rexy on 06/08/2005 13:05:47
projectile guns still need cap. if nossed dry you can still get some shots of but it'll be way less if you have to keep activating those guns manually.
i wonder why people armor tank such a ship though, so many low slots are wasted on what can only be called a mediocre tank(bar vs lasers).
edit: done some extensive testing with a gankvaga vs sacrelidge. it doesnt stand a chance. altough going for high resist (85% accross the board) and one repper works better then using 2 reppers and poorer resists. with the higher resist you actually get to cycle the repper 
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.08.06 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: deathfighter
ok i went ahead and did some math:
a vaga with 5 180 II or similar has a acuracy falloff of 14 km and optimal of 1.6km with phased plasma. u can fit with 5 gyro II and a 10mm ab + 20k scrambler + painter.
now vagabond can do (180mm II) 5 guns X 4.3 x 20(phased plasma) / 1.1 (rof) = 390.91 dps
I am sure that 220 II and 425 II have much higher dps but taking the worst in consideration.
correct me if the math is wrong plz.
In a few moments Weirda will come with calculations WHY the 425AC is not the highest damging cruiser-sized AC.
PS: in comparing the 3 size classes of the med AC's take into consideration how much time you must spending in reloads, specially in the 425mm AC. i'm no math guy, but i'm pretty damn sure that the 220mm AC has a higher DOT than the 425, wich suffer of a too small clip size.
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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.08.06 13:39:00 -
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the Dot is pretty even taken into account the reloading time. but 220's rarely have to reload before the fight is over. making them better then 425's.if 220's have to reload the dot's about even.
425's might be better with a better ammo clip indeed. but the damage difference between 220/425's still to small to even bother fitting them. they track poorer, and are a lot harder to fit.
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
Lintaka
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Posted - 2005.08.06 14:16:00 -
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Well iv read that all the HAC's have a spersific perpose...
So would the Sacralige be the anti HAC ship.. The HAC killer?
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.08.06 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lintaka
Well iv read that all the HAC's have a spersific perpose...
So would the Sacralige be the anti HAC ship.. The HAC killer?
no, super-heavy tackler
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.08.06 15:06:00 -
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the ishtar is a good option to beat sac's.
can out nost it and now with t2 drones as serious dammag potential.
wel still having 5lows and 5 meds for locking down and tanking.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.08.06 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Weirda on 06/08/2005 15:45:18
Originally by: Dylan
with a good pilot a vagabond could win, if ur using 650mm II and get outta nos range and just warp distrupt him you will be fine... just hit till he dies or get out if u cant break his tank, its all range...
this is very true. but you don't need 650s to do it. at 15km (outside of his nos range - and suckrelidge don't deal much damage) - you could be dealing far more falloff damage from 220s (falloff bonus on vaga is very helpful...) 
likely he would still just tank you unless you had 5x damage mod - since you wouldn't be getting the best hits in falloff, but it is very easy to stay out of sac nos range and still within disruptor range with something as agile as a vagabond. 
Originally by: Grimpack
In a few moments Weirda will come with calculations WHY the 425AC is not the highest damging cruiser-sized AC.
no math. vulcan is just cooler!!
tbh though 425s just aren't worth the extra grid for their poor (2-4%) boost over 220... especially the flexibility that fitting 5x220mm give you... 
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Cary Grant
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Posted - 2005.08.06 17:16:00 -
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Na'Axin, that's a damned fine siggy you got there M8!
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