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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:41:00 -
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would you sell copys of the bp's and how much?
i.e.
1 run amarr freighter
x run cargo (the exact amount needed to build)
x run propulsion(the exact amount needed to build)
x run armour(the exact amount needed to build)
x run parts(the exact amount needed to build)
would save your mins and still make sone cash out of it.
(only looking for info atm)
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fabiusbile
Director of R&D
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:42:00 -
[32]
Crikey! Mari Y'Tuk, and here was me thinking you were just this little guy that purchased a few blueprints from us at one time :)
How wrong was I !?
Fre bump for the obelisk btw - fantastic ship.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:11:00 -
[33]
hmm nother bump, for you free advice btw, close this acution and start one 2-3 days b4 it rolls of the line, cause this is gonna be gone from the first page in 4 hours or so.
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Dionon Nailo
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:34:00 -
[34]
Hola!
I've been watching for indications of bpc costs, as the copy times are brutal. My initial guestimate of what a sensible selling price for obelisk and needed component runs for obelisk would be 400M. But really, if you need the freighter in empire, or you can move it to where you want it yourself, I strongly suggest paying isk. The work related to gathering 120M trit or whatever it is, and building it, is something you should pay for.
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.07.13 14:04:00 -
[35]
Then, again, NOT trying to make a 1 bil profit on a first ship simply because it is first and NOT looking like a total ******* would be an option, no?
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.07.13 20:19:00 -
[36]
friendly bump, BTW im looking to purchase a amarrian freighter contact me in game if you can sell me such said ship.
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Lanu
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Posted - 2005.07.13 20:30:00 -
[37]
It seems like I was wrong thinking alot of people in eve could pay 1.5b+.. seems there is very low intrest in actually buying a freighter.
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.07.13 20:31:00 -
[38]
Perhaps people aren't that stupid after all 
Well done on trying to make the most of your product btw 
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Defender ofCHAOS
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Posted - 2005.07.13 20:44:00 -
[39]
you need 1 bil worth of minerals.. thats a big task to do.. so i believe its not a bad price
also big investment into the bpo's that wont gets it mony back very soon
and if you look at buildcost - sellprice of other new ships then its dirty cheap in %%% wise atleast 
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Studi
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Posted - 2005.07.14 15:16:00 -
[40]
Because of the high demand we announce production from two more Obelisk BPO's. Also the number of used Capital BPO's has been significantly increased. So we keep the Obelisk rolling out of our factories every 4 days. Amarr and Caldari Freighters will drop out every 12 days.
So if you need a reliable supplier for Gallente, Amarr and Caldari freighters in the future, don't hesitate to contact us.
These ships are available for order within our online store in 2-3 weeks, when prices are stable enough. In the meantime please listen to our auctions here on the official forum.
If you want to keep up to date, here you can find us: http://www.omega-enterprises.com
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Studi
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Posted - 2005.07.15 05:34:00 -
[41]
We have no valid bid's atm.
Ending time has been changed from 20:00 EVT to 18:00 EVT, to bring this auction closer to the completion of the freighter's production process. This was a request of several customers. Community seems to be on tenterhooks :)
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Studi
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Posted - 2005.07.16 18:02:00 -
[42]
dayly bump!
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SweatySack
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Posted - 2005.07.16 19:54:00 -
[43]
To anyone saying it cost to much...keep in mind they needed 112 million trit in one place to build it. So shut up about the build time, cost of it and only post if you are going to bid on it.
I will have my own in a few weeks so no need to buy one. Good job btw...I know how much of a pain these things are.
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Somatic Neuron
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Posted - 2005.07.16 20:34:00 -
[44]
For those interested, the exact cost, in minerals for Material Level 0 (Components and Freighter), for one Obelisk, is:
Tri: 111,625,138
Pye: 14,791,172
Mex: 5,507,326
Iso: 798,630
Noc: 235,319
Zyd: 36,877
Meg: 13,082
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Studi
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Posted - 2005.07.17 17:48:00 -
[45]
No valid bids atm and we keep rolling on 
7 DAYS TO GO!
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Funnymaker
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Posted - 2005.07.17 21:42:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Somatic Neuron
Tri: 111,625,138
Pye: 14,791,172
Mex: 5,507,326
Iso: 798,630
Noc: 235,319
Zyd: 36,877
Meg: 13,082
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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.07.17 22:05:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Katjaa
Omega enterprises has delivered a top job by beating every other sales house and they ALL NOW IT.
Sorry, I don't intend to be mean or rude hijack the thread but since you also sell t2 ships I am entitled to say
"MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
I'm done
Consider it a bump
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Vivus Mors
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Posted - 2005.07.17 22:47:00 -
[48]
well, it appears that even the ôI must have one nowö crowd is small and has restrained enthusiasm for the Freighters.
More over, with their production cost now widely accessible, (even I have made a spreadsheet of freighters and DN's) many arenÆt overly keen on spending well over 2 times the build cost (nearly three times) on just the opening bid.
To truly auction something, it would be much more reasonable to start, at say a billion (i.e. you already have bids over that but not at your desired 2 bil mark). Now, as people bid up higher it may reach 2 bil, but donÆt open with that as itÆs quite off putting to start at what most consider the extreme limit.
The problem is that while a freighter will be a neat toy to have, itÆs not exactly the newest shiny super weapon in the game, and in fact its use is practically surgically limited to a tiniest sliver of game functions which basically only it can perform and outside of that itÆs either unnecessary or even incapable in alternative roles.
One person already said/bid/offered 1.5 bil, and thatÆs almost double the cost of material, which for any ship isnÆt exactly bad, and for a ship that costs as much as a half dozen class 2 battleships to build, thatÆs an enormous sum of money to profit by.
The fervor for a freighter is there, but even among those that want them the temperature isnÆt exactly a rolling boil. Temper your auction to the market youÆre trying to attract.
I assure you that you will make much more money being known for reasonably priced freighters than the most expensively priced freighters.
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DeODokktor
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Posted - 2005.07.17 23:35:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Somatic Neuron
For those interested, the exact cost, in minerals for Material Level 0 (Components and Freighter), for one Obelisk, is:
Tri: 111,625,138
Pye: 14,791,172
Mex: 5,507,326
Iso: 798,630
Noc: 235,319
Zyd: 36,877
Meg: 13,082
My numbers come out different than that..
me:0 prod eff 5 builder..
Tr: 112,077,704
Py: 14,900,641
Mx: 5,548,972
Is: 805,513
Nx: 237,582
Zy: 37,279
Mg: 13,406
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.17 23:47:00 -
[50]
I imagine most serious people are bidding ingame.
2bn seems a reasonable price at this juncture.
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arjun
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Posted - 2005.07.18 04:59:00 -
[51]
thanx vivus mors sharing your mathematical non skill with us.
build cost is about:
340 mio for tritanium
112 mio for pyerite
110 mio for mexallon
120 mio for isogen
84 mio for nocxium
148 mio for zydrine
56 mio for megacyde
970 mio - 1 bill isk material cost.(prices are rising)
i dont see, where this is one third of 2 bill.
not included:
manhours spent with hauling,
12 day factory slot rent for the ship and the components,
interest on the capital they invested in the bpo and not in tech 2 bpo (which give better profitmargin)
not the least: profit they want to make on their investment and used up playtime.
i believe 2 billion is a reasonable price for this ship, considering, that the 4 freighters of that other corp which start popping out on 23. juli, already sold for 2.2 bill per piece.
we consider getting one of the ships for our spreading pos business. bids will flow in on the last day/hours.
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Vaaliant
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Posted - 2005.07.18 06:22:00 -
[52]
meh..wat dee hell :)...2 Bil
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Studi
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Posted - 2005.07.18 09:33:00 -
[53]
Thx, for the first official valid bid on an Obelisk Freighter in EVE history :)
Highest bid so far: Vaaliant, 2bil
6 days to go!
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Vivus Mors
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Posted - 2005.07.18 09:36:00 -
[54]
Originally by: arjun
thanx vivus mors sharing your mathematical non skill with us.
build cost is about:
340 mio for tritanium
112 mio for pyerite
110 mio for mexallon
120 mio for isogen
84 mio for nocxium
148 mio for zydrine
56 mio for megacyde
970 mio - 1 bill isk material cost.(prices are rising)
i dont see, where this is one third of 2 bill.
not included:
manhours spent with hauling,
12 day factory slot rent for the ship and the components,
interest on the capital they invested in the bpo and not in tech 2 bpo (which give better profitmargin)
not the least: profit they want to make on their investment and used up playtime.
i believe 2 billion is a reasonable price for this ship, considering, that the 4 freighters of that other corp which start popping out on 23. juli, already sold for 2.2 bill per piece.
we consider getting one of the ships for our spreading pos business. bids will flow in on the last day/hours.
LOL excuse ME?!?
now don't presume to come in here telling me about "mathematical skill", for Christ's sake I made the spreadsheet many builders are referring to for their general Freighter and Dreadnought information.
no, 2 billion is not anywhere close to reasonable as an OPENING BID in case you missed it the first time I said that and was actually being POLITE unlike you.
so thank you for sharing your NON-mathematical skill with
"i believe 2 billion is a reasonable price for this ship"
well good for you, too bad the public at large here does not take that stance, and clearly agrees that opening the bidding at 2 billion is a bit insulting.
"that the 4 freighters of that other corp which start popping out on 23. juli, already sold for 2.2 bill per piece."
indeed, and there are multiple times as many examples of Freighters slated to be popping out at the same time that have already been sold from 1.5-1.8 billion for the HIGHEST BIDDER, these were not opening bids.
please don't come in here and expect to take the defense of obvious price hiking for an opening bid and then expect the world to fawn over it.
Now, if you're not too busy, please re-read my first post, realize you gave me a ration of your nonsense for absolutely nothing, and please do note who made the spread sheet which I am still receiving thanks for the simplicity and easily calculated figures for material and their cost.
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For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Deovina
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Posted - 2005.07.18 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Deovina on 18/07/2005 10:17:43
dear Vivus Mors (and the other posters) this is not a discussion thread. Even if you think the price is too high this is not the place.
I might answer your post in market discussion but defiantly not here.
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:06:00 -
[56]
would the kids arguing back and forth about the validity of a 2B starting bid go talk in their own playground thread.... and leave this thread to its auction... its part of the forum rules not to hijack threads for *****ing back and forth about the price...live with it..
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Greenpeace
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:23:00 -
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lol bloodsakers lol
people sold some for 1.4 bilions even 1.1 a aweek ago
2 bilions starting bid LOL
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NoNamium
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:42:00 -
[58]
Edited by: NoNamium on 18/07/2005 11:42:12
Originally by: Greenpeace
lol bloodsakers lol
people sold some for 1.4 bilions even 1.1 a aweek ago
2 bilions starting bid LOL
Ok, patch came out 5.July.
Build time is 1 week, 4 days, 20 hours.
Even if you had the components (not possible) when the patch came out you would only have been able to complete it yesterday.
I'm not even a friend of Studis, but nice try moron!
edit: oh, and try not using an alt next time
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Studi
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:52:00 -
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Friends, calm down, a price is always based on supply and demand. That is the principle of economic business. High demand means higher prices. OK, a few industrial corps and especialy some well known franchised sales platforms supply prices that lead into endless waiting times. This is simply not our business.
Last days I got an EVE mail that says: "Hey can you beat this: Obelisk for 1.35bil and 90days waiting time ?". I don't want to give a comment on that!
Omega Enterprises is known as one of the industrial power horses of EVE, delivering orders as fast as possible. From July 24th our factories start dropping freighters every 2-3 days. Last weeks we had giant investments to make this concept running and of course, we have to reach break even, to see our investment returning.
Please note that I don't want to criticise people, who want to wait a long time for an item. They have all my respect. But as a rule these people don't belong to our customers.
Now we have the first bid here on this thread, 6 days before end of auction. Please let us concentrate on this topic now.
The following Freighter auctions will be supplied by our new auction web platform, that handles functionality much better than this forum. This platform will be available for all registered customers soon for free. We keep you updated!
http://www.omega-enterprises.com/auctions
Best regards,
Studi
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tas Devil on 18/07/2005 11:52:59
Originally by: Greenpeace
lol bloodsakers lol
people sold some for 1.4 bilions even 1.1 a aweek ago
2 bilions starting bid LOL
You're an idiot... quite simply .... and most likely too poor to afford one with your main so reverting to cheap tactics to try and bring price down ... poor people... LOL
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