You can only do each career agent's arc once.

Nope.

That is exactly how I got my first Venture, after the patch.....redid the industry tutorial mission.

You can run them as many times as you like, now.

They even gave me a 'new' Mining skillbook......

Nope.

That is exactly how I got my first Venture, after the patch.....redid the industry tutorial mission.

You can run them as many times as you like, now.

They even gave me a 'new' Mining skillbook......

With the same career agent you did them with before? You've always been able to do each agent's arc once. There are (IIRC) 12 agents of each type, 3 for each race.

I don't agree with this either.
One is fine, but that's all you should get.

People who keep bringing up "collecting", or think that "no one" is buying them are wrong.

We should not be given free **** that can be sold on the market, period. This isn't WoW, it's EVE. If you byte something off the market it should be something actually built buy another player, or required you to use something someone else built, ie: ammo to shoot npc's for drops.

You are not limited to "only" three characters per account. You can delete characters.
CCP can lock the rookie ships to the ACCOUNT that way those people who want to collect them can do so.

There is no excuse for CCP to have a ship spawn just because you dock in a pod, and let you put that ship in the market.

so that is 3 ventures per faction (assuming neutral standings above -2) 12 for completed round trip, every 3 months.
on top of
12 attack frigates (3 racial frigates per faction)
12 haulers

that is 36 "free" ships per 3 months
plus ~90 rookie ships (1 per day assuming intentional acquisition)

must be OP right lets really screw over the DAY 1 starters

oh lets not forget the .5 standings gained from doing the missions (with no penalty's)

JUST NO BINDING IS NOT WELCOME IN EVE.

I have not said a single ******* thing that has a damn thing to do with "day 1" starters.

I'm going to assume you're one of the guys exploiting the free ships. Given you know exactly how many you can get.

Your post is just further example that FREE **** should be locked to the ACCOUNT of the person that got it, so that they can't be traded and sold.

Edit "Problem": I'm a builder.

I reallyt don't care how little or lot you can make, or even if it's a trivial issue.

It's an easily fixable one.

if it's on the market it should have taken player effort to get it there; primarilly through building. I already dislike NPC loot drops, the rookie ship doesn't need to be on the market either.

The idea that it allows you to aquire a bunch of cheap ships to go blow up is even worse then the irrelevant sum of isk arguement.


There's an ungodly number of these things being purchased on the market. That's just silly. Those should be player built ships being traded on the market, not magically generated ones.

Besides, if it's an insignificant amount of ISK, then no one should have a problem if CCP bound each rookie ship to your account when it's made. Right?

It just kind of dawned on me that you can sell a magic ship to another player, and people buy them. It was an "oh, hai, look what I can do" kind of a moment.

The rookie ship carries value on the market because it's used to do things.

Why are we given a free ship that carries value on the market?

Why are we not given a ship that can neither be traded nor sold; only trashed.
Even better, why am I given a ship in a station that I have other ships I'm capable of flying; or selling to get the ISK to buy a ship I can fly?

I do understand that people who lose a ship and can't buy another one need something to get back on their feet again.

I would think that it would make a lot more sense to require us to trash the ship if we don't wan it; not be able to transfer it to another player.