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Scar D'ovoli
Ordained Favor
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:06:00 -
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Orhan now has 1.1 Billion ISK bounty on his head. He lives in Hisoufad X - Moon 15 and runs corp Mining Missions in Uzigh on Tuesdays between 4PM-6PM Central Time. Have fun! Make some easy ISK. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:06:00 -
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What is it that he's flying that's worth 5.5b? Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Fabio Bittar
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:19:00 -
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I think the more interesting question is: "What did he do to you, Scar?"
Expecting some drama to follow. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.02.03 11:14:00 -
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Fabio Bittar wrote:I think the more interesting question is: "What did he do to you, Scar?"
Expecting some drama to follow.
The question is why don't I never get these nice bounties on me. I don't feel loved
My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Turgesson
Five-0
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Posted - 2013.02.03 13:52:00 -
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Could you explain the easy part?
You should re-title this thread:
How I lost 1.1bil by not understanding how bounties work. |
Scar D'ovoli
Ordained Favor
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Posted - 2013.02.03 20:36:00 -
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Turgesson wrote:Could you explain the easy part?
You should re-title this thread:
How I lost 1.1bil by not understanding how bounties work.
So what is it exactly that I don't understand? |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
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Posted - 2013.02.04 00:08:00 -
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Scar D'ovoli wrote:Turgesson wrote:Could you explain the easy part?
You should re-title this thread:
How I lost 1.1bil by not understanding how bounties work. So what is it exactly that I don't understand?
You get 20% of the value of their loss in bounty.
For example.
If I have a bounty of 500,000,000
and I am flying a ship, and you blow me up, and 1,000,000 worth of stuff was blown up in my ship.
You get 200,000 in bounty payout.
My bounty is now at 499,800,000 |
Scar D'ovoli
Ordained Favor
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Posted - 2013.02.04 03:19:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:Scar D'ovoli wrote:Turgesson wrote:Could you explain the easy part?
You should re-title this thread:
How I lost 1.1bil by not understanding how bounties work. So what is it exactly that I don't understand? You get 20% of the value of their loss in bounty. For example. If I have a bounty of 500,000,000 and I am flying a ship, and you blow me up, and 1,000,000 worth of stuff was blown up in my ship. You get 200,000 in bounty payout. My bounty is now at 499,800,000
Yep, I already understood that but, thanks for the explanation. |
Zoltan Lazar
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Posted - 2013.02.04 04:07:00 -
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The point is that the drops from suicide ganking someone have a standard deviation of value that is usually 100-200%+ more than 20% of the kill value. A bounty will almost never make a gank go from negative to positive expected value. You're much better off paying a merc to kill them, than to put a bounty on them. |
Scar D'ovoli
Ordained Favor
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Posted - 2013.02.04 05:03:00 -
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Zoltan Lazar wrote:The point is that the drops from suicide ganking someone have a standard deviation of value that is usually 100-200%+ more than 20% of the kill value. A bounty will almost never make a gank go from negative to positive expected value. You're much better off paying a merc to kill them, than to put a bounty on them.
Oh ok gotcha. Thanks for the heads up. |
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culo duro
Federal Enslavement
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Posted - 2013.02.04 07:36:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Fabio Bittar wrote:I think the more interesting question is: "What did he do to you, Scar?"
Expecting some drama to follow. The question is why don't I never get these nice bounties on me. I don't feel loved
I wonder that too sometimes... i can murder people but people all around me seem to get bountys thrown at them. |
StonerPhReaK
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
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Posted - 2013.02.04 15:05:00 -
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The hull cost of a ship plus what was exploded (modules/rigs/cargo) effect the bounty payout.
You get 20% of the total worth of everything that was destroyed.
Ship 100m Mods 100m Total 200m His bounty is 20m Explode his vessel You get 20m
Had his bounty been 40m you would have gotten 40m.
To score a 1b bounty you would need to kill him in a 5b ship. Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva |
Scar D'ovoli
Ordained Favor
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Posted - 2013.02.04 15:11:00 -
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StonerPhReaK wrote:The hull cost of a ship plus what was exploded (modules/rigs/cargo) effect the bounty payout.
You get 20% of the total worth of everything that was destroyed.
Ship 100m Mods 100m Total 200m His bounty is 20m Explode his vessel You get 20m
Had his bounty been 40m you would have gotten 40m.
To score a 1b bounty you would need to kill him in a 5b ship.
Or... The person gets smacked repeatedly until the bounty is back to 0 |
StonerPhReaK
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
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Posted - 2013.02.04 15:32:00 -
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Scar D'ovoli wrote:StonerPhReaK wrote:The hull cost of a ship plus what was exploded (modules/rigs/cargo) effect the bounty payout.
You get 20% of the total worth of everything that was destroyed.
Ship 100m Mods 100m Total 200m His bounty is 20m Explode his vessel You get 20m
Had his bounty been 40m you would have gotten 40m.
To score a 1b bounty you would need to kill him in a 5b ship. Or... The person gets smacked repeatedly until the bounty is back to 0
Or that. Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:53:00 -
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Scar D'ovoli wrote:StonerPhReaK wrote:The hull cost of a ship plus what was exploded (modules/rigs/cargo) effect the bounty payout.
You get 20% of the total worth of everything that was destroyed.
Ship 100m Mods 100m Total 200m His bounty is 20m Explode his vessel You get 20m
Had his bounty been 40m you would have gotten 40m.
To score a 1b bounty you would need to kill him in a 5b ship. Or... The person gets smacked repeatedly until the bounty is back to 0
not really...in high sec you have to suicide and take those losses. so:
Ship 100m (battleship?) Mods 100m (tech II crap for drops) Total 200m His bounty is 20m Explode his vessel (with upwards of 500mil in gank ships?) You get 20m (and loose your shirt in the process)
If he is in a 5+ billon dollar loot pinata then he's a good target for a gank without the bounty but at least your money will be a cherry on top?
If he's a miner or something then maybe you can milk him dry but you really did waste over a billion on that bounty. That amount of money could have bought some fancy mercs to actually do the job right.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:17:00 -
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1.1 bil would buy a LOT of catalyst/tornado ganks. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Kaivar Lancer
Bounty Hunter Confederation
245
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Posted - 2013.02.05 19:32:00 -
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The bounty system is ****. Half of EVE have bounties on their heads, but the system is so broken that no-one can be ****** collecting them. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.05 19:55:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:The bounty system is ****. Half of EVE have bounties on their heads, but the system is so broken that no-one can be ****** collecting them.
My bounty prevents me from playing EVE. It is a griefing mechanic and should be changed for those of us with positive sec status. Lestatra: Eve is now fully committed to pvp . |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
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Posted - 2013.02.05 20:17:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:The bounty system is ****. Half of EVE have bounties on their heads, but the system is so broken that no-one can be ****** collecting them.
+1
Bounties should create a triggerable kill-right for each 1b bounty IF the player ALSO has a negative security status. :)
i.e. Player A has a 1.5b bounty AND a sec status of -0.8: Anyone can trigger a kill right in hisec on him. If he grinds sec status above 0, the kill right cannot be activated until it falls below 0 again.
Make this even more compelling by having a 'Bounty Hunting Skill', that for each level trained reduces the threshold in which the killright can be triggered. i.e. If I have Bounty Hunting 5, I can trigger the killright at 100m, not 1b :)
Done; bounty hunting made into an actual EVE profession, in a way that ties into existing 'being a criminal has consequences' mechanic...who knew...
:) Killboard |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.02.05 20:53:00 -
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Show us on the doll where this bad man touched you. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.02.06 15:01:00 -
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StonerPhReaK wrote:The hull cost of a ship plus what was exploded (modules/rigs/cargo) effect the bounty payout.
You get 20% of the total worth of everything that was destroyed.
Ship 100m Mods 100m Total 200m His bounty is 20m Explode his vessel You get 20m
Had his bounty been 40m you would have gotten 40m.
To score a 1b bounty you would need to kill him in a 5b ship.
cargo doesn't count toward the bounty.
also insurance of the ship is removed from the total before the 20% apply. |
Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.02.06 15:16:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:The bounty system is ****. Half of EVE have bounties on their heads, but the system is so broken that no-one can be ****** collecting them. +1 Bounties should create a triggerable kill-right for each 1b bounty IF the player ALSO has a negative security status. :) i.e. Player A has a 1.5b bounty AND a sec status of -0.8: Anyone can trigger a kill right in hisec on him. If he grinds sec status above 0, the kill right cannot be activated until it falls below 0 again. Make this even more compelling by having a 'Bounty Hunting Skill', that for each level trained reduces the threshold in which the killright can be triggered. i.e. If I have Bounty Hunting 5, I can trigger the killright at 100m, not 1b :) Done; bounty hunting made into an actual EVE profession, in a way that ties into existing 'being a criminal has consequences' mechanic...who knew... :)
below -0.5 you are killable regardless, without repurcussions. Basically you are asking for a system that is already in place.
I'd also like to confirm that having a 4.5B corp bounty makes this game pointless to play. So boring when people actually WANT to fight you, eh? |
Teardrop Butterfly
Vengeful Swan
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Posted - 2013.02.06 15:54:00 -
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Hmmm. Scar looks like Voldemort. Killboard |
Ra Jackson
BLOOM. Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.02.07 08:38:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote: below -0.5 you are killable regardless, without repurcussions. Basically you are asking for a system that is already in place.
You surely mean "below -5" |
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