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Yendaj
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:26:00 -
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Most of you have read evenews24 lately about Heretic Nation, if not, close this page now.
As the story unfolds and the comments come rolling in, I've come to realise that even someone who you know is a complete moron and out of his depth...can totally suprise you with how very stupid he can really be.
Discrediting yourself and your alliance and your capacity to effectively lead anything anywhere other than failure starts with this..
Karl Planck fakes killmail worth 7.7 bil then admits to it in comments.... lolz?
Karl Planck: 2013-02-02 16:20:13 kill actually valued at 7.7bil. I malformed the mail to get a heretic on this because it deserves to be on our board xD
How desperate Heretic Fakers and Karl Plonker himself must be right now to actually fake mails just to pump up their killboard stats and somehow convince themselves they are legit.......
We screen shot this particular faux pa for good measure, just incase he gets the urge to not be this ridiculously publically stupid!
Congratulations Mirrorgod on clawing back Heretic Nation from the inevitable failure Karl Plonker is about to lead Atrocitas down.
The Crime in this is simple... never emo rage hand over CEO to an idiot when you lose your alliance ---->Griznatle...
Karl Plonker couldn't lead a donkey already following a hanging carrot. |
Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:42:00 -
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Honestly, I wouldn't expect anyone from leadership or anyone with close ties to MirrorGod to be as immature and as bitter to others whom generally fought, laughed and raged with you guys. (Original Heretics) Do you realize that we generally DON'T care about who is CEO and who isn't? Most of us were completely apathetic towards the whole matter and the ones who sided with Karl simply did because he was around when MirrorGod wasn't. And I don't blame MirrorGod. Heretic Army was his doing and he built the name.
But you? The **** you spew in Amamake Local and the constant stream of taunts and insults...just astounds me that you would further alienate other Heretics. I don't know where MirrorGod stands with you on this. I don't think even he would condone you for berating us. Like everyone else, we just want to play the game! You're making NO attempts to alleviate the situation and you're invoking negative sentiment between Heretic Army and Heretic ArmyDOT.
TLDR: Grow the **** up and get MirrorGod and Karl to kiss or something. Jesus. This is pathetic. |
Yendaj
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.02.03 05:16:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:Honestly, I wouldn't expect anyone from leadership or anyone with close ties to MirrorGod to be as immature and as bitter to others whom generally fought, laughed and raged with you guys. (Original Heretics) Do you realize that we generally DON'T care about who is CEO and who isn't? Most of us were completely apathetic towards the whole matter and the ones who sided with Karl simply did because he was around when MirrorGod wasn't. And I don't blame MirrorGod. Heretic Army was his doing and he built the name.
But you? The **** you spew in Amamake Local and the constant stream of taunts and insults...just astounds me that you would further alienate other Heretics. I don't know where MirrorGod stands with you on this. I don't think even he would condone you for berating us. Like everyone else, we just want to play the game! You're making NO attempts to alleviate the situation and you're invoking negative sentiment between Heretic Army and Heretic ArmyDOT.
TLDR: Grow the **** up and get MirrorGod and Karl to kiss or something. Jesus. This is pathetic.
I realise alot of you are caught in the middle of this, but the atrocious side of this debacle have done plenty of their own crap talking and trashing in local, its not exactly one sided.
Look a little deeper and you might find your answers to this.... Atleast you have the good sense to admit that Heretic Army and Heretic Nation do indeed belong to Mirrorgod. Thats a start.... |
takedoom
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.02.03 06:02:00 -
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Seriously, no one gives a ****. Keep your drama between yourselves. http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/
I am not a thief. I am a treasure hunter. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2897
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:24:00 -
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Yendaj wrote:Look a little deeper and you might find your answers to this.... Atleast you have the good sense to admit that Heretic Army and Heretic Nation do indeed belong to Mirrorgod. Thats a start....
No, not really.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2897
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:28:00 -
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Here, let's link all the API verified kills:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16187688
Looks like we were in fleet and you guys got your asses handed to you. It's a shame your capitals didn't go down this time... but there's always next time! :)
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Karashur Tahazzar
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:29:00 -
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If i wanted politics I would watch the news, If I wanted drama I would watch The Bold and The Beautiful.
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/374364_10151701388274966_2060352088_n.jpg |
Elizabeth H3ll
Heretic Army Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:36:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA *breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA *breath* *pause* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.
Yet another Yendaj post in a matter that she shouldnt be concerned with? What are you going to take from MirrorGod now when you get bored and bash him? Another Revalation? His isk? His character?
This is pathetic, Yendaj/Vicarious/MirrorGod/Whoever you are.
Someone seem pretty mad that the got raped yesterday, Blueballed today and 0wned by PL. How many ships did you lose the past 3 days? Just curious becasue youre supposedly so awesome and l33t at this game with all your AMAZING contacts and friends! |
Karl Planck
Heretic Army Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:38:00 -
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honestly i just posted it on our personal boards to have something to remember the juiciest kill from the fleet op. You can't post on our boards without a heretic being involved so i added one dude to it. I even let people know that i screwed with the mail. Not sure what the big deal is outside of you guys losing 10bil on friday Proud CEO of Heretic Army and loyal servent to Mother Amamake. COME AT ME BRO! Forums: http://forum.heretic-army.biz/index.php-á Killboard: http://kb.heretic-army.biz/ Follow me on twitter @KarlPlanck |
Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army Atrocitas
108
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Posted - 2013.02.03 09:27:00 -
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Mirrorgod (MG) was a good FC and I'd be perfectly happy to fly in fleet when he leads it but that wasn't enough for him. Hence the power pull to try and rip the leadership away from Griz and Karl to himself.
During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. Accompanied by a very credible threat to remove Jude Lloyd (CEO at the time) with MG's 100% voting shares if it didn't happen, I feel they were right to pre-empt that threat by closing the corp and reforming it with MG no longer in voting control. Heretics was always a pew corp and all of us in Heretics are there for that reason, incursions is nothing like what we want and the whole suggestion was betraying Herertic's roots, so if Heretics was MG's baby, that's when he put it up for adoption. The Heretic Army MG created ceased to exist at this moment, the fact that Jude Lloyd saw fit to use the same name is immaterial. Had we not called ourselves Heretic Army again, MG's Heretic Army simply would have been empty and we'd have been calling ourselves something else. (We can probably arrange forum links to MG's posts on this if necessary, though I suspect no one else cares) The alternative was we could have reformed the corp under some other name but it would have been the same thing really. No one would have stayed in the corp to run incursions anyway, the options were reform or disband completely, incursions was simply not going to happen.
Because of the above I will never belong to a corp/alliance where MG is king. I have absolutely nothing against flying with him and it's not personal, but the tendency towards pulling power moves is not something I'm prepared to live with. Griz and Karl were right to keep roles away from MG for the above reason as well. If I wanted to render all unto Caesar I easily could have chosen to get into a null sec power bloc instead of living in low sec for so long. I'm much happier under the laissez-faire style of leadership I came to expect when I joined Heretics and Mirror was in PL. Had MG just been content to organize interesting fleets and run them I would have been perfectly happy to fly in them, but I don't blame Griz and Karl at all for being cautious about giving MG a power share.
EDIT: As for that edited mail, that was more for the benefit of people like me who had to work while the whole thing was going down. Chances are I would not have realized it was part of the fight otherwise, in any case what does it matter really. It's not as if Karl didn't post straight away the he had edited the mail for our personal KB (not BC or EvE Kill) just so we knew what went down, so I really have a hard time seeing it as a problem. If you were to look us up on any 3rd party board it wouldn't be there. |
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Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
165
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Posted - 2013.02.03 09:54:00 -
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*eats popcorn*
Fascinating story, my little droogies.
*munches more popcorn*
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Anya Klibor
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
179
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Posted - 2013.02.03 10:01:00 -
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So MirrorGod, I'm kind of curious...did you enjoy your batphone of Shadow Cartel? I hear they enjoyed handing you your ass! |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.02.03 11:05:00 -
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Nulbears and their issues......getting the popcorn. My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Anya Klibor
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
179
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Posted - 2013.02.03 11:08:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Nulbears and their issues......getting the popcorn.
Dude, we popped Rebirth.
(And it's lowsec, you doofus.) |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
225
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Posted - 2013.02.03 11:15:00 -
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Lowsec...aha my bad..... low sec is chaos. I like chaos! My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.03 14:17:00 -
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Valleria Darkmoon wrote:During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. .
Why would need to train carriers and cyno alts to do low sec incursions? |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front New Creation Collective
156
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Posted - 2013.02.03 14:36:00 -
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If only there was some sort of special forum for Corporation, Alliance, and Organization Discussions that nobody cares about who isn't personally involved... Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2897
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Posted - 2013.02.03 16:48:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Valleria Darkmoon wrote:During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. . Why would need to train carriers and cyno alts to do low sec incursions?
To carrier jump to the next one immediately.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
550
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Posted - 2013.02.03 18:42:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Nulbears and their issues......getting the popcorn.
HAHAHA and you are supposed to be mercs?
and for OP...WTF did I just read?
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Defialed
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.03 20:42:00 -
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Really don't care about most of this whole thing. We just want fun and to play the game. You can cause drama all you want, but most of us just plainly do not care. Post your faked and random bullshit. |
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Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army Atrocitas
108
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Posted - 2013.02.03 20:46:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Valleria Darkmoon wrote:During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. . Why would need to train carriers and cyno alts to do low sec incursions?
Everyone in the corp is well below -5.0 so moving an incursion fleet through high sec is pretty much out of the question, especially if we're doing it all the time we're going to get caught eventually and often. Going around in low sec has similar problems. In either event there is a strong possibility that moving from one to the other will take excruciatingly long. Throwing everything into a ship maintenance bays/corp hangars and carrier jumping WOULD have been doable had we been willing to do it. |
HoleySheet1
Concentrated Evil The Marmite Collective
161
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Posted - 2013.02.03 20:49:00 -
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Drama? Where? Low sec? Never mind. |
Anya Klibor
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
179
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Posted - 2013.02.04 03:27:00 -
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This thread actually amuses me. MIrrorGod batphones Failed Diplomacy and Rebirth., two corporations known for stationhugging and risk aversion. Rebirth. is known for not only failing in high sec, but fails harder in low sec. MirrorGod thinks he can batphone Shadow Cartel, of whom I know several directors. That fails. Rebirth loses 8-bil in low sec in Amamake because Rebirth has no friends, according to their CEO. He thought he'd be able to kill Zero Threat and myself, whom he absolutely hates.
I have to thank you, though. You only cemented why Rebirth is ******* terrible, and the rage recording I have after Ushwi's pod loss just makes me laugh hard. You were able to talk Kai into playing on our terms like he is so apt to do, and you helped to make sure his efficiency is destroyed for the better part of this month.
You are my hero. Please, continue. |
Yendaj
Mentally Assured Destruction
3
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Posted - 2013.02.04 11:40:00 -
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Just to set things straight about the absolute rubbish reason why Griz and Jude stole Heretic Army/Nation:
Directly from Mirrorgods post on the Heretic Army Forums: Regarding Incursions:
ANTI-Incursions
The Plan: Incursion chasing. Lowsec. We chase the PVP, once that runs dry, we jew the incursions. In a more mobile mannerism than done when in Amamake, Heretics will retain the habits of old, sending scout alts 1 jump out in all directions and looking for kills.
Why: Prepare to step out of your comfort zone. This is a new playstyle. WeGÇÖre taking the Piracy RapeTrain and driving it top speed into making 100m+ an hour. It will be very active and we aim to NEVER BE DOCKED -- that is, be actually playing eve as much as possible when logged in. Low-sec incursions attract a lot of attention, and weGÇÖre going to farm kills off of them until everyone RUNS THE **** AWAY. Then weGÇÖll gorge ourselves on CONCORDGÇÖs payroll until we have positive security status. Then weGÇÖll go straight to Yulai and suicide gank bitches.
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So much for Mirrorgod turning ANTI into an actual incursion corporation. You lying pieces of crap!
Thankfully you didnt have the wherewithall to actually create your own forums so you stole Hoggs forum and put it elsewhere. Good thing Hoggs knows how to actually backup and keep his own database.
Now to the replies from the actual members of ANTI:
Jimmyhatt Heretic Army
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:26 pm Posts: 262 Re: ANTI Incursions You have my JF for use.. Its 5 5 5 across the board.. I can move things as needed.
Neo Corricon BRB Gone to another corp
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:25 am Posts: 22 Location: Orange County, CA Re: ANTI Incursions 2 Carriers and 1 JF reporting for duty. All JC5, Carrier 5, etc...
Neo will be in whatever T3 is called for.
Gaijin Mei Heretic Army
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:39 am Posts: 29 Re: ANTI Incursions arcon and thanny reporting for duty also frieghter and orca if needed.
lets get this party started :)
Valoche Mrehl Heretic Army
Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 11 Re: ANTI Incursions +1
Then the so called self appointed leadership had a little discussion, decided that they didnt want to lose their supposed power and Griz posts this after they steal the corp and reformat it.
griznatle Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:34 am Outsider
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:48 am Posts: 122 Location: Seattle, WA Re: ANTI Incursions Rip mirrorgod's army
Viva le revolution
Pretty cut and dry, you guys stole the corp and reformatted it so that Jude was showing as the founder. You have no vision, lack insight and are obviously wanting to cash in on a reputation you had no hand in making. The only real drama going on now is in local and in your coms as you all try to figure out how to stop Heretic Nation from actually leaving Amamake to pvp on roams while you lot are incapable of leaving your safety blanket incase you have to impliment proper pvp with scouting and tactics....
=/
btw I see Tuskers handed your arses to you on a platter.... rofl?
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.04 12:26:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Valleria Darkmoon wrote:During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. . Why would need to train carriers and cyno alts to do low sec incursions? To carrier jump to the next one immediately. -Liang
You do realize that Incursion constellations have cyno jammers, which make that impossible to do? |
Tetsel
Heretic Army Atrocitas
62
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Posted - 2013.02.04 15:03:00 -
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I have a monocle. Twitter:-á-á-á-á@EVE_Tetsel-á-á-á@HereticArmy |
lilol' me
Live And Learn The Predictables
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Posted - 2013.02.04 15:46:00 -
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Yendaj = MirrorGod |
Anabaric
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
22
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Posted - 2013.02.04 15:51:00 -
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lilol' me wrote:Yendaj = MirrorGod
This.
Drama Llama everywhere. extraneus bastard
Blog: http://imsdemons.pvp101.net-á |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2911
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:46:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Valleria Darkmoon wrote:During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. . Why would need to train carriers and cyno alts to do low sec incursions? To carrier jump to the next one immediately. -Liang You do realize that Incursion constellations have cyno jammers, which make that impossible to do?
I'll spell it out for you since you have a case of the dumbs: the plan was to jump within 1 stargate jump of the Incursion constellation. 2-3 carrier jumps is still way more pleasant than everyone flying deadspace fit battleships across 60-100 jumps of low sec/null sec to get to the next Incursion.
-Liang
Ed: Not that I endorse this plan or that I would have partaken in it (despite being quite well set up to do so). Just that's what the plan was. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2911
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:54:00 -
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Yendaj wrote: So much for Mirrorgod turning ANTI into an actual incursion corporation. You lying pieces of crap! Now to the replies from the actual members of ANTI ...
No, turning Heretics into an Incursion corp was definitely in your plan MG. You discussed it on the forums and on vent and tried to convince us to go along with it. Nobody was having it. You can cherry pick the 3-4 responses from your best buds and even go run Incursions with a few of your best buds - but don't pretend like the corp was behind you on this.
Also, drop the whole "MG/Yendaj" thing because we both know it to be bullshit.
Quote:btw I see Tuskers handed your arses to you on a platter.... rofl?
What are you talking about?
http://kb.heretic-army.biz/?a=home&view=losses&y=2013&w=06
How's that POS doing m8?
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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