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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.02.03 21:16:00 -
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Die Unknown wrote:A jump freighter in an NPC corp can operate 99.99% risk free.
Suicide Gank them as they Jump into HS. As your goal is simply to hurt the big alliance, hauling unprofitable-to-gank loads won't keep them safe.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.02.04 04:45:00 -
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Mascen Carew wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Die Unknown wrote:A jump freighter in an NPC corp can operate 99.99%  risk free. Suicide Gank them as they Jump into HS. As your goal is simply to hurt the big alliance, hauling unprofitable-to-gank loads won't keep them safe. I tend to agree with RubyPorto, but just another prespective and perhaps not a very good one but would a mechanism that: a: Extended the jump time when using CynoGÇÖs for Jump Freighters; b: Allowed for the destruction of CynoGÇÖs while they are active; and c: If a Cyno is destroyed while a JF is still in warp the JF is lost in Warp, effectively destroyed. It is a bit of work but it would make a everything a Tad more interesting.
a: There's a fair delay between pressing jump and landing.
b: They can be, just kill the noobship.
c: If it is destroyed, the JF lands in a random spot in system. Easy prey for someone prepared with probes.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.02.04 05:02:00 -
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Mascen Carew wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Mascen Carew wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Die Unknown wrote:A jump freighter in an NPC corp can operate 99.99% risk free. Suicide Gank them as they Jump into HS. As your goal is simply to hurt the big alliance, hauling unprofitable-to-gank loads won't keep them safe. I tend to agree with RubyPorto, but just another prespective and perhaps not a very good one but would a mechanism that: a: Extended the jump time when using CynoGÇÖs for Jump Freighters; b: Allowed for the destruction of CynoGÇÖs while they are active; and c: If a Cyno is destroyed while a JF is still in warp the JF is lost in Warp, effectively destroyed. It is a bit of work but it would make a everything a Tad more interesting. a: There's a fair delay between pressing jump and landing next to the cyno. b: They can be, just kill the noobship. c: If it is destroyed, the JF lands in a random spot in system. Easy prey for someone prepared with probes. I'd still contend that there may be a benefit in extending the delay [sorry I've never noticed that much delay when jumping] and if the JF is in warp it should be either destroyed or at the least badly enough damaged to be easily gankable in a Concord system. I agree that they should still need to scan the JF down if its not destroyed, but if it suffers damage the destruction becomes manageable for a small gang.
Ah, I see. You've never run a JF. Because if you had, you'd know that you can't cyno into HS.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.02.04 07:15:00 -
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Shamus O'Reilly wrote:Mascen Carew wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Ah, I see. You've never run a JF. Because if you had, you'd know that you can't cyno into HS Correct Ruby not a JF Pilot, just Carrier I'm afraid. I'm confused here. a JF cannot cyno into HS either. nothing jump capable can. Cynos cannot be lit in hisec. Though JFs and grandfathered caps still in hisec can lock onto cynos lit in low/null and jump FROM hisec. Possibly this is what you mean?
That was exactly my point. He suggested some sort of weird damage mechanic to make it easier to gank JFs in HS. All it would actually do is change the requirements for choosing an appropriate cyno stations to include "has repair facilities" because no intelligent JF pilot is going to Jump to anywhere other than a LS station when making their last jump to leave Low/Null.
JFs are very easy to gank in HS. Just about anything is*. It's just expensive.
*Trying to do it profitably is what makes it difficult.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.02.04 14:42:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Tell us more about how easy it is to replace titans with jump freighters.
Don't you see, you Jump all the JFs into the middle of a fight and press the Voltron button and they become a Teetan.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:35:00 -
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Shamus O'Reilly wrote:Fredric Wolf wrote:Simpler solution would be to make it so NPC corp members can not light or bridge to cynos. Then you'd just have more corp hopping for cyno alts into an alt corp so as to remain somewhat anonymous
Or one man cyno alt corps. Wardecs wouldn't exactly have a serious effect on the lives of cyno alts given the location in which they operate (wardecs used to be vaguely useful in LS if you were bashing a bunch of POSes so you wouldn't have to dock up under GCC, but Crimewatch 2.0 changed that).
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