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Taraxon Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:02:00 -
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So is it a Thumbs down on investing with these guys? |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
390
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:23:00 -
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I don't know who you're talking about, yet I can still confidently say "yes". |
Taraxon Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:24:00 -
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It was to New Eden Trading. Looks like yet another scam. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
335
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:35:00 -
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its a scam
http://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180628&find=unread
are they still spamming all the channels with it? jeeez, thats some dedication, I give em that
shar'ra phone home |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
96
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:44:00 -
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Definite Scam. |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 00:10:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:Definite Scam.
Gents,
Please keep in mind the following:
1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk
2. Our returns are realistic
3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market
Thank you
Ethan Freeman
Forum Liaison/Account Manager
New Eden Trade Group
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
802
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:36:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:Alex Grison wrote:Definite Scam. Gents, Please keep in mind the following: 1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk 2. Our returns are realistic 3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market Thank you Ethan Freeman Forum Liaison/Account Manager New Eden Trade Group
outstanding perseverance. bravo.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 04:49:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Alex Grison wrote:Definite Scam. Gents, Please keep in mind the following: 1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk 2. Our returns are realistic 3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market Thank you Ethan Freeman Forum Liaison/Account Manager New Eden Trade Group outstanding perseverance. bravo.
Its not about perseverance, we have been in the markets for some time, and are not going to go anywhere. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
336
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Posted - 2013.02.04 06:47:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:
1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk
more like leaving convo when somebody ask for a collateral?
shar'ra phone home |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 06:55:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:
1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk
more like leaving convo when somebody ask for a collateral?
This is false, and has never happened. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
159
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Posted - 2013.02.04 07:05:00 -
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Screenshots and data void go a long way to validating claims on the part of the NEWTG. Perhaps create a thread, and prove your legitimacy. Have VV verify apis, or something. |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 07:10:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Screenshots and data void go a long way to validating claims on the part of the NEWTG. Perhaps create a thread, and prove your legitimacy. Have VV verify apis, or something.
For any who are interested https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=198823&find=unread
Explains why we wont bother posting screen shots, because they can be modified with paint and are pointless.
We wont release an API because we offer full collateral and have sensitive information to protect.
All covered in the link above. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
336
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Posted - 2013.02.04 13:17:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:
Explains why we wont bother posting screen shots, because they can be modified with paint and are pointless.
We wont release an API because we offer full collateral and have sensitive information to protect.
All covered in the link above.
such lame excuses...
ofc screenshots can be manipulated, but a) not by anyone (YOU) b) certainly not with a program like paint. But simply providing nothing because there is a chance of manipulation is just bad/dumb.
He did also not askyou to release your API (read more carefully please). He just recommended to give it to a third party like VV. to keep your super secret market gems.
btw. API`s are customizable now, you can just uncheck the transaction box, that way we would just see the market fee`s and no items that are beeing traded, but we would see that somethign is going on.
Ethan Freeman wrote:
3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market
plz do!
shar'ra phone home |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
795
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Posted - 2013.02.04 14:33:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere.
How many human members are there ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 18:56:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:
Explains why we wont bother posting screen shots, because they can be modified with paint and are pointless.
We wont release an API because we offer full collateral and have sensitive information to protect.
All covered in the link above.
such lame excuses... ofc screenshots can be manipulated, but a) not by anyone (YOU) b) certainly not with a program like paint. But simply providing nothing because there is a chance of manipulation is just bad/dumb. He did also not askyou to release your API (read more carefully please). He just recommended to give it to a third party like VV. to keep your super secret market gems. btw. API`s are customizable now, you can just uncheck the transaction box, that way we would just see the market fee`s and no items that are beeing traded, but we would see that somethign is going on. Ethan Freeman wrote:
3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market
plz do!
Also, we need to keep our manufacturing wing confidential along with our market gems.
As far as proving hundreds of billions rolled into the market, Ash offered to show you ship inventory in game by modifying orders. You declined all requests to talk in game. |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:02:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere. How many human members are there ?
4 |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
96
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:36:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:flakeys wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere. How many human members are there ? 4
Please inform me how all 4 people are actively trading with the corp's money without blatant corporate security risks. |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:43:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:flakeys wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere. How many human members are there ? 4 Please inform me how all 4 people are actively trading with the corp's money without blatant corporate security risks.
All real life friends, two of which are brothers. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
336
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:38:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:
Also, we need to keep our manufacturing wing confidential along with our market gems.
As far as proving hundreds of billions rolled into the market, Ash offered to show you ship inventory in game by modifying orders. You declined all requests to talk in game.
yea that convo...besides some offending phrases regarding my alt-posting and my attitude was absolutely nothing beeing said in that conversation, thats why I left.
why cant you send an api to a chribba-like-person again? Or are you telling us that you have such brilliant market ideas that even chribba/VV etc. would screw their reputation and exploit your api data? if your that good, how come your still looking for so much isk-help and spam every single channel, all day long?
If I would like to pledge, lets say 80b, what kind of collateral could I expect from you?
shar'ra phone home |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:04:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:
Also, we need to keep our manufacturing wing confidential along with our market gems.
As far as proving hundreds of billions rolled into the market, Ash offered to show you ship inventory in game by modifying orders. You declined all requests to talk in game.
yea that convo...besides some offending phrases regarding my alt-posting and my attitude was absolutely nothing beeing said in that conversation, thats why I left. why cant you send an api to a chribba-like-person again? Or are you telling us that you have such brilliant market ideas that even chribba/VV etc. would screw their reputation and exploit your api data? if your that good, how come your still looking for so much isk-help and spam every single channel, all day long? If I would like to pledge, lets say 80b, what kind of collateral could I expect from you?
Your claim that there was ever a convo is false.
As the liaison between my corp and the forums i keep a log of all interactions between my mates and regulars on Market Discussion. My records shows that no such conversation in game ever took place between any NETG members and shar'ra matcevsovski. The CEO has eve mailed regarding things not related to NETG, but other than that, there has been no conversations. Please stop making false statements about the dealing of NETG.
There is no reason to go through the hassle of releasing an API and having an audit done because we offer full collateral for isk borrowed. We never said we have "brilliant market ideas" or that we are "that good" so please dont go there, because you are just making more false statements.
Do you intend to pledge 80bil? because if not, I'm not going to waste valuable time looking over our inventory, when that time can be used modifying orders. We have investors to pay. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
50
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:12:00 -
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posting in a netc nerd rage thread
I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
336
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Posted - 2013.02.05 06:33:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:
Your claim that there ever was a in game convo in which you were shown inventory is false.
As the liaison between my corp and the forums, one of my responsibilities is to keep a detailed log of all interactions between my mates and regulars on Market Discussion. My records shows that no such conversation in game ever took place between any NETG members and shar'ra matcevsovski. The CEO has eve mailed you regarding things not related to NETG, but other than that, there has been no conversations. Please stop making false statements about the dealing of NETG.
api doesnt fetch any chat logs, so how can you guarantee that no such conversation took place? Other than you, Im not affraid to show his mails where he was clearly reffering to a previous (rage-) conversation.
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Do you intend to pledge 80bil? because if not, I'm not going to waste valuable time looking over our inventory, when that time can be used modifying orders. We have investors to pay.
ofc I am, when collateralized im your best investor, why not!
shar'ra phone home |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.05 06:46:00 -
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Show whatever you would like to.
Now to business, how long is this offer for 80 billion open for? What are your terms? |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
5
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Posted - 2013.02.05 13:49:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:Show whatever you would like to.
Now to business, how long is this offer for 80 billion open for? What are your terms?
pretty sure there was an offer for 20 |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
Insurance Fraud.
184
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Posted - 2013.02.05 14:44:00 -
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Don't invest, they use child labor. I have pics to prove it.
I just won't post them because, you know, they can be modified with paint.
There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
336
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:37:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:Show whatever you would like to.
OK
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Now to business, how long is this offer for 80 billion open for? What are your terms?
Brother its your business... if im not totally wrong, its your part to tell me the conditions as you must know best what you can make with the isk.
shar'ra phone home |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.05 19:57:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Show whatever you would like to. OKEthan Freeman wrote:
Now to business, how long is this offer for 80 billion open for? What are your terms?
Brother its your business... if im not totally wrong, its your part to tell me the conditions as you must know best what you can make with the isk.
I want to do a deal here, so give me your ideal terms and we will go from there. You are the one that said you are willing to pledge 80 billion, i would simply like to know what your terms are?
Thank you
Edit: Regarding your screenshot, like i said earlier in my other post, the in game convo in which he offered to show you inventory never took place because you were rude to him the moment he convoed you. |
Taraxon Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:42:00 -
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I'm not sayin' your corp is a gold digga' but ain't seen it wit no......well you get the picture. Definite scamming corp. |
Ash Holloway
New Eden Trade Group
10
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Posted - 2013.04.23 02:37:00 -
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Not sure why you upped this post from 3 months ago, but once again we are not scammers.
We offer full collateral to secure loans |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
285
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:58:00 -
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Not this again |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
Insurance Fraud.
255
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Posted - 2013.04.23 05:55:00 -
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We're gonna need you to, uh, send that collateral over so we can, uh, yeah confirm its authenticity.
There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Ash Holloway
New Eden Trade Group
10
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Posted - 2013.04.23 06:39:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote:We're gonna need you to, uh, send that collateral over so we can, uh, yeah confirm its authenticity.
If you are interested in partnering with us, we would be happy to contract you collateral for isk after we agree upon terms.
Contact me in game if you want to do a deal. |
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
40
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:15:00 -
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YOU ARE BAD
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED |
Taraxon Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:34:00 -
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Ash Holloway wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:We're gonna need you to, uh, send that collateral over so we can, uh, yeah confirm its authenticity. If you are interested in partnering with us, we will be happy to contract you collateral for isk after we agree upon terms. Contact me in game if you want to do a deal, but I'm guessing you are just like every other troll in our posts, all talk.
Actually we are just like you, we put our pants on the same way in the morning except then you go out and SCAM people. |
The Fukuzawa
New Eden Trade Group
2
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:47:00 -
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Taraxon Taranogas wrote:Ash Holloway wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:We're gonna need you to, uh, send that collateral over so we can, uh, yeah confirm its authenticity. If you are interested in partnering with us, we will be happy to contract you collateral for isk after we agree upon terms. Contact me in game if you want to do a deal, but I'm guessing you are just like every other troll in our posts, all talk. Actually we are just like you, we put our pants on the same way in the morning except then you go out and SCAM people.
NETG has been borrowing isk from the eve community for almost a year now, and have not scammed a single player ever. Before the corp existed, members were borrowing isk from the community and have never scammed anyone.
We are not scammers.
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