I was wondering what is this 'force projection' thing in 0.0 sov warfare , I've heard it several times on forum posts.

Can someone give me an example and more details and why it is an issue atm.?

thx.

Think of a rock. That's the force. Now throw it. That's projection.

The discussion is about how far, how big, how many and how quick you are supposed to throw those rocks.

Ok thks I think it's clearer now, so the best way would be use titans right, or that's the only ship that works.?

..and why has this ability got out of hand what needs to change?

Think of a rock. That's the force. Now throw it. That's projection.

The discussion is about how far, how big, how many and how quick you are supposed to throw those rocks.

Ok thks I think it's clearer now, so the best way would be use titans right, or that's the only ship that works.?

..and why has this ability got out of hand what needs to change?

Edit: Or if its really a consensus that it is a major problem?

[e only 5-6 ships per 0.0 system can take advantage of belts/annoms so an alliance with 2k plus people needs lots of space and also passive pos income...

So what I gather is, force projection makes New Eden small and promotes only large alliance that need to hold many systems, that means little corps don't stand a chance to hold sov right?

No. A little corp can certainly stand a chance. What matters is politics. If your intention is to get a foothold in 0.0 and then unleash hell on everyone around you then why exactly should this see a support in the mechanics by cutting everyone's force down?

So what I gather is, force projection makes New Eden small and promotes only large alliance that need to hold many systems, that means little corps don't stand a chance to hold sov right?

So you need to make friends, being smart , committed and skillful in combat means nothing?

So you need to make friends, being smart , committed and skillful in combat means nothing?

Think of a rock. That's the force. Now throw it. That's projection.

The discussion is about how far, how big, how many and how quick you are supposed to throw those rocks.

So what I gather is, force projection makes New Eden small and promotes only large alliance that need to hold many systems, that means little corps don't stand a chance to hold sov right?

Not sure if I get your sentence...

Yes, you need to make friends. You can think of EVE as a single player game while you are in high-sec, but latest in 0.0 will you need to realize that this is a MMO PvP game.

Little corps can always choose to work alongside big alliances and work collectively towards a goal. Additionally, 'force projection' lets the large alliance escalate fights and deploy easier but also is the only allowing the small corp or alliance to live out in the middle of nowhere. Unless you think the small alliance really has a chance slowly escorting freighters full of their supplies gate by gate dozens of jumps through hostile space, assuming they'd still even want to run a small alliance with all the additional bother.

'Force projection' generally means any form of transportation that's done not using a gate. As you might expect, complaints are often non-specific game with suggested changes having lots of unconsidered consequences.

tldr: with current mechanics in 0.0 limiting force projection is a bad idea... but if they fix sov mechanics and how 0.0 farming works then it might be in order

Force projection covers a lot of things. Everything from titan bridging, jump clones, cynos, and all the way to an opponents psychological mind. So while most people measure force projection in light years, there is a bit more to it. I guess it depends how deep you want to go with it in terms of the meaning.

I think i get it now, its all about politics and choosing your friends wisely hoping they don't back stab you.

I think I get the general idea, what I do wonder if the game world was larger with more empty spaces, might give room for more small alliances and corps giving rise to larger and more varied null community. I feel there should always be new places to explore and settle down.

There is a place for smaller corporations, and there are many the live in nullsec. But you have to have friends, or your neighbors will treat you like a punching bag.