Originally by: Khargos

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Originally by: Khargos

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/07/2005 05:12:03
Oh by the way, that 10.8 damage the Raven was doing to you with torpedoes was 10.8 more damage than my megabeams would have done to you.

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turret users have allways had the means to kill friggies, web and target painter with pulses. missle battleships do not have these options.

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Eh... I can web and target paint orbiting frigs all I want, I still don't hit. My current NPCing setup has 6 megabeams and 2 medium beams (small turrets). The small turrets make mincemeat of the frigs when combined with my drones.

Ravens can fit small turrets. Ravens can fit drones.

Any questions?

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thats why its good to throw some pulses' into your apoc setup. if you cant kill frigs with pulses web and painter, then your a failure. ravens and other caldari ships dont have the same option for effective anti frig.

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Originally by: Morela

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"hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"

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Originally by: Deja Thoris

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Originally by: Khargos

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Originally by: Khargos

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/07/2005 05:12:03
Oh by the way, that 10.8 damage the Raven was doing to you with torpedoes was 10.8 more damage than my megabeams would have done to you.

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turret users have allways had the means to kill friggies, web and target painter with pulses. missle battleships do not have these options.

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Eh... I can web and target paint orbiting frigs all I want, I still don't hit. My current NPCing setup has 6 megabeams and 2 medium beams (small turrets). The small turrets make mincemeat of the frigs when combined with my drones.

Ravens can fit small turrets. Ravens can fit drones.

Any questions?

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thats why its good to throw some pulses' into your apoc setup. if you cant kill frigs with pulses web and painter, then your a failure. ravens and other caldari ships dont have the same option for effective anti frig.

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I'm sorry? Since when can't ravens fit guns?

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"

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Originally by: Selim

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"SOMEONE AT CCP BEEN ON THE DRINK I THINK!"

Probably, but then who could blame them o.O;

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WTB one-way ticket to Reykjavik

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Originally by: F'nog

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Hilabana makes me laugh. Who else sees a forum ban coming for him?

PS - I can't believe this thread still hasn't been modded.

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Originally by: Antuirc Halcyon

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Edited by: Antuirc Halcyon on 14/07/2005 03:21:59
Instead of just saying this is another whine thread, I will attempt to explain to the original poster how the nerf bat swings round and round.

Now I haven't been here from the begining, but I'll post what I know from my time in-game.

First - oversized AB on frigs was a valid tatic for frigate pilots to avoid the missiles that were spamed at them. Missiles trajectory was not predective, and it was not uncommon to see 20 missiles trailing behind a frigate. Although balanced from a frigate perspective, as offensive capabilites was limited do to cramming a 10 MN AB on, it overpowered cruisers in the same regard. Thus the nerf bat swung.

Second - After the oversize AB nerf, frigates were left with the option of using a MWD to attempt to outrun missiles. But missile AI was changed to be predective. Instetad of training a frigate (or other ship) it now met the ship in its flight path. Thus the WTFPWN Raven was born. This ship could handle anything, no matter the speed with torps. Although trops were specfically designed to deal damage to BS and structures. This was a sad day in all frigate pilots lives.

Third - The missiles changes go live, and everyone that had never set foot on the forums (which would have told them about the changes when they were announced and invited to the test server to test them) are running around talking about how the game is ruined and the sky is falling. Frigate pilots rejoice at once again being able to serve their tackling role, without the fear of a torp spamming Raven killing them.

Now all pod pilots are equal, in that they must setup their ship due to the circumstances they may find themselves in. Although I have not the skills, it is my understanding from the feedback during the missile testing that once all the new skills are trained up, a Raven should still be 90% as effective as it was before the patch. Now a Raven pilot has to choose a loadout, or heaven forbid, use its drone bay to take care of smaller ships.

As per your statement that a BS can't fight a frig, nothing is preventing you from mounting assualt launchers to your Raven. Read their description. Something along the lines of dealing with smaller ship classes and mountable by larger ships.

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Originally by: adarma

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IVE BEEN PLAYING EVE FOR OVER A YEAR BUT THIS IS THE LAST STRAW A BS CANT FIGHT A FRIG A TORP DOSE LESS DAMAGE THAN A LIGHT MISSILE!!! SOMEONE AT CCP BEEN ON THE DRINK I THINK!
CCP YOU ARE FULL OF IT YOU ADVERTISE THAT IN EVE YOU MAKE YOUR OWN WAY BUT IN EVERY TURN YOU CHANGE EVERYTHING TO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE SO PLAYERS HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME YOU WANT ! NOT WHAT THE PLAYER WANTS TO DO WITH HIS CHAR AND HOW HE WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME .
REMEMBER WHEN EVE WAS A REAL TIME BASED GAME NOT NO MORE YOU GO TO BED WITH A NICE SPORTS CAR OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BUT WAIT CCP HAVE COME ALONG AND TURNED IT INTO A PILE OF SCRAP. SOME REAL TIME GAME THIS IS FUNNY WHEN I GO TO BED MY CARS THE SAME WHEN I WAKE UP HMMM CCP THE WORD BS COMES TO MIND FOR THE FIRST TIME I CAN HONESTLY SAY THIS GAME IS C**P. CCP YOU JUST WANT THE GAME PLAYED YOUR WAY AND NOT WHAT THE PLAYERS WANT TO PLAY SO TAKE EVE OFF THE MARKET AND PLAY IT YOURSELF MIGHT AS WELL WE CANT PLAY THE GAME THE WAY WE WANT TO !

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Originally by: adarma

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IVE BEEN PLAYING EVE FOR OVER A YEAR BUT THIS IS THE LAST STRAW A BS CANT FIGHT A FRIG A TORP DOSE LESS DAMAGE THAN A LIGHT MISSILE!!! SOMEONE AT CCP BEEN ON THE DRINK I THINK!
CCP YOU ARE FULL OF IT YOU ADVERTISE THAT IN EVE YOU MAKE YOUR OWN WAY BUT IN EVERY TURN YOU CHANGE EVERYTHING TO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE SO PLAYERS HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME YOU WANT ! NOT WHAT THE PLAYER WANTS TO DO WITH HIS CHAR AND HOW HE WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME .
REMEMBER WHEN EVE WAS A REAL TIME BASED GAME NOT NO MORE YOU GO TO BED WITH A NICE SPORTS CAR OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BUT WAIT CCP HAVE COME ALONG AND TURNED IT INTO A PILE OF SCRAP. SOME REAL TIME GAME THIS IS FUNNY WHEN I GO TO BED MY CARS THE SAME WHEN I WAKE UP HMMM CCP THE WORD BS COMES TO MIND FOR THE FIRST TIME I CAN HONESTLY SAY THIS GAME IS C**P. CCP YOU JUST WANT THE GAME PLAYED YOUR WAY AND NOT WHAT THE PLAYERS WANT TO PLAY SO TAKE EVE OFF THE MARKET AND PLAY IT YOURSELF MIGHT AS WELL WE CANT PLAY THE GAME THE WAY WE WANT TO !

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Originally by: Jennai

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YOU WHINY RAVEN-*****.

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