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Posted - 2013.02.09 10:50:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:This may be true, but it doesn't make the retriever king, just the most used work horse. actually, being the most used does make it king. so... it does. Pawns are the most common piece on a chess board, they are not kings. Infantry are the most common soldiers in battle, they are not kings of the battlefield. Ford F series are the most common car registered in the US, they are not kings of the road. Again, just because it's common, doesn't make it king. Kings are those viewed as excelling or being dominant. Hulls easily dominate retrievers in mining amount, macs in hold amount.
i have no idea why are your arguing semantics, the op is unusually clear on his point. (he usually makes no sence on his posts)
his point is, given the cost-results ratio being completly skewed thanks to the WORST rebalance in eve history, the hulk is a over priced piece of crap.
let me put it this way, if you live in highsec and you mine in hulks claiming that math dictates they have the best isk/h, then you are a simple minded buffoon. that's NOT the whole equation, part of the equation must be amortization costs. once you take into account amortization mining in a hulk is a fools errand, noone should even undock, or even manufacture those things for highsec use.
they are kings of nothing, overly expensive noob traps. claiming that they have the best yield is like saying officer fittings make you the "king" of missions or anoms because they beat anything else... except they are so expensive and they make such coveted killmails that not even using the low level officer stuff is worthwhile, people will gank you. and yeah, there's plenty of officer stuff that's under a bill a piece, cheaper than deadspace, but people will still go to stupid efforts just to get that killmail.
the cost and risk must be part of the equation like everything in eve, that's why officer fittings are noob bait, same with hulks.
as it is now, 200m for 2m isk/h over a covetor, knowing you will be the primary target is just plain stupidity.
people have been saying this was the wrong thing to do since the "barge rebalance" was announced, in the old days miners could mine trough hulkgeddon losing ships and making a profit at the end, now its just pointless. the correct way of rebalancing barges had to be to SLASH production costs by at least 70% and leaving them as they were stat wise, the only good thing to come out of the rabalance is the skiff... i cant wait to see 20 morons gank a 120kehp skiff and botch the kill 50% of the time. spending 200% of the target ships worth to kill it. 
if they had reduced production costs, instead of a half assed buff to tank and utility, you would have mineral costs going down, and the belts full of targets.
instead all you get is skiffgeddon, have fun. |