There is no bridge, you're suspended in a pod filled with jelly.

well observed, no there is no bridge.. thats why i like the idea about a ship bridge, even with the ability to go into the cargo room.
if i am mining or just spinning ship, then why not have a bridge like we have this opportunity choosing Captains Quarters...


jelly, what wrong with jelly.... jelly is easy digestible

Sorry but that's not how MY pod works.

Awesome.

Nice way to speak to a fellow WiS supporter who was relating how it appeals to certain players (like myself) to not be encased in a vat of goo every second we are in our ships.

Awesome.

Nice way to speak to a fellow WiS supporter who was relating how it appeals to certain players (like myself) to not be encased in a vat of goo every second we are in our ships.

CCP says your character is sitting in a metal egg filled with goo, probably tastes like chicken.

Perhaps living in Iceland it is a common dream to be ensconced in a vat of warm goo.

Ive heard before that our ships do have crews on board. A lot of ships appear to have a bridge. If our consciousness is how we are able to see our ship from the outside as we do now, then its not too far fetched to allow us to view the game from with in the ship's bridge. Currently we can zoom in to our hull and zoom out. Id like to view the game (at times of mining, traveling, sight seeing) from the view of the crew in the bridge.

When i first heard of EVE, i hoped it might be a first person manually piloting game. The lack of that level of immersion, i have no problem living without, but I would welcome some further immersion in the game.

There is no bridge, you're suspended in a pod filled with jelly.

Afaik the pod is completely encased in a structure inside the ship, meaning you cant even open the pod in its normal position.
It also means that if you really want to leave your pod it has to be removed from the interface chamber and moved to another room, that sounds like a bit of a bad idea just saying.

Since ships are apparently unable to save the configurations a pilot makes, leaving the pod would mean that all the nice boni from your skills would vanish the moment you disconnect from your ship.

Also just for the records, the CQ we have right now is just so damn stupid from an in character perspective. Its only function is probably to allow ccp to bill the carbon stuff they need for future projects as cost for Eve to make said future projects look better.

Honestly why would anybody leave their invulnerable demigod throne to trip along a walkway with no safeguards and a huge pit below just after regaining your bodies senses?

There is a bridge. Pod pilots are just not on it. Ships that have Pod Pilots still have crews. They just dont require as many people to run the ship as a ship without a pod pilot.

There is a bridge. Pod pilots are just not on it. Ships that have Pod Pilots still have crews. They just dont require as many people to run the ship as a ship without a pod pilot.

Sorry but that's not how MY pod works.

I have a normal captain's chair on a normal bridge with an extensive crew taking care of most of the ship's functions.

It's only critical I be in my chair, where I am plugged in, when a fight breaks out. The pod will surround and enclose the chair when a fight ensues. It still fills with 'goo' as needed to protect the occupant in such a small craft during warp, but I'm considering the technology that makes even that unnecessary.

I'm sorry you guys are still stuck with whatever antiquated technology requires you to be in your pods from the moment you leave station. Get with the times.


(P.S. The whole goo-pod was one of the things that kept me away from this game for years! It's not in any way sexy, exciting, or relatable, and in my opinion a pretty stupid idea outside of being an easy escape route from a rapidly dying ship. I'm sure CCP, knowing you couldn't leave your ship at the time, simply wanted people to feel like they were their ship, the ship was their character, their avatar. Well with WiS (which drew me back to the game - even though it's currently severely limited) and the plans they've expressed for it, where you are NOT your ship, but a real person who walks around and has real relations and a real life, the goo-pod tends to get in the way. Once I realized I could simply write much of the goo-pod out of my own fiction, I found the game more appealing. )

Well I don't recall reading anything about capsuleer ships not having bridges, though I haven't read all the fiction.

I'm going to assume that they do have bridges and if some fiction says somewhere that they don't, then regardless MINE do, and I have much more advanced pod technology that allows me to remain out of pod until I plug in to my captain's chair for a battle at which point the pod encapsulates me & chair should a hull breach seem imminent. I'll even still permit it to fill with a protective (chicken flavored) 'goo'.

Though how I still wind up naked in space after a podding, I've yet to explain.

My biggest concern with including bridges in game for our avatars would be them all looking the same regardless of which ship we are in. I already hate that EVERY empire's docking bays look identical no matter how different the station looks on the outside.

As for ship crews. I did read somewhere the crew compliment of various ship sizes. Capitals can have thousands of crew members to operate such a complex ship. And usually when a ship is destroyed a certain percentage of crew are able to escape in escape pods. Sadly though, the one's who die do not have clones to be reanimated into.

Afaik the pod is completely encased in a structure inside the ship, meaning you cant even open the pod in its normal position.
It also means that if you really want to leave your pod it has to be removed from the interface chamber and moved to another room, that sounds like a bit of a bad idea just saying.

Since ships are apparently unable to save the configurations a pilot makes, leaving the pod would mean that all the nice boni from your skills would vanish the moment you disconnect from your ship.

Also just for the records, the CQ we have right now is just so damn stupid from an in character perspective. Its only function is probably to allow ccp to bill the carbon stuff they need for future projects as cost for Eve to make said future projects look better.

Honestly why would anybody leave their invulnerable demigod throne to trip along a walkway with no safeguards and a huge pit below just after regaining your bodies senses?

The pod allows you to fly, by yourself, a ship that would normally take a crew of thousands. It's the storyline. They could change it, but it's pretty pivotal to 10 years worth of fiction.

I dont' see the need to really change it.

your "bridge" could simply be a holographic virtual user-interface that you've chosen to represent your mind-link with your vessel.

Afaik the pod is completely encased in a structure inside the ship, meaning you cant even open the pod in its normal position.
It also means that if you really want to leave your pod it has to be removed from the interface chamber and moved to another room, that sounds like a bit of a bad idea just saying.

Since ships are apparently unable to save the configurations a pilot makes, leaving the pod would mean that all the nice boni from your skills would vanish the moment you disconnect from your ship.

Also just for the records, the CQ we have right now is just so damn stupid from an in character perspective. Its only function is probably to allow ccp to bill the carbon stuff they need for future projects as cost for Eve to make said future projects look better.

Honestly why would anybody leave their invulnerable demigod throne to trip along a walkway with no safeguards and a huge pit below just after regaining your bodies senses?

Long wall of text implying realism is a primary design feature in EVE.

Two points.

1: Virtual Presence bypasses all your relevant objections. As in many novels, a ship controlled by a living mind can have an avatar with a physical presence.
Some series even use this, such as Andromeda, as a representation of the ship's AI. Arguably this is also a living being.

2: Realism? Seriously?
This is science fiction, and even if we make the bizarre assumption that advancements happen at an amazingly uneven rate for different types of technology, we still violate so many laws of motion in the game it is a laughing matter.

For example, we can warp faster than the speed of light, but otherwise we actually travel at speeds that only make sense if an atmosphere exists to provide limits and secondary effects.

For example: 250 m/s is a good speed for our ships, right?
It also happens to be the speed of a modern jet airliner.

981 m/s is fast then, right?
Same speed as the SR-71 blackbird.

The space shuttle, in low earth orbit?
7,700 m/s

Link here

Only a portion of my admittedly long-winded post relates to realism as a design feature, be it a primary one or otherwise (which I didn't actually speculate on).

With regards to your commentary on various real-world speeds, I want to point out to you that CCP has stated the New Eden universe runs on a "Fluid Dynamics" model for practicality's sake. Things like navigation (including actually stopping the ship) would be a tremendous pain otherwise, or so they've said.

Concerning the disparity between warp and subwarp speeds, I direct you to "FTL Travel - How?" and urge you to remember that "Jump Drive", as it is used in this particular article, actually references the Warp Drive, as the context will demonstrate. Why the drives are referred to as "Jump" instead of "Warp", I cannot speculate.

EDIT: It seems to me that we're starting to go off on something that's not related to the actual topic of this thread. As such, I'll simply re-iterate my opinion on the matter: Keep whatever personal fiction you like that makes the game enjoyable for you, but don't expect CCP to crap all over ten years of their own established official fiction in order to enhance your personal experience. If the lack of walking around inside your ship is killing you that much, STO exists.

this would be awesome :D

*pictures himself walking along the bridge of his faithful omen class cruiser , the ISS Giant Beak

even if it isnt feasible in space , i would like this to become a secondary captains quaters in station

Like reading my mind

Even if it is just in station, I think we should be able to inspect our ships on the inside.

Why get excited over that small captain's quarters? You should see the party palace I got docked in the hangar.

I shudder to think of the dev time that would be required for something like that, nevermind how enormous the increase to the client size would be.

However, I admit it would be interesting to have Walking in Ships in Stations. Just don't get lost exploring C-Deck of your carrier.

i mean seriously, the only alternative would be to give some poor peasant girl enough isk to feed her family for generations, a scuba tank, adn throw her in the pod with you to give you feel-goods while you pewpew.

also, first person view

Oh Brother this totally doable! No need to leave the pod. Have the Captain Android do the walking, totally customization three meter tall of awesomeness. CCP I would paid $$$ just to have this! The risk would be that the driod would go down with the ship. Mine would look like Sauron.

PS I fact I would support WIS if Captain Android did the walking out side the CQ

Here is a fix for the whole Capsule/Goo/Can't move. Holo-Technology.


You are not on the bridge, a Hologram of you is. You are still sitting in your Gel Pod, but you are holographically displayed on the bridge. You can move, sit, walk around, and have some control over your ship (changing course, auto pilot, rearranging fits, etc). This type of holographic technology was developed to help with the Medical Condition Known as Psychosis. Many people would self destruct pod after pod because they could not move. Holotechnology allowed for a tap into the person's brain, allowing them to project themselves on the bridge of their ship, with the feeling of freedom and movement. While this technology would cause a slower response time in captains (due to them focusing on walking around in their holographic duds), a necessity for such technology was present. To help counteract with dealing with emergencies and possible combat situations, three emergency triggers have been set that will cause the holo projection to shutdown and immediately revert back into Camera Drone control of the Capsuleer, snapping him out of his Holo Haze, allowing for fast reaction time.

1) The ship is targetted
2) The ship is attacked
3) The ship collides with an object (warp bubbles, other ships, POS modules, etc. If deemed safe by the capsuleer, the trigger can be reset, and will reactivate immediately if any of the above happens again.

Viewing your ship through the Bridge is totally optional for the player, and in no way shape or form is required for anytype of travel or use of the ship (if you do not like the Bridge, you never have to see it).

Pod Problem Fixed!!!! You have a walking Hologram.

You do realize that a bridge would be awesome :-)

Frigates: Cockpit View's. Number's showing on controls below you, with a outline of your route shown also
Destroyers. Small bridge (little larger than a closet). A few machines going back and forth checking settings.
Cruisers. Small bridge, enough for 3 small stations. Monitors which shows videos' of your crew working below in other maintenance bays.

Battlecruisers. Medium Bridge. Large viewscreens, multiple stations, robots or people walking around. Station showling outline of entire fleet if fleeted.

Battleship through Carrier, large bridge, multiple substations, map of the entire ship. If the ship has been damaged, notes of where the ship has been damaged.

Titan's.. well....

Industrial/Ore ships.. generally dirty inside, small bridges.

If you want to be very creative, you can permit people to customize their bridges, decide on basic decorations (which would apply to all ships they buy. To clarify:

If they buy a Thorax, and decorate it (change paint style, chair style, crew clothing wear, etc), whenever they buy a new thorax, it would also be laid out the exact same way.

For simplicity sake, you could apply that to all ships of a tier (aka Gallente Cruiser's have the same Bridge, and same decoration you set for the cruisers) instead of having each cruiser have its own layout.

But at minimum, there would be one bridge layout per race's ship tier line. One layout for Minmatar, Caldari, Amarr, Gallente Frigates, one for each Racial Cruisers, Racial Battlecruisers, Battleships, etc.

Initially, I believe the following should be customizable (in some way) on bridges.

1) Color Scheme (2 to 3 colorschemes), extra colorschemes available under AUR.
2) Chairs (there are two types, crew chairs and captains chair), different design layouts, with Additional Available under AUR
3) Types of layout of substations (25 to 40 layouts of where substations would go/how they would look would do, with extra substation layouts available under AUR.
4) Type of crew and their uniforms/clothing, allot which would also be under AUR.

Why suggest putting some of this customization under AUR... well if you want to be fancy, you could spend your money to get it, and CCP gets a little extra cheddar for something that would be a Art Directors Vision of Awesome Fluff.

This is a Large art project. Designing essentially 44 interiors (4 of the following, frigates, destroyers, cruisers, battlecruisers, battleships, carriers, titans, industrials, freighters, barges... Not including the pirate factions.). The 4 main races would do for now..

LET ME OUT.... IM TIRED IF THAT SPACECOW FLAVOR GOO FILLED POD... I WANT OUT

Sorry but that's not how MY pod works.

I have a normal captain's chair on a normal bridge with an extensive crew taking care of most of the ship's functions.

It's only critical I be in my chair, where I am plugged in, when a fight breaks out. The pod will surround and enclose the chair when a fight ensues. It still fills with 'goo' as needed to protect the occupant in such a small craft during warp, but I'm considering the technology that makes even that unnecessary.

I'm sorry you guys are still stuck with whatever antiquated technology requires you to be in your pods from the moment you leave station. Get with the times.


(P.S. The whole goo-pod was one of the things that kept me away from this game for years! It's not in any way sexy, exciting, or relatable, and in my opinion a pretty stupid idea outside of being an easy escape route from a rapidly dying ship. I'm sure CCP, knowing you couldn't leave your ship at the time, simply wanted people to feel like they were their ship, the ship was their character, their avatar. Well with WiS (which drew me back to the game - even though it's currently severely limited) and the plans they've expressed for it, where you are NOT your ship, but a real person who walks around and has real relations and a real life, the goo-pod tends to get in the way. Once I realized I could simply write much of the goo-pod out of my own fiction, I found the game more appealing. )

There is always a bridge on a ship. Look at their design yes your in a pod , get out of the pod.

There is no bridge, you're suspended in a pod filled with jelly.

You are in a goo-filled pod. Imagine it however you like, but that does not change facts.

Well with the new infantry technology, there is no good reason to be limited to the pod. All the hardware needed to reincarnate could be left in the pod, allowing you to walk about your ship, maybe play a game of chess with your favorite exotic dancer, while your mega pulse lasers send a fleet of rogue drones to hell. All your ships essential controls could be managed with a subconscious WiFi connection.

We are supposed to be the most hedonistic selfish products of mankind, its about time we act like it.

On the technical side of it, there is no need for any of the bridge to be server side. Whole thing could be a client side graphics patch that would not affect gameplay and could easily be turned off. It should be done as an optional patch though, as many players don't want to waste hard drive space on something so completely irrelevant.

Now, I have been against the Captains Bridge idea, at least on the principle that you cannot exit your pod while in control of a ship. I have just finished reading "Templar One" and it seems I was wrong. It seems there are in fact some ships that have their own pod gantry for the express purpose of the capsuleer exiting his pod while in his ship.

It does limit control though.

werent those also stated as being excessively large, expensive, and difficult to put into MOST ships?

Eh. I love the idea myself. There is a crew (supposedly) on these ships. I have to assume they are moving about it, working, etc.

So to keep yourself in your jelly pod if you want to stay with concept, go with a little hoverbot that you can see through and interact with. Lets you have the views of the ship, or a Virtual quarters.

Will it ever happen? Doubtful. But I do like the idea and would love to see it. In particular when I am out on mining ops.

~Z

In particular when I am out on mining ops

particular ~ mining ops

mining ops

This is about the only time I could see such a feature being used, maybe level 1-3 missions and high sec exploration sites.
None the less for PvE and mining ops it would still be kinda cool.
What would happen if your ship was destroyed when you were on the bridge any way? Would you magically transport to your pod or wake up in station?

Christ... anywhere where we see a trailer or read a eve magasin or something like that, then we see a char. walking around even on a ship, so how can it be so hard to see release the char from that pod, that you DONT see... you DONT see a pod flying over to a huge window or screen and looking out in space. in one of the eve online trailers


it is completely wrong to say that we are all sitting in a pod and we can not get out of them,

hmm it must be char still dare not leave the womb ..

As mentioned earlier, EVE is ONLY a game and therefore it is possible to walk on a bridge ...

IF CCP sometime in the beginning had made the bridge you would never have thought about it, and when someone came and said that we all should live in jelly goo that tastes a spacecows, then it would probably be wrong, who would manage the ship or control the coffee shop when we had to sit in a pod like a jellybean

the idea is good, and for those who do not like, just turn it off.

No, the idea is NOT good, because it goes against established LORE.

I think he was referring to the "holographic avatar" idea. Which isn't against the lore at all.

I would be all for being able to view the inside of my ships (just the bridge would be cool to begin with) either with a holographic avatar while in flight or without crew in my actual body (I don't want to risk them killing me) while docked.

Some interaction with the crew (Talking to the quartermaster, being able to customize them, seeing the passengers in your cargo, etc.), would also be cool.

However I don't think coding this while in-flight would be feasible (if it is, I am all for it).

And I would much rather have walking in stations be done first. I would enjoy interacting with my fellow capsuleers in stations more than I would enjoy interacting with my NPC crew.

But this sounds like a cool project for the people working on walking on stations whenever that is finished.

There is no bridge, you're suspended in a pod filled with jelly.