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          KSUDruid 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 16:14:00 -
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            Originally by: Gungankllr
  Why does everyone hate Fountain so much? 
 
 
 
  I don't know about everyone else (well, actually I kind of do) but FA started the fight with the ASCN. And yes, our war is mutual now so you can't use the excuse of running out of cash to cancel it. 
  FA started this fight. We're going to make sure it gets finished.
  -Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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          MAXSuicide 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 16:23:00 -
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          have i *****d this thread yet? if not..OMGHI2UALL.
 
 
  My vids and random stuff
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          Ma'at 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 16:26:00 -
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            Originally by: KSUDruid
  FA started this fight. We're going to make sure it gets finished.
 
 
  lol how? unless your part in this war is keeping bob fuelled with tea and cake  
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          Abdalion 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 16:49:00 -
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            Originally by: Ma'at
   Originally by: KSUDruid
  FA started this fight. We're going to make sure it gets finished.
 
 
  lol how? unless your part in this war is keeping bob fuelled with tea and cake  
 
 
  I locked this post a while back, but it explains alot about this. 
  If you are going to play the part of a clueless alt, play it on your own corp forums. Your trolling isn't welcome here. 
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          CdCommander 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 16:54:00 -
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            Originally by: Abdalion
   Originally by: Ma'at
   Originally by: KSUDruid
  FA started this fight. We're going to make sure it gets finished.
 
 
  lol how? unless your part in this war is keeping bob fuelled with tea and cake  
 
 
  I locked this post a while back, but it explains alot about this. 
  If you are going to play the part of a clueless alt, play it on your own corp forums. Your trolling isn't welcome here. 
  Linkage
 
 
  Lol alt got OWNED by a forum mod, keep up it  
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          Dianabolic 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 17:01:00 -
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            Originally by: Ma'at
   Originally by: KSUDruid
  FA started this fight. We're going to make sure it gets finished.
 
 
  lol how? unless your part in this war is keeping bob fuelled with tea and cake  
 
 
  Something that you, and most certainly the fountain alliance, need to learn is - stop speaking for others, until you are capable of speaking for yourselves.
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          SageOfMystery 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 17:18:00 -
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            Originally by: Ma'at
   Originally by: Abdalion
   Originally by: Ma'at
  If you are going to play the part of a clueless alt, play it on your own corp forums. Your trolling isn't welcome here. 
  Linkage
 
 
  just because im not in a corp doesnt make me an alt. if any fa member wishes to make a complaint about abdalion's accusation, feel free 
  
 
 
  IMO the mods do a good job at keeping Posts locked, though there is a limited to the post's they can lock without a cause, you are just trolling so Stop and grow up. 
 
  As for the fa issue, I still have no idea why they deced Stain empire we still havent had a fight between us, now i dont think it would ever happen :(
 
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          Khaerie 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 17:19:00 -
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            Originally by: Gungankllr This isn't meant as a smart-assy post or anything, I really don't know the answer, hence why I'm asking. 
  Why does everyone hate Fountain so much? 
  I mean, I remember the BS in Delve where they said they claimed the area/stations but never bothered to send us any help when we were attacked, (Back in the CFS days) but other than that....
  Was there some big incidents or problems that caused FA to get so many people shooting at them?
 
 
  I can only really say why on my part by what I witnessed.
  Fountain decided to jump in on a war that was not their business. When they were spanked they declared on Stain. Then they came looking for a NAP.
  This was all done in a 48 hour period.
  I guess they hoped that we'd just say, "Okay, we forgive you for trying to bring your battleships to our space to attack us."
  We are not so inclined to do this.
 
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          Ma'at 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 17:37:00 -
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            Originally by: Amthrianius
  I reckon we should have a naming and shaming of this puppet here @:)
 
 
  Abdalion has my PERMISSION to reveal my fa character which he has accused me of being.
  im waiting oh so powerful one
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          Abdalion 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 18:15:00 -
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            Originally by: Ma'at  Abdalion has my PERMISSION to reveal my fa character which he has accused me of being.
  im waiting oh so powerful one
 
 
  I didn't point out that you were an FA alt, merely an alt. And, I happen to know that the corp you are in has a forum. 
  My point still stands. If you are going to use an alt on the forums, stop trolling with it.
  That is also more than enough discussion of moderation. Feel free to email [email protected] with your comments/questions. --
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          Abdalion 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 18:20:00 -
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          Let's get back on topic. 
  And for a hint, Moderation isn't the topic. --
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          F'nog 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 18:49:00 -
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          All I know is why ASCN doesn't like FA. And that's simply because of Tornsoul's arrogance. He tried to dictate to us what our relationship to SE, long-standing friends and good neighbors btw. We said, and he made a bunch of empty threats, like declaring on us, and coming to wipe our alliance off the face of Eve. 
  Our alliance has yet to have a civil, diplomatic conversation with Tornsoul, and until we do, we won't even think of respecting them.
 
 
 
   Originally by: Morela
  "hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"
 
 
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          Dell 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 19:29:00 -
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            Originally by: Darken Two
   Originally by: Dell
   Originally by: Darken Two
   Originally by: Dianabolic
   Originally by: Darken Two
   Originally by: Dianabolic
   Originally by: Darken Two OMG if you BoB guys are winning, what is the need to ridicule FA on the forums?
 
 
  Because we feel like it.
 
 
   Wow thats some philosophy you got there. What you need next is a shrink.
 
 
  What you need next, Darken, is to join a corp that backs up your whoruming in-game. Otherwise, erm, yap yap.
 
 
  GODS where WTFBBQRED up north! please correct me if i am wrong ?
   GODS backup their talk quite well thank you. Atleast we dont need to nap 3/4 of the pvp community and then attack miners claiming how uber we are. 
 
 
 
 
 
   DIIIING !!! Wrong answer. You win the "NOOB of the day" award.
 
 
 
  Really? a noob, so what part of my statement was wrong? or are you going to come back with another side splitter DING! 
  RN Killboard
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          thelung187 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 19:50:00 -
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            Originally by: Wuubaa weakened by 12 months of war with rubra....
  its more like "amused by your attempts to gank shuttles in d4ku for 12 months"
  get over yourself, you used to proclaim how youd never stop fighting FA til they died. Get back in your box hypocrit. 
 
 
  signed. I don't know about the rest of you, but noobra ganking haulers does not equal 'omgwtfpvpexperience'. And having been a diplomat during the fa/cfs crisis (when i first got to know hicks, nez, avernus, etc.), hicks' post is 100% accurate.
 
  [ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something | 
      
      
      
          
          Rod Blaine 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:02:00 -
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          Hey guys, leave Darken alone, He's cool...just having fun.
  And Darken, I'm simply gonna ssume you know better then implying BoB is not able to kill off FA right. We did what could be done within game mechanics to PA, the main difference this time being that we don't intend to move out of the area once we've conquered it.
  As far as the hate for Fa goes. They are supremely arrogant without even the slightest ability to back it up. I know we are arrognat as well, but then again, we've been able to back it up every single time. _______________________________________________
  Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. | 
      
      
      
          
          Dyvim Slorm 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:07:00 -
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          I have to agree with thelung.
  I had a few good fights with old puggy in 3WE and Rubra were good at ganking the unwary without a doubt, but tbh never posed a threat to the point of weakening FA.
  At the time, most of us who were in FA in those days were glad they were there to relieve the tedium  
 
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          Lucian Alucard 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:30:00 -
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            Originally by: Darken Two OMG if you BoB guys are winning, what is the need to ridicule FA on the forums?
 
 
  Psychological warfare.Xan and BIG make enough money to easily absorb the losses of the entire alliance,BUT if you hound and ware down on the morale of an alliance you will start to see stress fisures start to form and eventually fall apart.
  If anyone knows this it should be us Northern guys.
 
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          dimensionZ 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:38:00 -
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            Originally by: Lucian Alucard
   Originally by: Darken Two OMG if you BoB guys are winning, what is the need to ridicule FA on the forums?
 
 
  Psychological warfare.Xan and BIG make enough money to easily absorb the losses of the entire alliance,BUT if you hound and ware down on the morale of an alliance you will start to see stress fisures start to form and eventually fall apart.
  If anyone knows this it should be us Northern guys.
 
 
  Thing is, its not really BIG & XAN that are losing ships  
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          Sochin 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:40:00 -
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          I can count the number of XAN guys I've seen in YZ on one hand I think. Same for BIG.
 
 
 
 
 
  Nemo me impune lacessit
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          Sun Ra 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:43:00 -
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          I think xana are playing other games... even their website doesnt feature eve much
  Glad im not up there, sounds dull, mite visit and wave a few times tho  
 
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          Uther Agnoius 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 20:54:00 -
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          You would think 2 corps (XAN&BIG) with over 130 members each could field a 30 man ship fleet to come and help out the people fighting in the core?
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          slip66 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 21:02:00 -
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          Edited by: slip66 on 17/07/2005 21:04:05 Edited by: slip66 on 17/07/2005 21:03:27 good job to the mods on this thread, not letting a alt try close it down. 
  It's a good read on how things are with FA atm. Is there a FA presecnce in SE or ASCN space or did the fighting happen/ing in empire?
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          Arador Del'rayth 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 21:14:00 -
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            Originally by: Lucian Alucard
   Originally by: Darken Two OMG if you BoB guys are winning, what is the need to ridicule FA on the forums?
 
 
  Psychological warfare.Xan and BIG make enough money to easily absorb the losses of the entire alliance,BUT if you hound and ware down on the morale of an alliance you will start to see stress fisures start to form and eventually fall apart.
  If anyone knows this it should be us Northern guys.
 
 
  Seriously, how many in here believe either of those two corps would compensate the actual fighting corps, that would take away from profits | 
      
      
      
          
          Dyvim Slorm 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 21:33:00 -
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          Edited by: Dyvim Slorm on 17/07/2005 21:34:30
   Originally by: Arador Del'rayth
 
  Seriously, how many in here believe either of those two corps would compensate the actual fighting corps, that would take away from profits
 
 
  Back in the days when mOo invaded (year and a half ago) XAN did give out free ship bpc's.
  Later on FA wouldn't even compensate their own FC's if they lost a ship. IIRC there was a ruling to compensate FC's, but it was easier getting blood out of a stone.
 
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          F'nog 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 21:50:00 -
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            Originally by: slip66 Edited by: slip66 on 17/07/2005 21:04:05 Edited by: slip66 on 17/07/2005 21:03:27 good job to the mods on this thread, not letting a alt try close it down. 
  It's a good read on how things are with FA atm. Is there a FA presecnce in SE or ASCN space or did the fighting happen/ing in empire?
 
 
  None yet in ASCN space. Don't know about SE.
 
 
 
   Originally by: Morela
  "hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"
 
 
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          KSUDruid 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 21:52:00 -
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            Originally by: slip66 Is there a FA presecnce in SE or ASCN space or did the fighting happen/ing in empire?
 
 
  That's actually the funniest part about this whole thing. FA claims they declared an (empire) war on us because we were letting stain use our space and they couldn't puruse without us shooting them. Yet not only are FA not in ASCN Space, they're not even in freaking empire. Save for when our pilots get bored of mining for our dread and freighter fleet, and we fly over to Hophib for a few hours, FA ARE NON EXISTANT. For Godsakes, our people are flying solo through empire in empty haulers just to TRY and goad an FA into attacking it. What's war coming to these days when someone else declares on you, and you gotta take the fight to them  
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          AvanCade 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 21:55:00 -
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            Originally by: Amthrianius [FA] should be renamed [HUN] as they are the only ones who really even attempt to protect the area, shame they dont have many numbers tho. And where are BIG and Xanadu and the rest of the old boys club? :/
  Respect for HUN then.
 
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          Chucky 
           
          
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          Edited by: Chucky on 17/07/2005 22:04:25
   Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
   Originally by: Gungankllr
  Why does everyone hate Fountain so much? 
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  Was there some big incidents or problems that caused FA to get so many people shooting at them?
 
 
  They are practically the richest alliance ingame, have the best region, and haven't got the lub yet other alliances have received.
 
 
 
  Thats pure bull$hit, I left FA without enough isk to cover my clone. You should have heard the discussions over dread BPO's. 
  FA is industial alliance that openly sells T2 to its enemies on the grounds it doesn't want to lose customers 
  As far as best region, its not high end strip raped if thats what you mean. Most 0.0 regions would be like fountain if the were managed properly. 
  But BoB roid *****every region they take over and move on. Don't believe me? check Delve 
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          Nathan Voughn 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 22:02:00 -
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            Originally by: corporal hicks
  *blabla*
 
 
 
  I am terribly sorry to blow your bubble. First of all, you were FA back then.
  For the FA there was never a doubt who would keep Querious. Sadly you deleted yourself from the shared bored between FIX and the FA command, otherwise you could still help your little grey cells remember and not be a victim of selective memory syndrome. A disease that spreads faster then light.
  The FA even asked FIX if they have plans to expand into PB or delve, as we finally had an ally next door who did something about the space they wanted. But at first FIX didnt even want to have full control about anything. FIX was in control of the area before CFS pulled their stunt; hence no one with more then 2 brain cells questioned your status. You will also remember that Querious didnt belong to FA space at all, as we never claimed it. BA, after they established their base of operation there, joined FA and the council gave BA full control over Queriouse region. BA then decided to support the formation of FIX and the FA council supported BA as agreed earlier. So please spare us all this "FA didnt want us to have our space", its getting old.
  The emergency council had members of EVEM, AFDT, BIG, Xan, 4s and i think BA(not sure on the last one). You should also know that it wasnt a vote for corps but of individuals. After months, AFDT merged into BIG and EVEM merged into Xan, 4s left.  In the council meeting around that time, i suggested to revote the e-team due to too much dominance of xan/big, Gurex (first EVEM, now Xan) stepped down to make room for new people. However FA council voted for a new structure and the e-team more or less lost its mandate. So.. seeing as you havent been present in the FA council meeting recently, i suggest you skip the "how can i make up things" part about it.
  When SE first launched a fleet to attack FIX, FA got word and sent a blob down into the gateway system. We told SE that FIX are our allies and that we cant have them attack FIX. We didnt engage, we just put our blob in the system between SE and FIX and waited. Parallel we did all we could to get someone from SE command to actually tell their cowboys to go home and take care of the cattle, which they did. Weeks later, SE tried again, this time FA didnt know about it and SE clashed into FIX. FA tried to settle it, but it was already clear that SE took an anti FA/FIX position as they supported corps to attack FA and engaged FIX themselves. We asked FIX many times, how to resolve this situation, but FIX made clear that its their homeland at stake and that they want to defend it themselves, without the help of outsiders. This way of thinking gave FIX the respect they have now. They managed to defend their space alone. Respect.
  And about the money making part... Xanadu runs an empire market system. We dont need any 0.0 space to keep it going. So please be so kind and tell me how we make money out of FA... ? Do you have any more glorious explanations like you posted so far?
  And to the usual Atuk trolls that normally show up after each of my posts: this post is not about you, go away.
 
 
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          Temi 
           
          
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        Posted - 2005.07.17 22:11:00 -
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          Edited by: Temi on 17/07/2005 22:14:43 nm :S Spelling errors ahoy.. | 
      
      
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