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Kurenin
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Posted - 2005.07.18 08:21:00 -
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This thread sucks eggs.
James and Deathwing are correct, the majority of the rest of you are kidding yourself. :/
ps. pistool sucks ;f ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2005.07.18 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Angelhunter And the last time you were in FA space trying to cause trouble you lost ships and pods in MN5N, we were greatly amused by that.
It's true, solo killing with a positive ratio against more than 1v1 odds is amusing. You should try it sometime. It takes a pair, though....
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.07.18 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Grimster on 18/07/2005 08:46:58
Originally by: Sochin You mean the fight in 3ZTV-V where we kicked your *posterior*, killing 7 battleships and only losing 1? .
Very cool fleet fight that harkened back to the days of FE/PA/BKG battles.
Impeccable leadership won the day though, as is blatantly obvious by the above link.
GG all I say, let's have more of it.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Angelhunter so whats the bottom line here?? FA is dead??
AGAIN!?
Depends on if it stays occupied. If it does stay occupied and their enemies choose to base there and make it their home, then FA as is currently known may cease to exist.
If the enemies move on, then FA likely will rebound. Only way I've seen alliances die in the past is one of two ways. The most common is for them to give up, internal fracturing; the only other way is to permanently invest yourselves in their prior space, gradually removing them from it.
Ah no, FA will decide if it lives or dies. Tonight they rallied a decent sized force only to see BoB log off
But keep reading the BoB BS, its great fiction
Hehe considering it was almost 4am in Europe and most of our players who where there, were from....you've guessed it EUROPE... OF COURSE we logged off to go to sleep, some of us have WORK you know -
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.07.18 10:39:00 -
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Good post baun. While many of the bits and facts you bring i support you should have left some of the heroic stuff out of it and maybe not trimmed down some facts to make yourself look better.
The chronology of the events you sum up sounds like they are following up on each other, sometimes even happening in the same moment. However this is a history lesson which works over prolly half a year or a year.
FA supported Norad on maybe 5-6 evenings with bigger fleets (in actual combat) im sure any suprm or votf pilot can support that.
Your fight with Shinra was pretty much "around the station" where you would come down and take it once or twice a day without leaving a size inplace. So it wasnt an "even battle until..."
Atuk attacked FA before RKK/BNC or Evol moved into Delve. We have been in core and not found many targets when a month later BoB moved into Delve.
Atuk lost the initial engagement when attacking FA as we choosed to risk it. Trading risk for fun, something FA had not done eversince in return.
Atuk never "outnumbered" FA in its coresystems and there were no mystery fleets fighting anywhere far from your homeland some virtual enemies. Infact any resistance in pb died once we invaded fountain however you were not able to find willing pilots to fight despite having 50 or 100 in alliancechat or in yz local.
The reasons why ppl left your alliance is moot to discuss there is the version you tell yourself to feel better and there is the version they tell themself or us to look better. Whats true or not lies in the eye of the beholder however i think we can agree to say both Finfleet and 4s were not uberly happy with how FA was when they left.
Apart from those small but imo important details a good post however. Im sad im too inactive to actually bother to fight you guys myself ;)
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Haematite
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Haematite on 18/07/2005 11:22:28
Quite a long post from Baun, but he never mentioned why Mafia are now on the Fa bandwaggon and fightin with them, not that its going to do much.
WTS: Lo3d3R Corpse
Ill let it go for the 30mil isk we got from it.
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Temi
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Posted - 2005.07.18 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim bla bla bla
hey focht, shut up and join irc for a change :s Spelling errors ahoy.. |
Skywalker
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Posted - 2005.07.18 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Skywalker on 18/07/2005 13:47:19
Originally by: Haematite Edited by: Haematite on 18/07/2005 11:22:28
Quite a long post from Baun, but he never mentioned why Mafia are now on the Fa bandwaggon and fightin with them, not that its going to do much.
WTS: Lo3d3R Corpse
Ill let it go for the 30mil isk we got from it.
We got bored that's why we had 2 members there We went into this fleet battle in battlecruisers, so it wasn't really planned, without access to FA teamspeak it was a really mess keeping track of everything...but still had some fun
We got the information that two pos:es where to be defended, that was probably the primary goal, and i guess it suceeded.
We had more people holding ground in the initial skirmish, so i am very surprised about that kill ratio you got there.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 18/07/2005 14:05:11
Quote: We got the information that two pos:es where to be defended, that was probably the primary goal, and i guess it suceeded.
I guess you "could" see it like that, however... it was waaay to late for most of us who where present from the BoB side (it was like 3/4am before we logged off as its Monday), so we left it at that, (for now) we are in no rush.
We where expecting round 2 from the FA fleet but they seemed to be staying put inside that POS...
Your surprised by the kill ratio??
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ponieus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Skywalker Edited by: Skywalker on 18/07/2005 13:47:19
Originally by: Haematite Edited by: Haematite on 18/07/2005 11:22:28
Quite a long post from Baun, but he never mentioned why Mafia are now on the Fa bandwaggon and fightin with them, not that its going to do much.
WTS: Lo3d3R Corpse
Ill let it go for the 30mil isk we got from it.
We got bored that's why we had 2 members there We went into this fleet battle in battlecruisers, so it wasn't really planned, without access to FA teamspeak it was a really mess keeping track of everything...but still had some fun
We got the information that two pos:es where to be defended, that was probably the primary goal, and i guess it suceeded.
We had more people holding ground in the initial skirmish, so i am very surprised about that kill ratio you got there.
yeah at the Beginning of the fight FA did hold there ground. Why wouldnt they when they outnumberd our BS's. Then the second half of our fleet warped in and FA retreated to there POS where they sat for hours. All in all it was a good fight. Wish the trailing fleet had gotten there sooner. Just wish FA would of stayed longer when our equalizing half of the fleet arrived. Would of made for a very nice battle. But anwyays yes the POS's stayed they got there fuel. But it did cost FA a chunk of the fleet to do so. Tis ok. Give it time.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:08:00 -
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Poneius I think the 2nd half of our fleet came in "on time"
But as you said, pity they ran off as we made the battle even -
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Don ZOLA
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius Edited by: Amthrianius on 18/07/2005 03:49:58
Originally by: General Killah Oh I guess FA died...AGAIN?!
Seriously all you are saying is "FA is dead." We've heard it a million and ten times, if I wanted to hear it again I'd talk to one of you.
An alliance never dies till it gives up.
Unlike Rome, FA cannot petition to get their ships moved to wherever they want when they get camped in ;)
Im sure BoB will finish the job :)
Oh and the old FA IS DEAD *AGAIN* replies are getting a bit boring dont you think? Isn't that the standard retort for all those FA alts+supporters. Just because we went on back to curse to form [5] doesnt mean FA didnt die. Lets examine the evidence from while ATUK+Shinra were at war with FA:
Corps to leave:
-Finfleet -JAZZ -S-44 -4S (+ others i cant remember atm)
These were the major military corps in the FA.......
FA is not what it was, it may not be dead because it has filled the pvpers places with 30man empire industry corps. But in reflection nice new region you have BoB :D
Oh and just for Sastul, get over yourself, dinosaurs are exstinct.
4S Leaving FA had nothing to do with war FA had with ATUK/Shinra, u can compare killboards and c that for urself, no reasons for us ( i was part of 4S at that time) to leave cuz of wars.
and whole this thread is omfg we allied all ppl who could oppose us and be a threat, and we go after much weaker targets and they dont want to fight us... sad tbh... it would be like me and bunch of my mates going into city looking to fight kids and whine why they run away....
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Reann Ni'shaang
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:36:00 -
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Heh-heh, the "even numbers" card again? It's funny how PvP oriented group which prides itself being one of the "best" is constantly complaining about "odds" or "local count" when they are fighting industrial alliance (or otherwise weaker foe, you pick what to call FA).
It's like... "Sorry, my five Navy Seals wont fight your farmers with pichforks because you outnumber us two to one..." Do you expect FA fighters all to consider themselves your equals in battlefield? That's quite a credit to give to them then...
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dracorimus Edited by: Dracorimus on 18/07/2005 14:11:33 Ponieus I think the 2nd half of our fleet came in "on time"
But as you said, pity they ran off as we made the battle even
We probably had the edge on you in battleship numbers for the first 5 minutes allright, but you sitting with tacklers on the gate meant you basically had your first 3-4 targets down no matter what would happen later. Not that it is anything but sound tactics from your side, but we knew that we were going to lose ships immediately. When the rest of your fleet arrived we were actually outnumbered in battleships and support, and when the order was given to warp out you got the last stragglers or maybe the unfortunate fellow that was just warping back to the battle.
Anyways, we showed up in decent numbers and the POS'es stayed alive, in gang chat I hear that this was some peoples first fleet battle, so I think we can be somewhat satisfied as well.
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ponieus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Reann Ni'shaang Heh-heh, the "even numbers" card again? It's funny how PvP oriented group which prides itself being one of the "best" is constantly complaining about "odds" or "local count" when they are fighting industrial alliance (or otherwise weaker foe, you pick what to call FA).
It's like... "Sorry, my five Navy Seals wont fight your farmers with pichforks because you outnumber us two to one..." Do you expect FA fighters all to consider themselves your equals in battlefield? That's quite a credit to give to them then...
you have a point if we did NOT engage when we were outnumberd but we did. Almost 2 to 1 on BS counts. Then came in the second half of the fleet. I call the equlaizing half. But like I said before yes FA did rally enough numbers to save their POS.. The battle yesterday was about the second best fight we had from FA. The first being the HUN fight. Great respect to these guys. Fighting outnumberd and still coming back not twice but 3 times.. It was a pleasure to fight the HUN guys. Probally the most fun thus so far in the fight agianst FA..
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Coug
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:49:00 -
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Quote: it was waaay to late for most of us who where present from the BoB side (it was like 3/4am before we logged off as its Monday), so we left it at that, (for now) we are in no rush.
BoB historically launches full scale attacks/invasions against Fountain on American Holiday's, and you try and belittle them about time of day? You've got no legs to stand on that argument I'm afraid.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Coug
Quote: it was waaay to late for most of us who where present from the BoB side (it was like 3/4am before we logged off as its Monday), so we left it at that, (for now) we are in no rush.
BoB historically launches full scale attacks/invasions against Fountain on American Holiday's, and you try and belittle them about time of day? You've got no legs to stand on that argument I'm afraid.
Lol, sorry, but, to be honest, we never planned our attack to coincide with some holidays. Hell, tis even a good thing for FA, holidays : more ppl at home.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:59:00 -
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Indeed the HUN guys fought very well and LEEROY'ed it up, so big shout out to them for that...
More of the same tonight I hope from FA as we aren't going anywhere...are you?
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Coug
Quote: it was waaay to late for most of us who where present from the BoB side (it was like 3/4am before we logged off as its Monday), so we left it at that, (for now) we are in no rush.
BoB historically launches full scale attacks/invasions against Fountain on American Holiday's, and you try and belittle them about time of day? You've got no legs to stand on that argument I'm afraid.
Im at a loss to see your point. Logging because you have work in 4 hours....and the fact that Bob attacked on a holiday when people arent at work? OK!!ONE!!!1!1!...not to mention the fact it was patch day the day after. Do shut up plz.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Skywalker
We got the information that two pos:es where to be defended, that was probably the primary goal, and i guess it suceeded.
This is where eve goes waaaay beyond any other game.
We both had different tactical goals on the night, we both achieved them and, most importantly, had fun in the process.
It was good getting a fleet battle again (I was there on my alt not dbp) and look forward to more.
The numbers in the battle is a moot point tbh, regardless of what you came with, we would have stood and fought and we knew that if we equalised the numbers, you would have to pull out. Who cares, just keep coming.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 18/07/2005 15:10:34
Originally by: Coug
Quote: it was waaay to late for most of us who where present from the BoB side (it was like 3/4am before we logged off as its Monday), so we left it at that, (for now) we are in no rush.
BoB historically launches full scale attacks/invasions against Fountain on American Holiday's, and you try and belittle them about time of day? You've got no legs to stand on that argument I'm afraid.
What are you talking about? I'm talking about the battle last night/morning nothing to do with 4th July.....
Besides as you say its an American Holiday so no one works....
I'm talking about Monday 18th July, Today, Work for all of BoB's Euro crew who were present ("LAST NIGHT") in response to the dude that mentioned we all logged, when it was 3 or 4AM euro time, which of course we did as we have work to go to...
How bout that for a pair of legs to stand on
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Coug
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:11:00 -
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Haloween and Fourth of July are both holiday's where people go out rather than stay in, both were nights in which BoB launched their attacks on Fountain. I wasn't there for the most recent, but I do know that for the Haloween attack of last year, when the US crew got online after our Real Life activities - the story had already been written.
The point, because you all missed it, was that Fountain leveraging real life time elements against you, is not tactics that haven't been used by you against them. So waiting you out to cause your EU people to go to bed was a good call, and a tit for tat.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:16:00 -
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amazing...how boring is that? -
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Coug
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:18:00 -
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Not my tactic any more, guerilla warfare > blobs > boredom.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Coug Haloween
Erm not only americans have haloween you know
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Coug Haloween and Fourth of July are both holiday's where people go out rather than stay in, both were nights in which BoB launched their attacks on Fountain. I wasn't there for the most recent, but I do know that for the Haloween attack of last year, when the US crew got online after our Real Life activities - the story had already been written.
Dude.
This is the stats for the 4th of July: 4th of July
We killed the same more ships yesterday in one engagement than during the whole of the 4th of July so you there was no launch of attack on fountain then. We had been here for a lot longer than that (oh and we were in PA space last 4th of July).
As for Halloween, if no-one was playing then how did we manage to kill 27 battleships? 27 BS is a fleet in itself.
So no.
Just no.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.07.18 16:06:00 -
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"look at me i like to think that only americans have holidays atm"
well your wrong most of europe is on holiday so um yeah...
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.07.18 16:35:00 -
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tbh 3ztv or whatever, was utter **** ;|
We were told to 'get in our biggest ship'. Not 'get in your biggest and baddest sniper, we're going to fleetbattle'. I was in arma with pulses and couldnt be arsed to swap to poc or tempest. Then we jumped in on a bunch of tacklers, with hostiles on 80-100km and probably at the very least a third of us not being able to hit for crap.
oh well got to gank a ferox that safespotted and went afk anyway :> ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.07.18 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
oh well got to gank a ferox that safespotted and went afk anyway :>
I'll swap that for your 7 BS's and countless support anyday.
Cheers for the fight anyway.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.18 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: dabster We were told to 'get in our biggest ship'. Not 'get in your biggest and baddest sniper, we're going to fleetbattle'.
Given the fact that you guys (fa in general, not necessarily hirr corp) are fans of warping to cov ops that are.... wait for it... 200km (yes, 200,000meters!) away and CAN'T EVEN HIT US (right click your guns, attributes, optimal range is your friend ) I don't think you can comment on the fact we sat at 80km for you to jump in.
That's the great thing about pos's, you *have* to defend them or we're gonna take them off you.
We've found your trigger now boys, it's a good thing you've got lots of isk - you're gonna need.
wts: Strontium.
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