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Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.07.17 15:13:00 -
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Lost two Megathrons. So much going on at that last level I was never really able to figure out what was warp scrambling me. Any ideas
120 million lost in one night. That translates to about 40 hours mining for me. Not sure if I am gonna do it. <---- obscure threat to quit,,, but most likely wont.
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Stanis
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Posted - 2005.07.17 15:36:00 -
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PPl why dont you just use www.eve-i.com ?
Its the cruisers. Gisti depredators or something like that. They have 7.5km scrambler.
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Daolin
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Posted - 2005.07.17 15:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Stanis
PPl why dont you just use www.eve-i.com ?
Its the cruisers. Gisti depredators or something like that. They have 7.5km scrambler.
Nonsense. In deadspace missions, only elite frigs can web and scramble.
In case of Angel missions, those are Arch Angel Viper, Arch Angel Webifier, and all Arch Gistii frigates. (In case of spy stash, it's usually Arch Gistii Raiders, although the rats in the mission may be somewhat random).
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Stanis
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:26:00 -
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Ok, you are obviously clueless. Stfu pls.
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Ryy Kishin
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Stanis
Ok, you are obviously clueless. Stfu pls.
The mark of intellegence 
If the cruisers web then how come on the exact same mission im popping them at 60k away but yet the ones that are close which are the frigs are theone with the webbers? Oh Just did the mission less than 5 min ago..
Hmmmmm so you might want to re-think who is clueless.
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Daedroes
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:51:00 -
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I've never been webbed by depredators, or any cruiser for that matter, in a DS mission.
But yea, that mission is tough. Lost a few ships myself.
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Stanis
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:07:00 -
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I never said they web...I said they SCRAMBLE.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/crowley/page/page_objectexplorer.php?id=959
check this link pls and see if the Gistum Depredator cruiser isn't warp scrambling. Thx.
Also, you can see here every ship, and can find if they scramble or not.
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Stanis
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:08:00 -
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And yea, my intelegence is greater than your's but that's not the point.
The point is that you are TOO IGNORANT to check on the site I gave you, and see that I'm right. I was trying to help a guy, and got some lameass**** about me being stupid.
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MineallMine
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: MineallMine on 19/07/2005 23:31:36
Originally by: Stanis
And yea, my intelegence is greater than your's but that's not the point.
The point is that you are TOO IGNORANT to check on the site I gave you, and see that I'm right. I was trying to help a guy, and got some lameass**** about me being stupid.
Besides needing to work on your people skills, you should brush up on your eve-i skills as well.
The scrambler on this mission in the Arch Gistii Raider, and, per eve-i, it scrambles at 20km. You gave the wrong advice. You blindly trusted Eve-i without any knowledge of the particular mission. And most of all, you did it in a rude and immature manner.
[ 2005.07.08 06:49:04 ] (notify) Arch Gistii Raider has started trying to warp scramble you.
Do us all a favor and crawl back under the rock you came from.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:35:00 -
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Stanis, the cruisers never warp scramble. You see alot of ships on that list with the ABILITY TO warp scramble, but they never do. Think before typing please.
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Daolin
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Posted - 2005.07.20 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Stanis
And yea, my intelegence is greater than your's but that's not the point.
The point is that you are TOO IGNORANT to check on the site I gave you, and see that I'm right. I was trying to help a guy, and got some lameass**** about me being stupid.
If something on a third party website, that is known to be full of errors anyway, contradicts everything I experienced ingame in missions (and I've run a lot of missions, believe me), then I'd rather trust my own eyes, kthxbye 
Hint: EVE\capture\gamelogs\
If something scrambles you, it leaves a log entry. Try to find any entry of a Depredator scrambling you 
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Posted - 2005.07.20 08:50:00 -
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Kadarin
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Posted - 2005.07.20 09:09:00 -
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Are you referring to a lvl 3 version of this mission, or lvl 4? (I don't think I've ever seen it in lvl 4, but I did the lvl 3 Guristas version today in a megathron, easily.)
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Vernichtungsengel
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Posted - 2005.07.20 09:37:00 -
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using a bs on lvl 3 is overkill anyways ^^
Vernichtungsengel - 'Angel Of Death'
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Scorpi'o
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Posted - 2005.07.20 11:28:00 -
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It's the ceptors, not cruisers. I just did one, so I know for shure.
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fatboymicro
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Posted - 2005.07.20 12:11:00 -
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Wot? I'd rather power hose my patio to clean it rather than take to it with a scrubbing brush. Less effort, less time.
For example, if I *know* I can do a mission in a ferox in 3 hours but I also know that I can do it in 1.5 hours in a (insert fave BS here) then I'd choose to do it in the BS unless I had a lot of time to kill and wanted a bigger challenge.
Regardless of the flaming I get for this both doing this and not fitting into the all too common macho image associated with being leet by using just the right ship and coming out with less structure points than sense, I'm going to continue to use the proverbial sledgehammer to break the nut unless then sledge breaks. And it has done. Many times. But my Ferry never does. BS dies? Use the Ferox until I can afford a new one.
And I just *so* like using sledges...
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Vernichtungsengel
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Posted - 2005.07.20 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: fatboymicro
Wot? I'd rather power hose my patio to clean it rather than take to it with a scrubbing brush. Less effort, less time.
For example, if I *know* I can do a mission in a ferox in 3 hours but I also know that I can do it in 1.5 hours in a (insert fave BS here) then I'd choose to do it in the BS unless I had a lot of time to kill and wanted a bigger challenge.
Regardless of the flaming I get for this both doing this and not fitting into the all too common macho image associated with being leet by using just the right ship and coming out with less structure points than sense, I'm going to continue to use the proverbial sledgehammer to break the nut unless then sledge breaks. And it has done. Many times. But my Ferry never does. BS dies? Use the Ferox until I can afford a new one.
And I just *so* like using sledges...
Overkill ftw.
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
Vernichtungsengel - 'Angel Of Death'
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Daolin
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Posted - 2005.07.20 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
I sincerely doubt that. No offense, but you just don't have the damage output to do it in the same time.
Take an AF, do Angel Extravaganza level 3, tell me how long you need
I used to do it in 35 mins in my pre patch Raven, and currently need about 50 mins in my Vagabond. (without bonus level and picking up loot)
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2005.07.20 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Daolin
Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
I sincerely doubt that. No offense, but you just don't have the damage output to do it in the same time.
Take an AF, do Angel Extravaganza level 3, tell me how long you need
I used to do it in 35 mins in my pre patch Raven, and currently need about 50 mins in my Vagabond. (without bonus level and picking up loot)
Takes me 40m in a maller.
Bigger means slower in addition to more firepower.
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Stanis
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Posted - 2005.07.20 15:46:00 -
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Hmm, I always kill those cruisers first, and never got warpscrambled in that mission after I kill them. That's all I am saying.
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MineallMine
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Posted - 2005.07.20 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Daolin
Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
I sincerely doubt that. No offense, but you just don't have the damage output to do it in the same time.
Take an AF, do Angel Extravaganza level 3, tell me how long you need
[ 2005.07.17 03:08:12 ] (combat) Gistii Ambusher lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage.
[ 2005.07.17 05:21:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 150mm Light AutoCannon II hits Terzam Tazzon, doing 20.8 damage.
That's 2:15 in a Wolf. First shot to last shot, and I took out some structures in between. I had to warp out of the last stage to refit for the dual Vipers (need a webber for that), while I was there I forgot to reload on ammo and was about 50 rounds short so I had to make another trip back for that. If I hadn't been a retard it would have been a 70-80 minute affair.
50 mins in a Vaga seems about right, but I'd be suprised if you can get under an hour in a BS anymore.
Plus, doing it in an AF is more fun to me than a BS.
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Avrunath
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:47:00 -
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I cant believe you Guys are explaining on how big your balls are.
There is somone asking you a question.
I do this mission in a Dom.
I have fitted 6 250mm Prototype Gauss Guns and *yummy* a lot of drones.
I use Med Drones for the frigs.
I think its the last group in the 1st tier that took your Mega down.
I cant really answer your question, because i load my guns with longrange ammo and take the frigs out b4 they get even 1 hit at me, so no scrambling.
The second tier was always harder for me, and there are no scramblers, from the top of my head.
Im still nooby with my skills, because i went for Learning and Industry first, so i think you should do the job better than me.
But i heard of some guys havin problems with a Mega.
Or simply use a dom, as you are gallente anyways.
Hope this helps you.
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ManOfHonor
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Posted - 2005.07.21 14:03:00 -
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ok, lets stop the bickering
heres the solution-
Kill EVERYTHING within 20km of your ship
its not that hard, and it solves the problem
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2005.07.21 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Daolin
Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
I sincerely doubt that. No offense, but you just don't have the damage output to do it in the same time.
Take an AF, do Angel Extravaganza level 3, tell me how long you need
I used to do it in 35 mins in my pre patch Raven, and currently need about 50 mins in my Vagabond. (without bonus level and picking up loot)
Ive been doing lev 3 and parts of lev4 missions today in a harpy, its may take a little longer but its much more fun, and nothing can really hit you much. Damn upsurpers tank too much for harpy though so I have to fetch my bs for them and others of the same difficulty. Most bs go down easy though 
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Okoru
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Posted - 2005.07.22 09:50:00 -
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Never been scrambled by the cruisers... only got scrambled by inties... 
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Thor Darkwing
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Posted - 2005.07.22 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Daolin
Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
I sincerely doubt that. No offense, but you just don't have the damage output to do it in the same time.
Take an AF, do Angel Extravaganza level 3, tell me how long you need
I used to do it in 35 mins in my pre patch Raven, and currently need about 50 mins in my Vagabond. (without bonus level and picking up loot)
how can you do the mission faster in a BS those slow moving wothless peaces of crap for lvl3 mis... oh.. you did mean without loot=)
heh, anyways, try a ishtar, lovley ship, goes really fast to do the missions. super heavy tank, so just aggro everything -> go take a glas of milk or something :D -> when all ships are swarming you at a nice loot collecting range just release the 14-15 heavy drones
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.07.22 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
AF's do the job in the same time as a BS.
LOL, just the drone bay on my Phoon puts out more firepower than any AF. Not to mention that heavy drones move faster than AFs on AB  . Of course I also have the addded firepower of 4x 720 IIs and 4x XT-9000 Cruise on my Phoon which moves at 500m/s+. If you find yourself completing Lvl3s faster in an AF, it just means your skills as a BS pilot are lacking
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Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.08.13 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Vernichtungsengel
using a bs on lvl 3 is overkill anyways ^^
Overkill?!? If by 'overkill' you mean 'loosing 2 battleships is overkill' then you are right.
I think I would have been better off in a Dreadnaught.
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Aeesha
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:24:00 -
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Assuming the angel version:
2 frigs you meet when you activate the first gate can scramble.
2 frigs on 2nd tier can scramble (arch something).
Now.. just because you havent gotten scrambled by these does not mean they cant scramble you, sometimes they do, sometimes they dont. At their worst you get scrambled with strength 2 (both of those on tier1 or those on tier 2).
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.08.13 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: sableye on 13/08/2005 23:02:07
I have'nt been scrambled bya cruiser in such a long time, they used to though way back when I was a noob, although I am sure perhaps some of them zzamatar's (the named one;s) scramble still, but I have been webbed by soem cruisers in missions.
I really don't see how you can lose a mega though on this mission as drones can take out any of the frigs easily
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