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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:47:00 -
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Who cares? Oh my god, one group holds a lot of isk. how does that really impact you? For myself, I still make ample profit of te invention and manufacturing of t2 mods. Sure my mods use moon goo to make. I buy the stuff I need in jita, and even undercutting the lowest pric on the market, I make a good profit. I can pew, lose ships, and still stash isk for a rainy day.
So really, where are the moon goo monopolies hurting you?
Also, what makes you think that if the monopolies were dispersed, you woukd profit next? The same groups, along with the other high sec industrialist would take over and not some lone individual. If your path to profitability requires control of a tech moon, you are doing it wrong.
And why no hatred of t3 wormhole monopolies. Those too are controlled by large groups, yet you aren't arguing to nerf them. Fave it, this just a bandwagon you are jumping on. Why not spend as much effort researching alternative ways to make isk. With just as much effort, you'll find plenty of isk and not have to worry about moon goo. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4357
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:47:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:anyway can anyone recommend any good xbox games, at least i can pay for something and get what i want out of it. do they still make game genie for consoles like xbox because otherwise you're going to be pretty disappointed you don't get handed everything in those games either when you are unskilled and useless |
Nemo deBlanc
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
32
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:47:00 -
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Such a terribly boring and obvious troll, am I seriously the only one seeing it? |
Alice Saki
29384
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:48:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Alice Saki wrote:Weaselior wrote:Alice Saki wrote:Hey goonies can I haz some Isk... I like playing Blink too much :D just convo random people looking for a corp, offer to sponsor them into goonswarm, and charge the standard 500m deposit you'd think it wouldn't work because you're not in goonswarm but you severely overestimate the intelligence of eve players Wait I have to login?! Oh Gawd. you could always just use the forum evemail system during the ice interdiction one of our members made billions selling permits just by evemailing people through the forums that he saw on killmails, didn't login once
Not bad... I need to try something... I'm losing alot of Isk Gambling I lack any Moral Fiber :D |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution. Paper Tigers.
107
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:50:00 -
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Nemo deBlanc wrote:Such a terribly boring and obvious troll, am I seriously the only one seeing it?
pot calling kettle? thats all i am seeing.
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Abrazzar
715
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:50:00 -
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Say, have the moon goo mechanics ever changed since their inception? I only remember goo being shuffled around and alchemy added but nothing done to the moon harvesting itself. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
9
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:51:00 -
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Want shake up Eve, allow high sec moon mining. Otherwise as peeps said get tons of friends and blow stuff up |
Malik Doom
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:51:00 -
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What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2961
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:51:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:Want shake up Eve, allow high sec moon mining. Otherwise as peeps said get tons of friends and blow stuff up shake up eve by removing another reason for people to ship up and fight
shake up eve not afk up eve |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution. Paper Tigers.
107
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:52:00 -
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Malik Doom wrote:What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it.
locked why?
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2961
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:52:00 -
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Malik Doom wrote:What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it. npc corp |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
942
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:52:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP (actually Soundwave) made comments quite a few months ago about altering the moon goo faucet to an active scanning/harvesting mechanic. I believe that comment was meant to calm the chorus of voices protesting this broken game mechanic. By saying "we are looking into it", is a standard political ploy.
However, given the fact that we have heard virtually nothing about this since then from CCP, and the CSM notes made no mention of it, you can rest assured it won't be changing. Looking at this in the most charitable way, the major power blocs have convinced CCP that it is in the best interests of the game to let the power blocs maintain a stranglehold on the most valuable resources.
Why CCP believes them is a very interesting question.
The fact that CCP hasn't changed it after many years of complaint can only mean one thing: They want it this way. I can see why. It facilitates the big fights, the big ships and promotes the ingame RMT trade......as well as the out of game RMT trade but, noone really talks about that. And I dare say that the majority of CCP's RMT income comes from people in null. So then, why would CCP change it?
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:53:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Malik Doom wrote:What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it. npc corp implying npc corps aren't purely awesome. tip: they are. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2961
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:53:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Malik Doom wrote:What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it. npc corp implying npc corps aren't purely awesome. tip: they are. ban npc corps, that'll shake up eve |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2961
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:54:00 -
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thread status: saved |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4357
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:54:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote: The fact that CCP hasn't changed it after many years of complaint can only mean one thing: They want it this way. I can see why. It facilitates the big fights, the big ships and promotes the ingame RMT trade......as well as the out of game RMT trade but, noone really talks about that. And I dare say that the majority of CCP's RMT income comes from people in null. So then, why would CCP change it?
rmt is funded by bots and 4 of every 5 bots is in empire
that's a cold hard fact straight from CCP, the forge alone has more bots than all of 0.0 put together |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
1204
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:55:00 -
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The solution is simple, anyone can do it.
All you have to do is create a really successful corp, lead so well that people will follow you to the gates of hell, create an alliance, fill it with strong corporations, build a capital fleet to support your already strong subcap fleets, bring in corporations that are willing to risk supercapitals on the field to realize your vision. Invade nullsec using your superior tactics, power projection and logistics capability. Put trust in dozens of leaders loyal to you, give them the tools and the support necessary to keep control of an empire. Help your people rise to power, help them with srf's brought with the blood and sweat of their comrades, paid for with long hours of logistics pilots who do little else but look after pos's, the proceeds of which go straight to the pilots losing their ships for you on the frontline, Spend tens of billions of isk on your initial setup costs once you have some sovereign space, spend weeks of game time in diplomacy with likeminded alliances and form a coalition. Make that coalition loyal and strike at any and all opposition to your empire, crushing attack after attack after attack. Keep your people satisfied with content and a community to have fun in. Keep those people loyal through the good and the bad times, mark your place in Eves history.
It all starts with just YOU.
If you havn't put the monumental amount of time, effort and heartache into creating something great in Eve, then you have absolutely zero right to suggest CCP do anything to take it away from the people who have. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:56:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Kate stark wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Malik Doom wrote:What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it. npc corp implying npc corps aren't purely awesome. tip: they are. ban npc corps, that'll shake up eve that's actually the best reason i've seen for removing npc corps rather than this made up crap about "people avoiding pvp/wardecs/etc"
simply remove them for the reason of ******* **** up. i like that idea. that's an idea i could get behind if i didn't love my tax free wardec immune little safety blanket. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2961
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:00:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Kate stark wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Malik Doom wrote:What no lock yet?
And Weaselior I am disappointed your comebacks are usually better that. Come on, you can do it. npc corp implying npc corps aren't purely awesome. tip: they are. ban npc corps, that'll shake up eve that's actually the best reason i've seen for removing npc corps rather than this made up crap about "people avoiding pvp/wardecs/etc" simply remove them for the reason of ******* **** up. i like that idea. that's an idea i could get behind if i didn't love my tax free wardec immune little safety blanket. Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players. |
Kaethe Kollwitz
34
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:03:00 -
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T2 materials should be spread around the moons of eve online in the same way PI goods are:
high sec barely profitable low sec not bad null sec excellent
nothing much changes but there is a lot more opportunity for combat.
personally I would like to see it randomly move around in some sort of gas cloud to create varied focal points for combat throughout the galaxy. 1. THIS IS NOT AN ALLIANCE!!-á - 2. FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY
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Eastman Color
Natural Progression
6
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:04:00 -
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Why don't you reinforce their pos, then hide when they come to fix it. Then do it again and again and again and again so it's not profitable. Then when they start showing up to defend it every time it gets shot at, start turning up, firing a few shots, then hiding. Then randomly reinforce it when they don't show up to fix it? I'm pretty sure after a while they'll either just let you have it or offer to pay you x per month to not do what you're doing. I'd much rather have isk sent to me each month than have to deal with a pos and selling goo. |
Malik Doom
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:04:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Mr Kidd wrote: The fact that CCP hasn't changed it after many years of complaint can only mean one thing: They want it this way. I can see why. It facilitates the big fights, the big ships and promotes the ingame RMT trade......as well as the out of game RMT trade but, noone really talks about that. And I dare say that the majority of CCP's RMT income comes from people in null. So then, why would CCP change it?
rmt is funded by bots and 4 of every 5 bots are in empire that's a cold hard fact straight from CCP, the forge alone has more bots than all of 0.0 put together
Bots do not equal RMT
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Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:04:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players.
actually, removing npc corps wouldn't improve game play for me at all. i'd just be vulnerable to war decs with no useful compensation for that. |
Kaethe Kollwitz
34
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:05:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players.
had to quote this.
I understand what you are saying but the end point of this chain of events is less players.
Im not saying this is a good or bad thing, just stating a fact.
also does every thread in GD have to get hijacked by this anti-NPC corp stuff? Could you not keep it to a couple of threads? 1. THIS IS NOT AN ALLIANCE!!-á - 2. FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY
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Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:07:00 -
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Kaethe Kollwitz wrote:Could you not keep it to a couple of threads?
the exact same could be asked about the original topic of this thread, in fact, i'd wager there's more threads on moon goo than there is on removing npc corps. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2962
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:11:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players. actually, removing npc corps wouldn't improve game play for me at all. i'd just be vulnerable to war decs with no useful compensation for that. So would everyone else, passing on additional costs you might incur to the consumer and upping the minimal level of risk any player might incur while playing the game. You making decisions as a result of emergent content is more gameplay, ultimately making EVE a more satisfying game for all involved. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2962
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:13:00 -
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Eastman Color wrote:Why don't you reinforce their pos, then hide when they come to fix it. Then do it again and again and again and again so it's not profitable. Then when they start showing up to defend it every time it gets shot at, start turning up, firing a few shots, then hiding. Then randomly reinforce it when they don't show up to fix it? I'm pretty sure after a while they'll either just let you have it or offer to pay you x per month to not do what you're doing. I'd much rather have isk sent to me each month than have to deal with a pos and selling goo. taking out a neo moon = impossible for small solo players CCP hellllpppp |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4357
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:16:00 -
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Malik Doom wrote: Bots do not equal RMT
i realize this is a mr. random thread and it is expected it will be filled with wrong things but you can really leave posting the obviously wrong things to him, he don't need no help |
Kaethe Kollwitz
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:17:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Kaethe Kollwitz wrote:Could you not keep it to a couple of threads? the exact same could be asked about the original topic of this thread, in fact, i'd wager there's more threads on moon goo than there is on removing npc corps.
says the player in an NPC corp. oh the irony 1. THIS IS NOT AN ALLIANCE!!-á - 2. FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY
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Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:18:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Kate stark wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players. actually, removing npc corps wouldn't improve game play for me at all. i'd just be vulnerable to war decs with no useful compensation for that. So would everyone else, passing on additional costs you might incur to the consumer and upping the minimal level of risk any player might incur while playing the game. You making decisions as a result of emergent content is more gameplay, ultimately making EVE a more satisfying game for all involved.
not really, i'd just unsub my accounts than be "a fish in a barrel". i pass on my additional costs to the market, prices go up, i've still got the same purchasing power except now i also have more money going out replacing ships because i'm losing them to wardecs, or i've got less coming in because i'm not undocking during a wardec.
if i'm making less isk and i'm unable to buy a plex, i'm not putting my hand in my wallet for a sub. i'll just let the account lapse while i play steam games until people get bored of wardecing me. |
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