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Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.02.07 19:03:00 -
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came in expecting a thread that was complaining about how you can use grid and sleeper ai to harvest the larger clouds in the high end sites with out any sleepers pwning your ship. was not expecting a nerf a venture thread.. also you may want to take a look at tech 3 hull prices and movement before you scream falling prices are the ventures fault :p |
Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.02.07 21:06:00 -
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from your initial post and based on the speed of teh venture it really sounded like you were complaining about the ship and not the fact that sleeper AI is bugged. also to the gentleman who said once they agress they are fixed and will pop you at 250km .. that's not accurate there are a couple "reset methods" out there ... that said personally I just clear them as it takes about 10 minutes and is worth 60-80 million isk |
Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:29:00 -
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Marsan wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote:Marsan wrote:How exact is the venture worse than a cruiser with a few warp stabs? It mines a little faster to be sure, but by that logic we'd be all still be mining in cruisers. The venture has a ton of advantages when compared to cruisers, starting from being harder to scan down due to smaller signature and the possibility of fitting ECCM to make it even harder, they are also much faster and as such you can orbit the clouds to make getting warpins directly to you much more difficult. On top of that the clouds themselves uncloak everything that tries to sneak up on you on grid and if that's not enough, you'll have a vastly improved alignment speed and as a frigate, getting a lock on you takes more time than it does to lock a cruiser. And it's not just a little faster, it's the fastest gas harvester in the game when properly trained. - I can fit ECCM on my cruiser too. Not to mention you are an idiot if you use combat to scan down gas miners. Use dscan to narrow things down and scan down the bloody site with core probes in a single quick scan. - If clouds are uncloaking you need to reconsider how you hunt gassers. - A smart miner is either orbiting or aligned with an AB or MW It sounds like you just miss idiots jet can mining at a dead stop.
not true
with the way you ninja mine you are almost always standing still on the cloud and the rats are at the warp in. so either need to combat them or spend probably 20 minutes avoiding clouds and the sleepers to get close enough to them for tackle if you just scan down the site .. at which point if you don't have 3 points of tackle they just align and warp out :p heck if you are in anything but a bomber they will probably be warped out before you get the cloak no lock timer to wear off :p The ventures are a very purpose built ship, and they do what they were designed to do very well .. best bet ... bubble their return hole then spook them .. gets most gas suckers .... 90% of the time |
Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.02.14 19:30:00 -
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DJ P0N-3 wrote:VegasMirage wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:Even outside of C5's, us lowsec scrublords are raising cash due to the parlous state of the FW LP store, via blitzing ladars. With 2-3 Ventures hitting the same cloud, you can alpha-suck the expensive gas from a Ladar site before the sleepers spawn; you can turn over 4 ladars in an hour for about 30-40M. Which isn't great, but it isn't bad for an alt if you have an egg timer and warp out when the sleepers spawn.
i see no problem with this. if the wormhole is empty, the ladar is available, and you have the time and spare toon to do it, a Venture alt is a reasonable investment. Off topic a bit, but why haven't drug booster prices dropped if gas harvesting is so popular now? Perhaps there's more risk in low sec, but you're based there I'd think your guys would eat that stuff up at 20-40 million a site. Don't lowsec clouds do Venture-destroying damage waves? Or am I completely off base?
though i have not mined low sec gas in ages. yes the low and null gass clouds do some damage when you mine from them |
Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:03:00 -
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Havoc Zealot wrote:Confirming that sleepers aggro 140km in an instrumental after being properly set up. yup looks like CCP finaly fixed it, and hey look at that c320 prices bounced back a little lol |
Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.02.28 21:00:00 -
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There is still a very easy way to do these, needs further fixing i guess |
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