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whisk	Posted - 2005.07.18 16:10:00 - [31] Hmmmmmmm, i wonder if TS has noticed that all FA pilots have been recalled to core, so the point of empire wars right now? On another point, why even start on se and ascn in the first place when you've got bob next door and know they want to do nothing more than see FA burn?
Shiwan Khan	Posted - 2005.07.18 20:31:00 - [32] Originally by: skilz http://www.killboard.net See: FA This post is about FA vs SA, what does this have to do with bob in any way? Go stroke your ego someplace else. 2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage.
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2005.07.19 01:19:00 - [33] Originally by: TornSoul War got cancelled - Expected reason : Unpaid bills. I've been gone since tuesday (been down with the flu) - But I still find it weird that the bills would 'time out' this fast, as I'm pretty sure all bills where paid at the time. On trying to redeclare on SE I get this Quote: "You can not declare war on them as you are already at war with them." I'll give it a few more days - To see if it sorts itself out - Before petitioning it. does this mean your bringing a fleet? if not why bother....
Drokar Gazer	Posted - 2005.07.19 13:45:00 - [34] Who is FA ? Somehow i think i heard of them before, so i decided to check our ASCN war report, says we are at war with FA, but I have never seen them. Do they play on Sisi? Wish they would come out and play. No sense in wasting a good war dec. Funny though that ur war with us didnt get bugged. Feel free to actually log in from time to time, we all miss you(r pods). Hope u feel better, it seems contageous though, might want to send out a alliance mail suggesting everyone in FA see's a doctor. Im getting worried.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2005.07.19 15:12:00 - [35] Originally by: Shiwan Khan Originally by: skilz http://www.killboard.net See: FA This post is about FA vs SA, what does this have to do with bob in any way? Go stroke your ego someplace else. What it has to do with BOB is we are currently occupying pretty much all of FA space and them declaring on SE and others makes no sense when they have us smacking em all over the place in what they call "their core". - http://www.killboard.net/?p=pilot&n=Dracorimus
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.07.19 16:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Shiwan Khan Originally by: skilz http://www.killboard.net See: FA This post is about FA vs SA, what does this have to do with bob in any way? Go stroke your ego someplace else. What an odd thing to say, when you have: 2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. In your signature.
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2005.07.19 17:13:00 - [37] its Stain Empire not SA
Thesiuss	Posted - 2005.07.19 17:38:00 - [38] Originally by: TornSoul I've been gone since tuesday (been down with the flu) Wishing you well and a sqeedy recover TornSoul. Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
Balthoruz	Posted - 2005.07.19 20:17:00 - [39] Originally by: skilz http://www.killboard.net See: FA You mean there? http://www.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Fountain%20Alliance FOUNTAIN ALLIANCE CORPS Corps (38) Kills (1212) Losses (4816) 1:4 ratio clapclap*
Sochin	Posted - 2005.07.19 20:20:00 - [40] Originally by: Balthoruz Originally by: skilz http://www.killboard.net See: FA You mean there? http://www.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Fountain%20Alliance FOUNTAIN ALLIANCE CORPS Corps (38) Kills (1212) Losses (4816) 1:4 ratio clapclap* You idiot, that means FA has 1212 kills and 4819 losses, not us. Nemo me impune lacessit
Just Smith	Posted - 2005.07.19 21:08:00 - [41] well as everyone else is posting here i thought i might as well. Well you've come to the right place, then. There hasn't been a war run this badly since Olaf the hairy, King of all the vikings, ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Kingpenn	Posted - 2005.07.21 05:26:00 - [42] what really happened....
Static Ga'lraith	Posted - 2005.07.21 06:02:00 - [43] Dude... you draw extremely well :) -
Shr3k	Posted - 2005.07.21 15:14:00 - [44] really cant see why the war was renewed, the pilots that did fight withdrew after a beating, most of FA are using alt corps to play now, FIX stand by doing nothing because even they know FA are dead & if they help they would go the same way.FA spend miilions on contracts to send fighters to gank SE & i'll bet this war declaration is ended by concord because the bill isnt paid AGAIN :)
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.07.21 15:17:00 - [45] Originally by: Kingpenn what really happened.... ROFL that so didnt turn out like i thought it would ------------------ Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.07.21 15:32:00 - [46] Edited by: Nez Perces on 21/07/2005 15:39:11 Originally by: Shr3k really cant see why the war was renewed, the pilots that did fight withdrew after a beating, most of FA are using alt corps to play now, FIX stand by doing nothing because even they know FA are dead & if they help they would go the same way. Unfortunately the chain of events in respect to FIX, that you describe here do not match the real chain of events.... allow me to enlighten you.... FIX <> FA have a historical blue on blue standing. \| \| FIX <> BoB slug it out over a couple of months when BoB first come to the south. \| \| FA stands by and watches BoB devour the PB and Delve regions. \| \| FIX and BoB find a mutual respect after months of some of the most fun fighting ever. FIX and BoB decide that infact blue on blue would better describe how they feel about eachother. \| \| FIX then attacks Coalition just because....the war ends in a stalemate when Coalition rejoin SE. \| \| BoB attacks FA core with the intention of annihilating them \| \| FIX has FA still at blue, and BoB at blue. FA remains blue because they haven't really done anything to upset us, plus we dont really believe in kicking people when they are down. \| \| FIX doesnt shoot blue entities. Hence BoB <> FA conflict is none of our business. And we never had the intention of it being so. This chain of events should set you straight.
Shr3k	Posted - 2005.07.21 15:47:00 - [47] FIX doesnt shoot blue entities. ummmm yes you do, weve had corp people shot at even though our corp has a +5.1 standing, the feeling was & will be returned. I hope the diplomats work something out as weve always had very good relations with FIX as a corp & we still have mutual enemies to fight, but thanks for the reply, ive been put right :)
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.07.21 16:03:00 - [48] Edited by: Nez Perces on 21/07/2005 16:05:36 For specific diplomatic incidents you may want to go visit here ...FIX Forums and diplomatic Contacts and then make the appropriate contacts. Eve-online forums are seldom the best way to solve things satisfactorily.
Khaerie	Posted - 2005.07.21 17:25:00 - [49] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 21/07/2005 16:05:36 For specific diplomatic incidents you may want to go visit here ...FIX Forums and diplomatic Contacts and then make the appropriate contacts. Eve-online forums are seldom the best way to solve things satisfactorily. I can only assume that your news article was from ages ago as it sure didn't happen when we were talking. 2nd in Command for Stain Empire Foreign Affairs CEO
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.07.21 19:11:00 - [50] Originally by: Khaerie I can only assume that your news article was from ages ago as it sure didn't happen when we were talking. ehem.. yes. the news article is about 5 months old... ? definitely needs updating...
Angelhunter	Posted - 2005.07.21 20:09:00 - [51] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 21/07/2005 15:39:11 Originally by: Shr3k really cant see why the war was renewed, the pilots that did fight withdrew after a beating, most of FA are using alt corps to play now, FIX stand by doing nothing because even they know FA are dead & if they help they would go the same way. Unfortunately the chain of events in respect to FIX, that you describe here do not match the real chain of events.... allow me to enlighten you.... FIX <> FA have a historical blue on blue standing. \| \| FIX <> BoB slug it out over a couple of months when BoB first come to the south. \| \| FA stands by and watches BoB devour the PB and Delve regions. \| \| FIX and BoB find a mutual respect after months of some of the most fun fighting ever. FIX and BoB decide that infact blue on blue would better describe how they feel about eachother. \| \| FIX then attacks Coalition just because....the war ends in a stalemate when Coalition rejoin SE. \| \| BoB attacks FA core with the intention of annihilating them \| \| FIX has FA still at blue, and BoB at blue. FA remains blue because they haven't really done anything to upset us, plus we dont really believe in kicking people when they are down. \| \| FIX doesnt shoot blue entities. Hence BoB <> FA conflict is none of our business. And we never had the intention of it being so. This chain of events should set you straight. Nez, i respect you, but half of that is a load of lies man. FA did not stand by and watch BoB devour Delve and PB, they fought as much as they could, when they could. DMGI and a couple other corps had joint fleet engagements with FIX against BoB around the NOL area, and on several occasions DMGI + friends flew into FIX space to help your fleets with pests. DOn't sit here and act like We stood by and did nothing when we were fighting for every bit of ground we had, maybe if you would have kept fighting BoB wth the forces that FA had instead of Kissing their asses on the forum and in game, and finally NAP'ing with themBoB wouldn;t even be in delve right now. YOU need to get YOUR facts straight, we fought, and we helped you guys fight. this is mine and my opinion alone, any statements i make do not reflect those of the VC or Damage Industries, if you have a problem with it, i am not hard to find ---------------
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.07.21 20:41:00 - [52] Dear Angelhunter, Is it not a fair assesment to say that FA claimed more space than it could possibly defend in declaring ownership of Delve and PB? Is it not a fair assesment to suggest that FIX was under no obligation whatsoever to fight for Delve or PB as we did not claim the regions in question and had no stake in them whatsoever? Your assesment as to how much FA fought or didn't fight to keep Delve and PB is your prerrogative to make. I simply stated that wether intentionally or not FA lost control of PB and Delve, 2 regions which FIX did not claim. FIX was under no obligation to assist FA in retaining its claim. FIX's assesment of the loss of Delve and PB to BoB by FA is that FA didn't do nearly enough to retain those regions, it is our prerrogative to state this. Bottom line is that the current FA <> BoB conflict is non of FIX's business. That was basically the message contained in my post. The itsy bitsy details or the wording you wish to focus on are besides the point.
Zangief Suikoi	Posted - 2005.07.21 21:24:00 - [53] Angelhunter, Quote: If your mother and father start to go at it which do you beat up first? Im not sure about your household but in FIX's we dont. We have respect for both alliances and even VC. But it is none of our business to say who is right or wrong. We only have love for both entities...mother and father. Ofc you'll take it out of context and prolly mention if FA and Bob are mother and fathers to FIX. Who's thumb does fix suck on.
Angelhunter	Posted - 2005.07.21 22:06:00 - [54] Originally by: Zangief Suikoi Angelhunter, Quote: If your mother and father start to go at it which do you beat up first? Im not sure about your household but in FIX's we dont. We have respect for both alliances and even VC. But it is none of our business to say who is right or wrong. We only have love for both entities...mother and father. Ofc you'll take it out of context and prolly mention if FA and Bob are mother and fathers to FIX. Who's thumb does fix suck on. I understand exactly what point you are trying to make, and i will not take anything out of context. The Point i was trying to make is that Nez is trying to make FIX look like they did all the work and FA sat back and did nothing, which is not true. I have alot of pride, when i was in DMGI, when i was CEO of DMGI, when i was a Member of the Fountain Alliance, i was always proud to be there. We fought very long and very hard for an Alliance that probably didn;t care much about us, so when someone tries to make it out that we sat on the sidelines and did nothing, it quite frankly ****es me off. There are still alot of proud people in the Fountain Region who are still trying to fight with what they can, i know, i still have alot of friends there, and i am just sick of all the band wagon jumping, BoB ass kissing, anti-FA sentimism that has been on this forum lately. If any of you want to talk to me about how things happened, feel free to convo or eve-mail me. Or you can believe everything you read on the forums. I know the people i have fought and fight with know how i am , and what i am about, i'll take a beating and keep on fighting, i'll take a loss and replace it anew, i'll fight 1v1, or against the odds, but one thing i will not tolerate is when people twist facts and history that i was apart of and on the frontlines of. ---------------
Zangief Suikoi	Posted - 2005.07.21 22:16:00 - [55] Angelhunter, Signed. If we've read it on the internet (forums) it _might_ be true. We hate it when rumors, false speculations, accusations, proganda fly around too. Having said that, I, personally, apologize if we have in any way offended you. I do appreciate your cooler head prevaling. I welcome you, in return, to visit our forums if you'd like to share your story or hear ours. FA has fought hard and long. No point denying that. Regards,
Zangief Suikoi	Posted - 2005.07.21 22:18:00 - [56] Sorry for the hi-jacking. We return you back to the regularly scheduled flaming.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.07.21 22:24:00 - [57] Originally by: whisk On another point, why even start on se and ascn in the first place when you've got bob next door and know they want to do nothing more than see FA burn? We tried to determine the logic of this ourselves but had to give up after too many of our members had aneurisms. Originally by: Morela "hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"
Rick Dentill	Posted - 2005.07.22 11:38:00 - [58] Originally by: TornSoul What part of my post was arrogant????? Maybe its a cultural difference or something.... ------- Or... It's excactly another example of what I pointed out in my post... Did it strike to close to home for you? (rethorical question - No need to answer this part) hmm it did not read as arrogant to me. Exacerbated, frustrated, bemused, annoyed,ironic tone perhaps, all spring to mind. _______ Save me Jebus! http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/dd.php
Marc Jade	Posted - 2005.07.23 08:22:00 - [59] Originally by: skilz http://www.killboard.net See: FA I like how that's a BoB website... Though, kudos goes to the design of it, swell layout :)
Stratego	Posted - 2005.07.23 09:49:00 - [60] Originally by: TornSoul War got cancelled - Expected reason : Unpaid bills. I've been gone since tuesday (been down with the flu) - But I still find it weird that the bills would 'time out' this fast, as I'm pretty sure all bills where paid at the time. On trying to redeclare on SE I get this Quote: "You can not declare war on them as you are already at war with them." I'll give it a few more days - To see if it sorts itself out - Before petitioning it. Honestly, dosnt FA have more problems in Core than having to get more in empire aswell? :) BOB are BOB 5 are BOB and together we make BOOBIE5.

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