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Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:46:00 - [31] I tried to look up Google for nice image made on top of WoW UI where is tons of chinese people and they are all named "Goldfarmer"'s. That image just popped to my head while reading this topic. Personally I don't mind who plays this game, just keep ingame language to english and characters western ... _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions. "I troll, therefor I am!" //\\ Suomi-Finland-Perkele asennetta!
Fester Addams	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Avon This is awful news... ... I don't even know how to say "Yarr" in Chinese. HELP! Im going to go out on a limb here but I think the correct way to say "Yarr" to the chinese in eve will be... ... ... Yarr
Daolin	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Avon This is awful news... ... I don't even know how to say "Yarr" in Chinese. HELP! "Yall".
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:56:00 - [34] I don't think my post deserved deletion... Anyways, I hope EVE expands to this market & the game grows. I also hope CCP continues it's hardline stance against farming in-game currency & selling it for RL currency. Maybe we'll finally see the 24,000 simultaneous players the DEV's were talkling about at release... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
Novacain	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:56:00 - [35] Edited by: Novacain on 18/07/2005 11:57:27 Originally by: Dred 'Morte Originally by: Bhaal They will band together, make one great big alliance, and rule EVE... You watch... Good! Then all the West players will band together, make one great big alliance of alliances, and go to war with the chinese! Then with 1000 ships fighting, we will melt a server nod! A banding together of chinese/asian players in one huge collective might only be latent if one views them as such. Fostering the premise for 'them' to do the same. Or is that just a bunch of jibberish?
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:59:00 - [36] At the CCP event in Copenhagen about half a year ago CCP told us: They have been planning to open up EVE for the asian market but will do so very different from other MMO's and even the spirit of EVE. That big chunk of space that's unhabited will be opened up exclusively for the asian market and with an entirely new race with new mods/ships/skills etc. Then after leaving them by themselves not connected to the rest of EVE for about 6 months they'll open it up to the rest of the universe .... I personally like that idea ALOT, it will make the asians get to know EVE without us vets being there to pod them all the time from the get go and also shift the political landscape once the space is opened up. EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha)
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.18 12:06:00 - [37] Quote: At the CCP event in Copenhagen about half a year ago CCP told us: They have been planning to open up EVE for the asian market but will do so very different from other MMO's and even the spirit of EVE. That big chunk of space that's unhabited will be opened up exclusively for the asian market and with an entirely new race with new mods/ships/skills etc. Then after leaving them by themselves not connected to the rest of EVE for about 6 months they'll open it up to the rest of the universe .... I personally like that idea ALOT, it will make the asians get to know EVE without us vets being there to pod them all the time from the get go and also shift the political landscape once the space is opened up. Wow, that sounds like some kind of special treatment to me... I think doing it that way would cause some resentment, and there could possibly be retaliation after the 6 months was up... It could get ugly... It could be very interesting if done that way ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.18 12:11:00 - [38] You missed the point. If you open up for the asian market and they are included in the current space two things will happen - we'll be having ALOT more whiners than usual and CCP will have less asian customers because they get pwned doing anything. This way they leave a chunk of space for the Asian to grow in with entirely different ships, mods, pirates, ore etc. - once the space is opened up there will be an influx of old school EVE players who wants to go there but the Asians have had time to have their own wars, own alliances etc. - for the political landscape in EVE it's the right way to go. I can just imagine the day it's opened up - imagine the war That's something I wanna be there for to participate in myself EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha)
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.18 12:19:00 - [39] Quote: I can just imagine the day it's opened up - imagine the war I didn't miss the point You can bet there would be a massive build up of forces b4 that patch, and then an Invasion of the "special" EVE players that have been by themselves for 6 months... It does sound like fun though... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.18 12:39:00 - [40] The missing point was for the guy who posted before you Bhaal EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha)

Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2005.07.18 12:49:00 - [41] Let CCP invest a lot more in servers and whatever stuff they need to keep everything running, cause I assume when the Asian market is opened up in full, we'll get pwned by lag and server crashed a lot more then now... ------------------------------------------ Follower of the Blood Revolution. Sani Sabik.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.07.18 12:52:00 - [42] Originally by: Drilla You missed the point. If you open up for the asian market and they are included in the current space two things will happen - we'll be having ALOT more whiners than usual and CCP will have less asian customers because they get pwned doing anything. This way they leave a chunk of space for the Asian to grow in with entirely different ships, mods, pirates, ore etc. - once the space is opened up there will be an influx of old school EVE players who wants to go there but the Asians have had time to have their own wars, own alliances etc. - for the political landscape in EVE it's the right way to go. I can just imagine the day it's opened up - imagine the war That's something I wanna be there for to participate in myself That sounds suspiciously like sharding to me. Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:05:00 - [43] Quote: That sounds suspiciously like sharding to me. Agreed, which I suspect would cause resentment & a backlash when the new shard is integrated into the old... Lots of conflict, bad blood, and frozen corpes littering the opened up space. Where do I sign up? ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
Zandramus	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:08:00 - [44] Originally by: Drilla You missed the point. If you open up for the asian market and they are included in the current space two things will happen - we'll be having ALOT more whiners than usual and CCP will have less asian customers because they get pwned doing anything. This way they leave a chunk of space for the Asian to grow in with entirely different ships, mods, pirates, ore etc. - once the space is opened up there will be an influx of old school EVE players who wants to go there but the Asians have had time to have their own wars, own alliances etc. - for the political landscape in EVE it's the right way to go. I can just imagine the day it's opened up - imagine the war That's something I wanna be there for to participate in myself TBH I could see this as a way to get more people to stick with the game, basically you do this by having like a start date where everyone new joins the game within a week or 2's time they all start in a portioned of section of space that is closed to the rest of us. They play for a couple of months in this protective partition and when the time limit is up gates are added that allow travel to the rest of the universe. this would do two things. 1) it would allow new players to get a foot hold in the game without being outclassed by long term players. 2) it would add new areas to the game as the universe grew. this would not be like sharding the game , it would be like easing people into the game with other people that all start at roughly the same time. This way you wouldnt have new guys being griefed by seasoned vets in some empire war corporation. This also would deal with the complaints that new people cant catch up as a few months of training time would allow them to get some decent skills trained as well as get a feel for the game before they came into the general populace. Just a thought Zandramus Homeless And Clueless S.A.S
Tarm	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:11:00 - [45] Jove space anyone? Personally, If I were chinese and I knew there were 20,000+ people on the "outside" waiting to kick our butts in 6 months time I would be preparing like mad for the war. I think it would be fun. -------------------
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Zandramus 1) it would allow new players to get a foot hold in the game without being outclassed by long term players. 2) it would add new areas to the game as the universe grew. this would not be like sharding the game , it would be like easing people into the game with other people that all start at roughly the same time. This way you wouldnt have new guys being griefed by seasoned vets in some empire war corporation. This also would deal with the complaints that new people cant catch up as a few months of training time would allow them to get some decent skills trained as well as get a feel for the game before they came into the general populace. Just a thought We already have a system that does this. It's called staying in high sec space in a starter corp. Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:14:00 - [47] Actually the good part would be that if they got their own cutoff region, they would form factions and fight there, meaning when they get integrated with the rest of eve, they wont all group up. It wont be an us vs them. It will be a mix and thats surely good. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!! In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable) "This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
Darkwolf	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Darken Two they wont all group up. It wont be an us vs them. You're making the assumption they won't just all gang up on the common, non-Chinese speaking enemy. And then turn on each other again once said enemy is gone, of course.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:21:00 - [49] Originally by: Darkwolf Originally by: Darken Two they wont all group up. It wont be an us vs them. You're making the assumption they won't just all gang up on the common, non-Chinese speaking enemy. And then turn on each other again once said enemy is gone, of course. But then we have a head start sp wise plus lots and lots of experince fightin. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!! In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable) "This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:33:00 - [50] I was recently told that there are bils of isk on ebay with occasions of 1bil=$300. Given the amount of isk I have, and the fact that this amount of isk is EASILY acquired if you try hard... errr... I can go for a yearly vacation on this isk XD But seriously, there are many countries were the $3-5k is enough money to put you on easy street for years. It's a terrible dillemma. Originally by: Oveur I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.

Blind Fear	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:50:00 - [51] Advertise to asian markets and you will have to spend every extra dollar you gain in subscriptions on GMs. Large asian populations are notorious for macroing and ebaying on unbelievable scales. CCP has been completely unable to make even the slightest dent in the eBay problem (banning a few accounts now and then nonwithstanding), and marketing to asian markets will increase the issue by orders of magnitude.
locus 777	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:58:00 - [52] The reactions to this post border on xenophobic. I really wonder which world some of you live in. What are the first reactions: seperate servers, e-bay scams, 'interracial' war. Truely amazing
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:59:00 - [53] Quote: Advertise to asian markets and you will have to spend every extra dollar you gain in subscriptions on GMs. Large asian populations are notorious for macroing and ebaying on unbelievable scales. CCP has been completely unable to make even the slightest dent in the eBay problem (banning a few accounts now and then nonwithstanding), and marketing to asian markets will increase the issue by orders of magnitude. Completely argee... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
Blind Fear	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:05:00 - [54] Since apparently discussing why it is needed is unacceptable, let me ask a very simple straightfoward question. Will CCP be expanding the GM staff to the point of being able to handle a large influx of people?
Matthew	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:08:00 - [55] Originally by: Blind Fear Also, the servers are running near the redline during peak populations now, I'm not sure how they expect to handle a population that much larger) I've seen no evidence that we're nearing the redline - certainly nothing even approaching what we saw the last time that happened. The only load issues I've seen are the hugely crowded hub systems like jita....and even with 250+ in it last night, the lag was barely noticable. Players Ego resistances. EM 0%, Therm 0%, Kin 0%, Exp 0%, reality 100%.
Blind Fear	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:11:00 - [56] Originally by: Matthew Originally by: Blind Fear Also, the servers are running near the redline during peak populations now, I'm not sure how they expect to handle a population that much larger) I've seen no evidence that we're nearing the redline - certainly nothing even approaching what we saw the last time that happened. The only load issues I've seen are the hugely crowded hub systems like jita....and even with 250+ in it last night, the lag was barely noticable. Fair enough. The massive lag and system crashes have been eliminated, but on peak times I know that I tend to experience some small-to-midlevel lag. That's what suggusts to me that the servers may be better capable of handling the strain, but that theyre still under a certain amount of pressure.
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:19:00 - [57] Originally by: Demetrius Carnigie Did noone see the article on "gaming sweatshops" where Asian people are paid a pittance to farm ingame money via macros and sploits, so that their bosses can sell it over the internet and live the life of luxury, what does CCP intend to stop this. And you are thinking this doesn't happen now? The fact is that such Isk/Gold/whatever farming relies on lots of lazy rich western buyers, and not "Chinese" farmers. Advertising this game will not increase such farming, because most of the people who run the sweat shops are westerners and would have already heard of EVE. What keeps EVE relatively free of such things is because it has a small playerbase. And the fact that we have one game universe. CCP can't ignore the problem because it is only affecting a few shards like most other MMO companies do. That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure.
Matthew	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Blind Fear Fair enough. The massive lag and system crashes have been eliminated, but on peak times I know that I tend to experience some small-to-midlevel lag. That's what suggusts to me that the servers may be better capable of handling the strain, but that theyre still under a certain amount of pressure. The trick with eve's clustered server model is that it handles some types of load a lot better than others. If you spread all the players out across all the systems in an optimal fashion, the server could probably handle 20k+ players at the very least. The problem comes when player distribution becomes "lumpy". If you tried to cram every player in eve into 1 system, the server would crash before you got to 1k players. This is because 1 system can never take up more than one node on the server. Of course, getting the existing player base to spread out is a huge challenge - they have a lot tying them to where they are now. Assets, agent standings, instas etc all discourage relocation. Getting new players to fill in the currently sparse regions would be comparatively easy, and would allow the servers to absorb a fairly large number of new players without a huge increase in lag. Players Ego resistances. EM 0%, Therm 0%, Kin 0%, Exp 0%, reality 100%.
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:25:00 - [59] Hey that website says they employ a master chef! Damnit! I'm going to yarr their office --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:31:00 - [60] Originally by: Novacain Originally by: Dred 'Morte Originally by: Bhaal They will band together, make one great big alliance, and rule EVE... You watch... Good! Then all the West players will band together, make one great big alliance of alliances, and go to war with the chinese! Then with 1000 ships fighting, we will melt a server nod! A banding together of chinese/asian players in one huge collective might only be latent if one views them as such. Fostering the premise for 'them' to do the same. Or is that just a bunch of jibberish? Yeah seriously. Could people be more ignorant? Yeah I can just see the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc all working together to defeat the westerners. As there is no historical rivalries and hatred between neighbouring countries That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure.



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