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Taqis
Black Wormholes of Apocrypha TOGETHER WE STAND
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:04:00 -
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heard it from a mate, and just wondering if this is an acceptable practice :
- list a character for sale, mention the hugely expensive HG slave and crystal clones you have ( rule 6 of character transfers : you can mention the implants ). Do NOT mention they are in deep nullsec, in a station whose owner does not accept new corp members or has a corp where you cannot join because you dont speak taiwanese etc. - anyways, somewhere where you cannot ( or it is REALLY difficult and risky to ) take them out anymore.
- jump into the inexpensive clone you have in hisec. Mention the "location the character is in hisec" ( rule 22 of character transfers states you have to mention the location ).
Get a good price considering the clones implants.
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SegaPhoenix
BREAKING-POINT Primal Force
126
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:05:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread
See rule number 17 |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
447
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:06:00 -
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Technically not scamming, because the implants are still there, so they are still paying a proper price for everything. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2604
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:07:00 -
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SegaPhoenix wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread
See rule number 17
I think the point is that this is not a Scam.
The character is exactly as advertised.
Now I've just got something to remember to ask next time I buy a character. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Taqis
Black Wormholes of Apocrypha TOGETHER WE STAND
0
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:08:00 -
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SegaPhoenix wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread See rule number 17
yeah, the question is does this qualify as a "scam" ? How do you tell a scam from a "not my fault you didnt ask" - situation ? |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
786
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:15:00 -
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you should make a petition and ask a gm
but i wouldn't screw around otherwise, some eve rules are enforced as to the spirit of the rule as opposed to the letter, and i reckon non-game-mechanic things like character transfers sound like they fall into that category |
Ai Shun
857
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:23:00 -
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Taqis wrote:Get a good price considering the clones implants.
This sounds a bit like sending yourself 100,000 ISK and promising yourself you'll double it; then keeping it instead. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
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GM Lelouch
Game Masters C C P Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:49:00 -
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Don't do this. Thanks in advance! Best regards, Lead GM Lelouch EVE Online Customer Support |
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
540
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Posted - 2013.02.08 10:10:00 -
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GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this.
I like that naughty strabismus in your look
Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++ |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2701
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:08:00 -
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Taqis wrote:heard it from a mate, and just wondering if this is an acceptable practice :
- list a character for sale, mention the hugely expensive HG slave and crystal clones you have ( rule 6 of character transfers : you can mention the implants ). Do NOT mention they are in deep nullsec, in a station whose owner does not accept new corp members or has a corp where you cannot join because you dont speak taiwanese etc. - anyways, somewhere where you cannot ( or it is REALLY difficult and risky to ) take them out anymore.
- jump into the inexpensive clone you have in hisec. Mention the "location the character is in hisec" ( rule 22 of character transfers states you have to mention the location ).
Get a good price considering the clones implants. I can't believe that you don't see the obvious there.
You tell him you have implants. It's obvious that it's implied that the implants are in the current clone. There is no reason to believe otherwise ! ... and there's the catch already, because then returning "you didn't ask if they were in the current, active, clone" makes you look like an ass.
There is *no* way nobody can see that you intentionally were trying to screw the person. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2013.02.08 12:17:00 -
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You realise that people have more than one set of implants, right?
Anyway, not really a scam. There's nothing to gain from doing it besides tears. So just ask where the clone is. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
740
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Posted - 2013.02.08 12:38:00 -
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I don't see the big issue, nothing stops you from jumping to that clone and undocking.
If you are afraid of losing your implants then get someone to sell you a ship via contracts locally.
People generally don't anchor bubbles on their home station's undock and you should be able to undock safely just after downtime (or whenever else the system is empty for a minute or two).
Have an alt bring you a covops or t3 if you couldn't buy one locally and give it to your expensive clone at a safespot.
Lots of fuzz about nothing. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2703
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Posted - 2013.02.08 12:47:00 -
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Polly Oxford wrote:You realise that people have more than one set of implants, right?
Anyway, not really a scam. There's nothing to gain from doing it besides tears. So just ask where the clone is. The point! The clone with the implants is in a station in territory which has a high chance of losing said clone as soon as he undocks! Furthermore, the buyer didnt actually get what he paid for! A clone with implants in highsec!
Saying "he didnt ask" is bullshit. The buyer was *mislead*!
The buyer now feels screwed and spreads the word! Its bad for character trading business as a whole, especially considering that CCP takes that part of their income pretty seriously... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
4
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:01:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:The clone with the implants is in a station in territory which has a high chance of losing said clone as soon as he undocks!
You would probably be able to get a GM to move you to hi-sec if you explained the situation.
Solstice Project wrote:Its bad for character trading business as a whole, especially considering that CCP takes that part of their income pretty seriously.
Scamming and eve do go hand in hand, but so does RMT and trading characters. Being able to sell characters legally using a reliable service, is a good thing. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2703
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:11:00 -
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Dante Uisen wrote:Solstice Project wrote:The clone with the implants is in a station in territory which has a high chance of losing said clone as soon as he undocks! You would probably be able to get a GM to move you to hi-sec if you explained the situation. Solstice Project wrote:Its bad for character trading business as a whole, especially considering that CCP takes that part of their income pretty seriously. Scamming and eve do go hand in hand, but so does RMT and trading characters. Being able to sell characters legally using a reliable service, is a good thing. I agree with relocation. Scamming in chartrades is a nogo though, as CCP says.
The buyer is being mislead and that will hurt business, especially because CCP forbids chartradescams. Now try feeling how the buyer feels, with the added belief that CCP guarantees that chartrades are legit business.
Its no good, no matter how the seller tries to rationalize it. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:14:00 -
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If seller still live on the faraway nullsec where are the expensives implants, he could track the guy and be ready to get a nice pod kill when he try to get out (or tell friends they should check this guy). Would someone says getting a kill with billions in implants is "nothing" ? |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:20:00 -
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Tanaka Aiko wrote:If seller still live on the faraway nullsec where are the expensives implants, he could track the guy and be ready to get a nice pod kill when he try to get out (or tell friends they should check this guy). Would someone says getting a kill with billions in implants is "nothing" ?
I would say it is nothing. I never quite understood the fascination with kill mails. To each his own I suppose :-) |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2703
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:31:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:Tanaka Aiko wrote:If seller still live on the faraway nullsec where are the expensives implants, he could track the guy and be ready to get a nice pod kill when he try to get out (or tell friends they should check this guy). Would someone says getting a kill with billions in implants is "nothing" ? I would say it is nothing. I never quite understood the fascination with kill mails. To each his own I suppose :-) Of course you say that, because you ignore the context. You would feel different if it was you getting screwed. (no, of course not... right?) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
4
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:35:00 -
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Tanaka Aiko wrote:Would someone says getting a kill with billions in implants is "nothing" ?
While it would be a lot easier to get the kill in null, it would also be possible in hi-sec, the key element is that you know the character has the implants. |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:44:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Jason Xado wrote:Tanaka Aiko wrote:If seller still live on the faraway nullsec where are the expensives implants, he could track the guy and be ready to get a nice pod kill when he try to get out (or tell friends they should check this guy). Would someone says getting a kill with billions in implants is "nothing" ? I would say it is nothing. I never quite understood the fascination with kill mails. To each his own I suppose :-) Of course you say that, because you ignore the context. You would feel different if it was you getting screwed. (no, of course not... right?)
My apologies I think I didn't say that clearly. What I mean is the kill would be nothing for the scammer as a kill mail has no value, in my opinion. It certainly would be something for the other guy. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse. |
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
634
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:47:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:The buyer is being mislead and that will hurt business, especially because CCP forbids chartradescams. Now try feeling how the buyer feels, with the added belief that CCP guarantees that chartrades are legit business. If the buyer asks where the implant clone is, and is told it's in highsec and not null, then it's active misrepresentation. If the buyer fails to ask, the seller really has no obligation to disclose information other than what is required by CCP. There's a big difference between active misrepresentation and unnecessary disclosure.
And yes, let's care about the buyers feelings and open the door right into allowing people to petition for a reverse-sale when they get buyers remorse. That'll end so well for the character trading market...
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Also, your boobs :o --áCCP Eterne, 2012.11.05 14:50 |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2705
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Posted - 2013.02.08 14:04:00 -
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Read the OP again... the seller lied about the location of the clone with implants.
Cant believe how superficial some of you think. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Mai Khumm
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
442
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:10:00 -
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Taqis wrote:heard it from a mate, and just wondering if this is an acceptable practice :
- list a character for sale, mention the hugely expensive HG slave and crystal clones you have ( rule 6 of character transfers : you can mention the implants ). Do NOT mention they are in deep nullsec, in a station whose owner does not accept new corp members or has a corp where you cannot join because you dont speak taiwanese etc. - anyways, somewhere where you cannot ( or it is REALLY difficult and risky to ) take them out anymore.
- jump into the inexpensive clone you have in hisec. Mention the "location the character is in hisec" ( rule 22 of character transfers states you have to mention the location ).
Get a good price considering the clones implants. This is kinda a douche move, but not a scam...
The scam part would be if you or the corp/alliance owned said stations where expensive clones are, then proceeded to contact the buyer and "sell" him access to get said clones out. Only to deny him or POD him... *insert witty saying here* twitter - @AzamiNevinyrall |
Korg Leaf
Nocturnal Romance
56
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:15:00 -
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GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance!
Dude.... your lips! |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
361
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:21:00 -
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Only one Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 8 |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
875
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:38:00 -
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Mai Khumm wrote:Taqis wrote:heard it from a mate, and just wondering if this is an acceptable practice :
- list a character for sale, mention the hugely expensive HG slave and crystal clones you have ( rule 6 of character transfers : you can mention the implants ). Do NOT mention they are in deep nullsec, in a station whose owner does not accept new corp members or has a corp where you cannot join because you dont speak taiwanese etc. - anyways, somewhere where you cannot ( or it is REALLY difficult and risky to ) take them out anymore.
- jump into the inexpensive clone you have in hisec. Mention the "location the character is in hisec" ( rule 22 of character transfers states you have to mention the location ).
Get a good price considering the clones implants. This is kinda a douche move, but not a scam... The scam part would be if you or the corp/alliance owned said stations where expensive clones are, then proceeded to contact the buyer and "sell" him access to get said clones out. Only to deny him or POD him...
Scam or not, the GM post on page 1 was pretty specific.
GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance!
CCP has always had very low tolerence for any kind of funny business where character transfers are concerned, and I'd recommend not testing their stance on that. You can't spend scammed isk if you're perma banned. The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
322
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:05:00 -
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As someone said - sounds more like griefing than tears.
Easy enough to fix - add rule 122.7 Character may not have any jump clones.
Don't you just love it when someone tries really hard to ruin it for everyone else?
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
11
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:24:00 -
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GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance!
/thread |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1572
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:35:00 -
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This seems like a long winded way to mildly inconvenience a random stranger for no particular reason. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6627
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:40:00 -
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Quote:The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence. Similarly, a seller must disclose whether jump clones are located in 0.0, lowsec or highsec space.
Apparently not! ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.02.08 20:52:00 -
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This really seems like a lot of work to set up a moderate return - those expensive implants still need to be purchased. The clones still need to be situated.
The only real value to this would possibly be an impressive KM or just some twisted LuLz. Mostly, it's just going to make the seller look like a flaccid reproductive organ. EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
877
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Posted - 2013.02.08 20:55:00 -
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Subdolus Venator wrote:This really seems like a lot of work to set up a moderate return - those expensive implants still need to be purchased. The clones still need to be situated.
The only real value to this would possibly be an impressive KM or just some twisted LuLz. Mostly, it's just going to make the seller look like a flaccid reproductive organ.
Well, since the GMs came out and point blank said don't do it, it's mostly going to get the ISK sent back to the buyer, and the seller a shiny ban.
But to each their own, I suppose. The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.02.08 20:56:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote: Well, since the GMs came out and point blank said don't do it, it's mostly going to get the ISK sent back to the buyer, and the seller a shiny ban.
Well, this, too.^
EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2617
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Posted - 2013.02.08 21:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:Quote:The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence. Similarly, a seller must disclose whether jump clones are located in 0.0, lowsec or highsec space. Apparently not!
Edited today. Congrats, OP, you made a new rule. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
434
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:16:00 -
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The isk was spent on the items in question. How is it a scam when you actually paid for them?
You can't get your clone out? Just how bad are you?
Anyone that keeps high level clones in 0.0 either 1, has something jump capable, or something stealthy in that station, and an alt with eyes available. Anything less and you deserve what happens to you...
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1140
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:21:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Polly Oxford wrote:You realise that people have more than one set of implants, right?
Anyway, not really a scam. There's nothing to gain from doing it besides tears. So just ask where the clone is. The point! The clone with the implants is in a station in territory which has a high chance of losing said clone as soon as he undocks! Furthermore, the buyer didnt actually get what he paid for! A clone with implants in highsec! Saying "he didnt ask" is bullshit. The buyer was *mislead*! The buyer now feels screwed and spreads the word! Its bad for character trading business as a whole, especially considering that CCP takes that part of their income pretty seriously...
Wow, you didn't really think before posting, didja?
You should go back to popping pods in Hek and leave the posting to people who know what they're doing... less embarassing for you that way. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
TheAsiaRickJames
Crown Solutions
0
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:41:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:The isk was spent on the items in question. How is it a scam when you actually paid for them? You can't get your clone out? Just how bad are you? Anyone that keeps high level clones in 0.0 either 1, has something jump capable, or something stealthy in that station, and an alt with eyes available. Anything less and you deserve what happens to you...
Good one. First, i think that most of the pilots from nullsec alliances do not keep jump capable ships in the nullsec station where their main alliance is located. They might not even be able to fly them. It's not needed; they can buy one, or borrow, or simply undock; WHILE THAT STATION BELONGS TO BLUES would not be a problem. However before the sale the char must be in NPC, so the buyer will not be blue anymore. He will not be able to buy and fit ships, and he will be shot on sight when undocking. Also, even if i had any jump-capable or covert ships there, assets are not sold along with the character, so he will get nothing. He will only have one unarmed, defenseless rookie ship to get the clone out of hostile territory. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
402
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Posted - 2013.02.09 07:02:00 -
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Not really a scam, but there is nothing to gain from it anyway. If you want to get someone to rage it might work, but most people probably would find it a minor inconvenience rather than a complete ripoff. If they know what they are doing they could probably get the clone out of there. |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
521
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Posted - 2013.02.09 07:12:00 -
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I love how peeps keep discussing this when a GM said "No" and added a Rule to boot. vOv |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
300
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:45:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:I love how peeps keep discussing this when a GM said "No" and added a Rule to boot. vOv
CCP keeps handing out reading skillbook but people don't see an in-game benefit so they never train... |
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La'Krul
Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.
7
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Posted - 2013.02.09 11:08:00 -
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Caveat Emptor "buyer beware". It's the responsibility of the buyer to do his homework. A simple, "where are any jumpclones located and what implants do they hold" should suffice. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
543
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Posted - 2013.02.09 13:32:00 -
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La'Krul wrote:Caveat Emptor "buyer beware". It's the responsibility of the buyer to do his homework. A simple, "where are any jumpclones located and what implants do they hold" should suffice.
Who's to blame? -the buyer respecting his part of the contract or the untruthful idiot thanks to who a new rule is added?
If that guy (seller) was looking for his 10min of glory I think he just got them, now should we "clap" or [:doublefacepalm:] ?
Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++ |
Klyde
Big Diggers Trifectas Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2013.02.09 14:12:00 -
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What happens to the guy that buys a toon with a Carrier as part of the sale 9not unheard of), should they expect that to be in high sec as well since their new toon is? just saying....
so much hand holding going on in this game as is, lets not add more. |
Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.02.09 14:13:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Polly Oxford wrote:You realise that people have more than one set of implants, right?
Anyway, not really a scam. There's nothing to gain from doing it besides tears. So just ask where the clone is. The point! The clone with the implants is in a station in territory which has a high chance of losing said clone as soon as he undocks! Furthermore, the buyer didnt actually get what he paid for! A clone with implants in highsec! Saying "he didnt ask" is bullshit. The buyer was *mislead*! The buyer now feels screwed and spreads the word! Its bad for character trading business as a whole, especially considering that CCP takes that part of their income pretty seriously...
This.
Don't.
Do it.
Period.
If you do, go die in a hole somewhere out in space. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
philip the 4th
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.09 15:07:00 -
[45] - Quote
Klyde wrote:
What happens to the guy that buys a toon with a Carrier as part of the sale 9not unheard of), should they expect that to be in high sec as well since their new toon is? just saying....
so much hand holding going on in this game as is, lets not add more.
Rule 6. Items cannot be listed among the character's valuable assets, only skills, implants and reputation. You are buying/selling the character ONLY and nothing else. Ships and items can be readily bought on the market for ISK.
Just saying.... |
Klyde
Big Diggers Trifectas Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2013.02.09 16:08:00 -
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philip the 4th wrote:Klyde wrote:
What happens to the guy that buys a toon with a Carrier as part of the sale 9not unheard of), should they expect that to be in high sec as well since their new toon is? just saying....
so much hand holding going on in this game as is, lets not add more.
Rule 6. Items cannot be listed among the character's valuable assets, only skills, implants and reputation. You are buying/selling the character ONLY and nothing else. Ships and items can be readily bought on the market for ISK. Just saying....
This is my point, once apon a time you could add things like carriers into deal, now you can not... |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
286
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Posted - 2013.02.09 16:49:00 -
[47] - Quote
I fail to see how its a scam, as the inflated character price must be offset by the expensive implants, regardless of where they're located. It does, however, make you a **** to be so nasty for no actual reason. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Darth Khasei
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
56
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:36:00 -
[48] - Quote
GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance!
Respect.
Not really sure why there are any posts past this one. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2626
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:37:00 -
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Darth Khasei wrote:GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance! Respect. Not really sure why there are any posts past this one.
So, you felt the need to post....? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
La'Krul
Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.
7
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:01:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:La'Krul wrote:Caveat Emptor "buyer beware". It's the responsibility of the buyer to do his homework. A simple, "where are any jumpclones located and what implants do they hold" should suffice. Who's to blame? -the buyer respecting his part of the contract or the untruthful idiot thanks to who a new rule is added? If that guy (seller) was looking for his 10min of glory I think he just got them, now should we "clap" or [:doublefacepalm:] ?
But you've missed the point. If the seller says "The character has a clone with such and such implants" then he has not been untruthful. If he lied then that would be a different matter. Any untruthful statement is a misrepresentation and renders a contract voidable.
It would be up to the buyer to ask "and where are these clones/implants?" Legally, you could make the argument that the seller has made a "half-truth" but either way, if you are buying something, do the due diligence and ask the right questions. |
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Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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RubyPorto wrote:Darth Khasei wrote:GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance! Respect. Not really sure why there are any posts past this one. So, you felt the need to post....?
And you felt the need to make a snide comment?
Scamming of any kind is completely wrong in character trading, AND real money is involved in the transfer fee. If you plex scammers can't figure that out, well just go back to Jita spamming. ANY type of misrepresentation in a character transfer and you will feel the wrath of GM's.
Bet on it. Nerf Goons
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RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:21:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:And you felt the need to make a snide comment?
Scamming of any kind is completely wrong in character trading, AND real money is involved in the transfer fee. If you plex scammers can't figure that out, well just go back to Jita spamming. ANY type of misrepresentation in a character transfer and you will feel the wrath of GM's.
Bet on it.
GM Lelouch wrote:Don't do this. Thanks in advance!
RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:Quote:The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence. Similarly, a seller must disclose whether jump clones are located in 0.0, lowsec or highsec space. Apparently not! Edited today. Congrats, OP, you made a new rule.
Yeah, no bet. Seriously, it's only a 3 page thread, and most of the replies are short. Is it really that hard? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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