If you could fly it before, you can fly it after

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If you could fly it before, you can fly it after

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If you could fly it before, you can fly it after

I am concered about the Orca, barge, exumer and Freighter changes

I have trained the current requirement that bonus the ships role

however in this change i will lose the ability to fly the freighter as i do not have advance spaceship command V. i will also lose barge and exumer to the frigate skill

Also will adding ore industrial skill to Orca change or add role bonuses per skill?

I need more details to these changes than "if i can fly it now, i can fly it later"

Can anyone clarify a point for me please.

any racial destroyer or cruiser skill i have trained to level 4 or 5 has now been a waste of time as no longer a prerequisite for anything?

I know I have got use out of it over the years by it being a prerequisite for other things but is that no longer the case?

I agree, needs more details. With freighters are they going to give us advanced spaceship command V or will we lose the ability to fly a freighter

Sure, I can clarify that. Sort of.

First off, there is currently no racial destroyer skill. So this response will be predicated on the idea that you're talking about racial frigate instead.

That out of the way, [racial] frigate 3 will be required for [racial] destroyer. In turn, [racial] destroyer 3 will be required for [racial] cruiser. Cruiser then is the requirement for battlecruiser is the requirement for battleship is the requirement for cap ships. Cap ships will also see new requirements added.

So yes, technically [racial] [frigate/cruiser] 4 could be considered a waste if you only trained it to open up the next largest ships. Likewise, [racial] battleship 4 and 5 could be considered a waste if all you were going for was capital ships.

These skills will not be reimbursed; they are still useful and their core mechanics haven't changed one bit. They will still provide the same boost to the same ships that they do now.

however in this change i will lose the ability to fly the freighter as i do not have advance spaceship command V. i will also lose barge and exumer to the frigate skill

just to clarify...
if I train all racial frigs to rank 3 and my general destroyer skill to let's say 4 when the update is out instead of 1 destroyer skill I get 4 racial ones instead? right?

Quick question that I've been looking an answer for:

Gallente cruiser V
Caldari Cruiser IV
BC V

Will the racial BC become V for both or does the prior skill (cruiser in this case) affect the level to which the Racial one will be trained to when the change occurs?

Someone talk to me like IGÇÖm 9. Better yet, talk to me like IGÇÖm 4. Been reading about this update and asking around and I get a different answer each time. Listed below is what I have and the questions that I have about this update (Sorry for the noobish questions, only 3 months into this game and I thank you for your patience)

What I have:

All Racial Frigs to level 4

All Racial Cruisers to level 3

Battlecruiser to level 4

Destroyer to level 4


Question is, do I need to train for Battlecruiser 5 and Destroyer 5?


Thank you for the patience and game well all!

according to eve mon with my current stats in order to get:
racial frigs (all 4) to rank 4
destroyer V
racial cruisers (all 4) to rank 3
Battlecruiser V

will take 44 days

I got time before the update? and those skills will give me all benefits right?

Zhilia Mann I thought only ship skills were changed there are changes to those extra skills you mentioned or I can train them even after the update without a problem?

cause I'm still new player and got some support skills which I need before those you recommended.

I agree, needs more details. With freighters are they going to give us advanced spaceship command V or will we lose the ability to fly a freighter

Hi Guys.

My question is about the T2 variants of dessy and BC how will these changes affect Command Ships and Interdictors?

Will there be a racial requirement for T2?

Hello fellow capsuleers,


I have a question about the reimbursement form... Where do I find it? Or will we get one on the release of the update?



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"Freighters

Now requires Advanced Spaceship Command 5 instead of 1"


---- If you could fly it before, you can fly it now? - I cant see how this would work? Do you get given Avd Spaceship Com V for free?

Can someone make clear the changes to Transport Ships, if any?
Do we need still need Industry V and Racial Industrial V or do we need Advanced Spaceship Command V?

Hi,

Could someone clarify for me. If i train all Cruisers up to level 3 i'll get to fly all BC's after the change? Or do i need to take them to level 4?

Edited to add: I'll also get all Destroyers?

Yes you only need cruisers to 3 to get the related battlecruiser skill.

Although I personally would advise training them to 4 anyway, because cruisers are great.

The same principle applies to all of the ships regarding the "If you could fly it before, you can fly it after" message. What this means is, as has been mentioned before here, is that the requirements on a skill are to inject it. If you already have a skill injected, as with Freighters in this case, you can continue to train it normally.

The only skills that will be given out are the new racial Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills. All other skill changes will be subject to this rule that if you already have the skill injected, you will be able to train it and fly the ship, even if you are missing pre-requirements for the skill.

Regarding the levels of skills that have been asked earlier in the thread, the dev blog states that:

"if you want to maximize the reimbursement, training Amarr Cruiser past 3 will do you little good. Aim for Battlecruisers 5 instead, as you will then get Amarr Battlecruiser 5."

Having the racial ship skill at level 3, i.e. Amarr Cruisers lvl 3 and Amarr Frigate lvl 3, and the two skills that will be split at level 5, i.e. Destroyers lvl 5 and Battlecruisers lvl 5, will cause you to get Amarr Destroyers lvl 5 and Amarr Battlecruisers at lvl 5.

Also, please remember that I am only relaying the message. If I find out I'm wrong about any of this, I will correct it as soon as possible.

So basically I can fly a JF but i don't have a Advanced Spacehip command 5 has soon has i leave that ship i won'T be able to go back in ?

I have Advanced spaceship command to 4 atm. Please help me understand.

If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

So.. just to get this confirmed. I got this sitter toon for my aeon today which do not have capital ship lvl 4 and doesn't even have JDC at all.. can that sitter toon still sit in the aeon after the patch? This question might already have been answered but i just need to get it confirmed :)

Cheers!