In my opinion good place to start is:
A: Making the CEO unable to skip corp quickly..........There should be a timer delaying a CEO from dropping corp and instantly starting a new one simply to dodge a war dec.

B: When a corp is formed officers should be designated, maybe give these officers an acceptance screen for them to accept the responsibility of the position before a corp actually comes into being.

Any thoughts?

War dec is a high sec game mechanic to allow corps to seek to punish others who blow their mouths off, steal or whatever then hide behind concord. Now gentlemen if a person uses a alt corp in high sec to make isk for himself. The CEO and often only member can simply drop corp to duck a war dec and be back isking under a new corp in no time.

There! Spelled out!

Do you guys play Eve? How much does it cost to dec a corp? Do you even know?! If you did THEN you would see the problem. Look it up

I take it you have never had a ceo just say screw it, I am done before.


You really don't want a CEO who just does not give a f..... anymore running your corp. He wants out now, its in your best interest to want him out now as well.

In a best case you get a good bye e-mail, a final farewell in comms and after that you jsut don't see them. Maybey they will even give thier stuff to corp or a trusted friend. Bills need paid, they run the wallet, well them bills ain't getting paid if they jsut say I am done but the account still lingers around.


In a worst case you get say the famous kartoon emo rage quit of doom. He basically said there were the pubbies and the core goons worth a damn. The latter were a very small part of of goons a few years ago. The pubbies...he shafted, with a vengeance. Granted this at alliance level but same princible applies....when you top person jsut does not give 2 craps anymore, they need to be ousted ASAP. If you like keeping any corp assets, well corp assets that is anyway. If they are willing to drop like a stone, it really is for the best.

Rest of this stuff...dead horse leave empire. Going back to kartoon times. I was in delve in IT on one char. I forget the day goons imploded and died. I will pull wednesday out of thin air and say this was the day it happened (someone can correct me with the right day if they want to lol). On Tuesday we had a dec with goons, we shot them they shot us. Wednesday kartoon says screw it, lets purge this cesspool...we still shot each other. And on on the following days when the goon alliance was no more (hence the war dec no longer valid), we shot them.

No longer war targets mind you. They shattered into lots of splinter crews. It take billions to war dec em all . Enter NBSI. yay its solodrakbansolosolodrakbansolodrakbansolo. You shot them for 2 reasons. They were neuts, and the damn name screwed up formatting on these boards something fierce.

Moral of the story....hate people avoiding war dec, go to a place where only one color is safe, blue (well its green and purple in there too...but you get the point).

Please don't write a novel if only 1% of my post pertains to you

There is a feature called Shares in a corp, you can buy 6% of the shares and take over CEOship from the current CEO once it has been put to a vote and passed this may not work for 1 man corps but if they are one man corps then they should have the option to leave, I do not agree with taking away that ability, however I do think that it should inflict a punishment timer that bars you from making your own corp for 24 hours that would make it fair and if your corp was stupid enough to Dec a one man corp in the first place then they deserve to lose that money for the dec.

Finally! one man gets it! except it isn't stupid to war dec a 1 man incursion alt corp - it keeps them from being able to make iskies as incursion fleets won't accept war decced people into their ranks.

But there should be at least a 24 hrs timer!

Again, you dec the corp, not the player, as CCP stated. Current mechanics is working as intended to keep you from following and griefing a specific player through wardec.

tl;dr:
Wardec mechanics is designed to keep you from doing exactly what you 're trying to do. If you're mad, it's working.

In 0.0 you **** someone off we come take your sov, in W-space we burn your wormhole down, in low sec we camp your station, what the hell am I supposed to do with a high sec war dec that costs 50 MILLION ISK to wage when in 30 seconds its useless?!! the mechanic is broken and people are exploiting it

This would seem to be aimed at one man corps specifically, as those with more players involved would be less likely to skip to NPC corps as quickly or easily.

It seems the current system is designed to discourage what you suggest. This is why it costs to file a war dec, instead of being a free thing.

Rearranging the system to suit you, when the devs obviously do not share your views, seems rather selfish.

In short, why should a single player, (granted one in a one man corp for whatever reason), need to let you target them with impunity in high sec?
This is not a carnival game where you insert ISK for consequence free attacks. If that was the case, bounty hunting would be how this would be handled.

I am unconvinced, so it's a NO from me.

u can dec whatever new corp he makes until he gets the picture and joins an NPC corp and pays appropriate tax. or u can follow him into an incursion and gank his pimped incursion ship. may even make some money if u scoop fast enough.

And I argue that Corps are meant to be more than one player, to benefit more than yourself, and to create one simply to benefit your own wallet by ducking the NPC taxes is simply selfish and not the purpose of creating a corp.

It does not benefit the social structure of Eve to have hundreds of one man corps running around dodging NPC corp taxes. And if there where more than one player in corps which couldn't be dissolved in a flash of a moment, then there would be more fights in high sec which equals more ships bought and sold AND more people learning to pvp in a rather safer environment than Low/Null/W-space

So tell me how can this really be a bad thing? it doesn't prevent individual players from making isk in high sec, as they can do that activity in an NPC corp, it doesn't even prevent them from having their own 1 man corp!!! just if they make a corp they can't instantly drop it and restart a new one within 5 seconds!!

Why is this such a bad thing?

So how often would you war dec at 50mil a pop to get no results?

Why don't you just give up chasing after this one guy in order to grief him? You do realize Eve mechanic is designed intentionally to prevent you from doing just this? Judging from the whine, I'd say it's working as intended.

That is why 85% of Eve playerbase is in highsec, genius. I'd say highsec is working as intended.

And I argue that Corps are meant to be more than one player, to benefit more than yourself, and to create one simply to benefit your own wallet by ducking the NPC taxes is simply selfish and not the purpose of creating a corp.

It does not benefit the social structure of Eve to have hundreds of one man corps running around dodging NPC corp taxes. And if there where more than one player in corps which couldn't be dissolved in a flash of a moment, then there would be more fights in high sec which equals more ships bought and sold AND more people learning to pvp in a rather safer environment than Low/Null/W-space

So tell me how can this really be a bad thing? it doesn't prevent individual players from making isk in high sec, as they can do that activity in an NPC corp, it doesn't even prevent them from having their own 1 man corp!!! just if they make a corp they can't instantly drop it and restart a new one within 5 seconds!!

Why is this such a bad thing?

CCP Dev: "You dec the corp, not the player"

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I invite the you all to try deccing and incursion corp someday. You don't get a chance to meet them on the way to Jita because 5 minutes after you dec them they destroy the corp - your 50mil is wasted. However the suicide gank is definitely in the works, I just wish I could hit this guys from all sides (when it's a noob I trained for years and he betrays my trust I pretty much come at him at all angles providing the game mechanics allow it, which they don't in current form)

I have yet to hear a very good reason why a CEO who is the most responsible and accountable member in any group can simply drop his corp and responsibilties in a flash

So as long as you be a CEO with no people in your corp you can have all the financial benefits with no consequinces for your actions eh? On top of that all it benefits is YOU and you aren't really serious about being a CEO, just using the mechanics to enrich yourself? And you think this is good?

Because it's a player using one mechanic to make another mechanic useless.

In high sec the war dec mechanic is there to allow players a means of retribution if they are willing to pay the price. So you think it's okay for me to pay the 50mil isk to war dec or corp, risk it getting allies, but instead just have the CEO duck corp and restart a new one minutes after the dec mail notifies him? Somehow I don't think so