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E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
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Posted - 2013.02.12 05:37:00 -
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I had left EvE because I ran out of things to do and left in search of a game that better fit my short play times(kids).
I missed EvE's long term goals, single shard and meaningful game play.
So I asked CCP for short activation to see the changes.
I am a member of a good corp that is active in a lot of area's but here has been my experience.
Day 1 I log in and get my stuff together and move to my corps new empire AO, and red frog the rest(thanks)
I grab a new destroyer and figure to do some missions... Well I can only pull level 1's and that is no fun(not that 4's are). so do few and release i have no intention of grinding that faction. I did a few with a newbie corp mate.
Day 2 a buy a WH fit, and do a level 4 WH. Got say it was boring. Every encounter was known and scouts made it feel fairly safe. The corp had it down to a fine science. I locked tags and the biggest task was not forgetting to orbit or swap targets while reading the internet.
Day 3 real life
Day 4 I went out to 0.0 on a small pvp roam. all I had was tackle but that is fine. made about 20 jumps and only ever managed to gank a drake and a couple noob ships in 4h of play on different gates.
Day 5 more pvp on a gate camp in cloakie ships....no real fights. We ganked or ran.
Day 6......I played another game.
WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
Once you have ISK and skills and your corp is well set up.....what do you do?
I mean I felt i did most of things in eve. how am i to get sucked back in? I don't need isk. What am i to work towards when i log in. What fun game play can I do during my log in period?
I mean sure there are corp goals but sitting on a random gate didn't really feel all that helpful.
There is much to love about eve but entertaining game play is just not there. Give me a goal to work towards and make it fun.
I expect to get flamed but won't reply because you can't post after your account expires but I will read.
(3bil isk and 50mil skills all sub cap...so not super elite but can do anything non capitol related))
-some perma noob who was looking for some fun.
Need more-ádecent content a casual player can access in a 1-2h play period that is actually fun and contributes to long term personal and corp goals. This applies to PvE and PvP. |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
80
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Posted - 2013.02.12 05:49:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:I had left EvE because I ran out of things to do and left in search of a game that better fit my short play times(kids).
I missed EvE's long term goals, single shard and meaningful game play.
So I asked CCP for short activation to see the changes.
I am a member of a good corp that is active in a lot of area's but here has been my experience.
Day 1 I log in and get my stuff together and move to my corps new empire AO, and red frog the rest(thanks)
I grab a new destroyer and figure to do some missions... Well I can only pull level 1's and that is no fun(not that 4's are). so do few and release i have no intention of grinding that faction. I did a few with a newbie corp mate.
Day 2 a buy a WH fit, and do a level 4 WH. Got say it was boring. Every encounter was known and scouts made it feel fairly safe. The corp had it down to a fine science. I locked tags and the biggest task was not forgetting to orbit or swap targets while reading the internet.
Day 3 real life
Day 4 I went out to 0.0 on a small pvp roam. all I had was tackle but that is fine. made about 20 jumps and only ever managed to gank a drake and a couple noob ships in 4h of play on different gates.
Day 5 more pvp on a gate camp in cloakie ships....no real fights. We ganked or ran.
Day 6......I played another game.
WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
Once you have ISK and skills and your corp is well set up.....what do you do?
I mean I felt i did most of things in eve. how am i to get sucked back in? I don't need isk. What am i to work towards when i log in. What fun game play can I do during my log in period?
I mean sure there are corp goals but sitting on a random gate didn't really feel all that helpful.
There is much to love about eve but entertaining game play is just not there. Give me a goal to work towards and make it fun.
I expect to get flamed but won't reply because you can't post after your account expires but I will read.
(3bil isk and 50mil skills all sub cap...so not super elite but can do anything non capitol related))
-some perma noob who was looking for some fun.
Why not get into caps then? or join a group like EVE Uni to help the new guys out? or you could always go out with a bang  . Or you could break your moral boundaries and screw with some other corps... or maybe you should just join a new corp that has long term goals. Half of my fun is on comms laughing with other corpies/alliance members while i shoot all the things in black rise (prior to a temporary move in game somewhere else) |
Solstice Project
Brave Newbies Inc.
2731
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Posted - 2013.02.12 09:50:00 -
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How hard must it be for people to just ... live ...
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:01:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:
WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
Do not blame the game 
www.facebook.com/RazorAlliance |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
210
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:51:00 -
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Galllente Militia could using a hand pushing back the squids. |
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
693
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Posted - 2013.02.12 14:45:00 -
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Did you even consider working to reform Highsec and purge the carebear culture by joining the New Order? No, because you want all your content handed to you by the devs. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
795
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Posted - 2013.02.12 15:21:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:How hard must it be for people to just ... live ...
But EVE is not a life, it is a game. Some people forget that. They grind for PLEX with a desperation like that of a starving man who would work for food. They fear death, in something that is not life. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
254
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Posted - 2013.02.12 16:05:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:Give me a goal to work towards No.
Enjoy WoW.
[img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img]
Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Orlacc
217
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Posted - 2013.02.12 16:21:00 -
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What is a Level 4 Wormhole?
We will miss you and your pithy insights! |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
WHY so Seri0Us
1024
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:33:00 -
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If you're not happy to be a grunt, do something else. Go hard or go home.
CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |
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Julius SurJo
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:04:00 -
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I agree with the OP. even tho I still play this game after 2years and I still enjoy it, i know where he's coming from. There are times I log in and I just find myself ship spinning, reading chat, or just playing around with fits or my skill queue. Then I just log off afterwards.
Now yes I can go roaming with a fleet or do incursions, missions, even go mine ect, ect. But really... while you do those things are you jumping up and down in your seat saying "This game is so f%#kin fun" ? I dont think so. Except for those good PvP fights that you get once in awhile, but how often does that happen and how many hours/jumps you have do go to get those fights? IF you get one. Null sec is already empty anyways. made 30j in a Rohk solo and couldn't find someone to kill me.
But at the end of the day im still logging into this game. What CCP did well is having there be a long term goal players want to reach. But does a poor job for those that just want to log in for 30min to get a quick fix in some fun. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2061
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:13:00 -
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OP claims to have done all things in Eve in 4 days. (yes he listed 6..but took 2 of those days off).
I guess there is nothing left in this game for you.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
86
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:19:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:What is a Level 4 Wormhole?
We will miss you and your pithy insights!
Class 4 wormhole perhaps? |
Shokre O'Corwi
The Squid Squad
Slumdogs
50
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:05:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Galllente Militia could using a hand pushing back the squids.
What did we ever do to you?? :P |
La'Krul
Havoc Violence and Chaos
BricK sQuAD.
11
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:27:00 -
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3bn isk is apparently not enough to buy an imagination. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:35:00 -
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Its up to you what you want to do, there are plenty of possibilities if you have the imagination. All those things you listed sounded pretty boring though. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2675
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Posted - 2013.02.13 02:34:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
So... uh... set a goal for yourself?
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Shalia Ripper
360
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Posted - 2013.02.13 03:03:00 -
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EvE Careers
You did ALL these things in 6 days?
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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slowun
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.02.13 04:23:00 -
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So it seems some people cant read the title of the thread,which clearly states he's come back to eve for 7 days after having not played for the last 260 days,if you also read he last part in brackets it also states he has 50mil sp and can fly most sub caps.
OP. I know exactly how you feel, I've played eve since early 09 and for the first 18mths or so i played 12hrs or more a day every day.
It was great, learning to fly new ships and trying out differant proffesions,(I had 5 accounts at one point).i've tried everthing in eve except being a pirate,but nothing really kept my attention,wh's are lonely places without decent access,missions are boring so is mining,manufacturing and trading,null is just as bad( wait 4 hrs for a fleet,jump 50 gates,get mobbed by supers etc or worse spend next 4hrs shooting structures) yes you can make a lot of isk doing most of those things,but where's the fun???
After that i played on and off for the last 2yrs or so,every patch i come back hoping something will grab my attention,but nothing really did until retribution came along and i joined RvB,this is the best thing i've ever done in my 4yrs playing EvE.
RvB is basically 2 corps permanatly at war with about 3000 members in each corp who just have a laugh killing eachother,you can come and go as you please and there are only a few rules(such as no podding RvB members),its great if you only have an hour or so to play as there is nearly allways a fleet up(usually 10-50 strong) you can join or we have a dedicated system for soloing,it needent even cost that much,you can fly about in a t1 fitted frigate and have just as much fun as some of the bigger ships we sometimes fly.Just a week or so ago we held an event where we blew up 26000 pre fitted frigates in a weekend killing eachother 
Come join RvB and start enjoying Eve |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.02.13 04:39:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:I had left EvE because I ran out of things to do and left in search of a game that better fit my short play times(kids).
I missed EvE's long term goals, single shard and meaningful game play.
So I asked CCP for short activation to see the changes.
I am a member of a good corp that is active in a lot of area's but here has been my experience.
Day 1 I log in and get my stuff together and move to my corps new empire AO, and red frog the rest(thanks)
I grab a new destroyer and figure to do some missions... Well I can only pull level 1's and that is no fun(not that 4's are). so do few and release i have no intention of grinding that faction. I did a few with a newbie corp mate.
Day 2 a buy a WH fit, and do a level 4 WH. Got say it was boring. Every encounter was known and scouts made it feel fairly safe. The corp had it down to a fine science. I locked tags and the biggest task was not forgetting to orbit or swap targets while reading the internet.
Day 3 real life
Day 4 I went out to 0.0 on a small pvp roam. all I had was tackle but that is fine. made about 20 jumps and only ever managed to gank a drake and a couple noob ships in 4h of play on different gates.
Day 5 more pvp on a gate camp in cloakie ships....no real fights. We ganked or ran.
Day 6......I played another game.
WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
Once you have ISK and skills and your corp is well set up.....what do you do?
I mean I felt i did most of things in eve. how am i to get sucked back in? I don't need isk. What am i to work towards when i log in. What fun game play can I do during my log in period?
I mean sure there are corp goals but sitting on a random gate didn't really feel all that helpful.
There is much to love about eve but entertaining game play is just not there. Give me a goal to work towards and make it fun.
I expect to get flamed but won't reply because you can't post after your account expires but I will read.
(3bil isk and 50mil skills all sub cap...so not super elite but can do anything non capitol related))
-some perma noob who was looking for some fun.
Well there's your problem. Gate camping as almost as boring as mining. |
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
378
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Posted - 2013.02.13 05:22:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Did you even consider working to reform Highsec and purge the carebear culture by joining the New Order? No, because you want all your content handed to you by the devs.
Obligatory laughing post at New Order. They think they big :)
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online.
BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
128
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Posted - 2013.02.13 11:57:00 -
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Take a look at it this way....
Don't think of eve as a game, it really isn't a game at all.
Think of eve as a playground.
it's got swings, slides a sand pit and a merry-go-round, how much fun you get out of it though will be due to who you're playing with, your own imagination and what games you create.
eve is a terrible game, but it's a fantastic playground. |
Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
268
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Posted - 2013.02.13 13:40:00 -
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Deep down, EVE is a game where enjoyment boils down to just few simple things...
1. Find what you enjoy and do just that. Sounds simple? It should be.
2. Find a group of people who enjoy doing the same things than you do, and do it when you do. Again, very simple even if time consuming to find the right group that is fun to play with, even on the occasions you have to do the dull stuff.
3. Get involved with that group of people, start planning on how to become one of the big shots in whatever it is that you do. Start taking risks and you'll start getting some actual success. That success will allow you to shrug off losses that inevitably happen with those risks, but at the same time it'll keep you interested.
Or then you can go back to mindless grinding and dull waiting games... Up to you. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:45:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Did you even consider working to reform Highsec and purge the carebear culture by joining the New Order? No, because you want all your content handed to you by the devs.
The new order? You mean the army of alts from jimmy316 or what ever his name is that is running for CSM on miner griefing platform? Yes thats what this guy needs to fill his game time. Lets all go out and bump miners all day and accomplish ummmm well uhhhh yea lets bump miners. |
John DaiSho
Applied Creations
The Fendahlian Collective
83
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:08:00 -
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Well...actually you have already understood what makes EvE fun...you set your own goals and go after them, hopefully you have set a goal for stuff that you actually like to do :)
From your post there is no way to tell what you do find fun, other than you do not like missions (thats what sleeper sites are, when done with a good group) and gatecamping, but what do you like?
I left WHs for basically the same reasons that you do feel now. We were set up very good, everything was working...it became boring. There were no further plans to expand or progress, the others where okay with the way things were and enjoyed flying bling ships without having to care for the ISK, but I didn-¦t.
Now I am in lowsec and building up some kind of hub there, making little progress every now and then and I am very happy everytime something I have set up is being used by the surrounding forces.
So in the end, do exactly what you already know you must do, find yourself a goal that you will have fun playing towards. That might mean you have to start something new from scratch, but that can be very rewarding and thrilling.
Good luck! |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:18:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:I had left EvE because I ran out of things to do and left in search of a game that better fit my short play times(kids).
I missed EvE's long term goals, single shard and meaningful game play.
So I asked CCP for short activation to see the changes.
I am a member of a good corp that is active in a lot of area's but here has been my experience.
Day 1 I log in and get my stuff together and move to my corps new empire AO, and red frog the rest(thanks)
I grab a new destroyer and figure to do some missions... Well I can only pull level 1's and that is no fun(not that 4's are). so do few and release i have no intention of grinding that faction. I did a few with a newbie corp mate.
Day 2 a buy a WH fit, and do a level 4 WH. Got say it was boring. Every encounter was known and scouts made it feel fairly safe. The corp had it down to a fine science. I locked tags and the biggest task was not forgetting to orbit or swap targets while reading the internet.
Day 3 real life
Day 4 I went out to 0.0 on a small pvp roam. all I had was tackle but that is fine. made about 20 jumps and only ever managed to gank a drake and a couple noob ships in 4h of play on different gates.
Day 5 more pvp on a gate camp in cloakie ships....no real fights. We ganked or ran.
Day 6......I played another game.
WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
Once you have ISK and skills and your corp is well set up.....what do you do?
I mean I felt i did most of things in eve. how am i to get sucked back in? I don't need isk. What am i to work towards when i log in. What fun game play can I do during my log in period?
I mean sure there are corp goals but sitting on a random gate didn't really feel all that helpful.
There is much to love about eve but entertaining game play is just not there. Give me a goal to work towards and make it fun.
I expect to get flamed but won't reply because you can't post after your account expires but I will read.
(3bil isk and 50mil skills all sub cap...so not super elite but can do anything non capitol related))
-some perma noob who was looking for some fun.
Eve is a sandbox - your "fun" is what you make of it.
For me, in rl I like to fish. On days where I am feeling active, I walk my beach (roaming) and hit all the jetties looking for fish. Other days when I'm feeling lazy I plop down on my beech and throw out my bait (camping) waiting for the fish to find me. Eve is my online equivalent of fishing. Some days I roam, some days I camp. As I get older, I find I'm camping more and roaming less, but I'm playing the way I like it and its fun for me and that's what is great about eve.
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
28
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:26:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:I had left EvE because I ran out of things to do and left in search of a game that better fit my short play times(kids).
I missed EvE's long term goals, single shard and meaningful game play.
So I asked CCP for short activation to see the changes.
I am a member of a good corp that is active in a lot of area's but here has been my experience.
Day 1 I log in and get my stuff together and move to my corps new empire AO, and red frog the rest(thanks)
I grab a new destroyer and figure to do some missions... Well I can only pull level 1's and that is no fun(not that 4's are). so do few and release i have no intention of grinding that faction. I did a few with a newbie corp mate.
Day 2 a buy a WH fit, and do a level 4 WH. Got say it was boring. Every encounter was known and scouts made it feel fairly safe. The corp had it down to a fine science. I locked tags and the biggest task was not forgetting to orbit or swap targets while reading the internet.
Day 3 real life
Day 4 I went out to 0.0 on a small pvp roam. all I had was tackle but that is fine. made about 20 jumps and only ever managed to gank a drake and a couple noob ships in 4h of play on different gates.
Day 5 more pvp on a gate camp in cloakie ships....no real fights. We ganked or ran.
Day 6......I played another game.
WIthout any real goal or objective to work towards.....i had nothing to do.
Once you have ISK and skills and your corp is well set up.....what do you do?
I mean I felt i did most of things in eve. how am i to get sucked back in? I don't need isk. What am i to work towards when i log in. What fun game play can I do during my log in period?
I mean sure there are corp goals but sitting on a random gate didn't really feel all that helpful.
There is much to love about eve but entertaining game play is just not there. Give me a goal to work towards and make it fun.
I expect to get flamed but won't reply because you can't post after your account expires but I will read.
(3bil isk and 50mil skills all sub cap...so not super elite but can do anything non capitol related))
-some perma noob who was looking for some fun.
thank you for backing my opinion... if anyone form CCP sees this thread : PLEASE GIVE EVE A BOOST, make it more incredible... give it story and character....do it for the people that love eve but have reached its limits. Do it for the people who want to see something unbelievable. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
28
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:32:00 -
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John DaiSho wrote:Well...actually you have already understood what makes EvE fun...you set your own goals and go after them, hopefully you have set a goal for stuff that you actually like to do :)
From your post there is no way to tell what you do find fun, other than you do not like missions (thats what sleeper sites are, when done with a good group) and gatecamping, but what do you like?
I left WHs for basically the same reasons that you do feel now. We were set up very good, everything was working...it became boring. There were no further plans to expand or progress, the others where okay with the way things were and enjoyed flying bling ships without having to care for the ISK, but I didn-¦t.
Now I am in lowsec and building up some kind of hub there, making little progress every now and then and I am very happy everytime something I have set up is being used by the surrounding forces.
So in the end, do exactly what you already know you must do, find yourself a goal that you will have fun playing towards. That might mean you have to start something new from scratch, but that can be very rewarding and thrilling.
Good luck!
bro he already knows eve and what makes it fun : hes saying hes had enough of that kind of fun and is asking hiumself if there will be more fun to be had or if its time for a new game. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
564
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:33:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:...want to see something unbelievable.
Send me all your isk and assets, I'll make good use of them. Start everything from the scratch with a new character and rebuild everything you are able to give me, if you manage to do it, this would be unbelievable !
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
John DaiSho
Applied Creations
The Fendahlian Collective
83
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:46:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:John DaiSho wrote:Well...actually you have already understood what makes EvE fun...you set your own goals and go after them, hopefully you have set a goal for stuff that you actually like to do :)
From your post there is no way to tell what you do find fun, other than you do not like missions (thats what sleeper sites are, when done with a good group) and gatecamping, but what do you like?
I left WHs for basically the same reasons that you do feel now. We were set up very good, everything was working...it became boring. There were no further plans to expand or progress, the others where okay with the way things were and enjoyed flying bling ships without having to care for the ISK, but I didn-¦t.
Now I am in lowsec and building up some kind of hub there, making little progress every now and then and I am very happy everytime something I have set up is being used by the surrounding forces.
So in the end, do exactly what you already know you must do, find yourself a goal that you will have fun playing towards. That might mean you have to start something new from scratch, but that can be very rewarding and thrilling.
Good luck! bro he already knows eve and what makes it fun : hes saying hes had enough of that kind of fun and is asking hiumself if there will be more fun to be had or if its time for a new game.
You just dont have enough imagination about what you can do in here. CCP will never be able to add enough to EvE so that it feels awesome and incredible all by itself. You will always have to use whatever is given to you to make your own incredible story. You cant code such a thing.
So you can demand as often as you want that CCP fills the universe with more content, in the end it will have to be you that makes the content for yourself.
If I would be the one that decides what needs to be done its a POS revamp, with so many possibilities that every player would want their own one. Highly specialized and individualized, so that you would plan and build it over a long time...and then someone would want to destroy it *ahem* |
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