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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:33:00 -
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Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:But dose it say in the rules of the game you can't do it though?
Yes it does, actually. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6669
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:51:00 -
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Now let's be honest, if that thread was about somebody in TEST or Goonswarm the community's reaction would have been "lol botter." Let's not pretend otherwise. The fact that this guy is in an ~honourable~ corp based in hisec seems to indicate, to some, that he plays within the rules, when for all we know he's been running a market bot the whole time and is just trying to start drama in response to being punished appropriately.
"But hurr they didn't remove the ISK until he sent it to E-UNI!"
The ISK wasn't there when he was banned - he liquidated his assets after the suspension period was over.
Quote:He then proceeded to liquidate his assets, and talked to one of the E-UNI directors
So yes, it's completely within reason that this guy is a botter and he's just being a babby about being handed the same punishment that everyone gets for botting, with an exception perhaps being that his gains from botting were not removed. Seriously, try updating 30 orders in a minute even with some fancy IGB page that says what price to set them to. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:10:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:my point is that you get a "slow down, you have to wait x seconds before you are allowed to modify another order" popup if you modify too many orders in a short timeframe.
It's entirely possible that his only "crime" was doing ~naughty~ things to get around that limitation! In which case he actually got off easy because those ~naughty~ things generally award you a permaban.
edit: aaand I missed sreegs' post ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 12:03:00 -
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Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:What ban man? He donated the money after coming back from the suspension and then biomassed. The money was all the time there during the only suspension.
I'm quoting your CEO, straight from his thread. After his ban (or "suspension") he liquidated his assets and donated the ISK to E-UNI, who sanity checked it by petitioning. If they had doubts about the legitimacy of the ISK, why were they so shocked when the decision was to remove it, rather than sighing in relief and being glad that they didn't spend tons of that ISK on unrecoverable assets (i.e. skillbooks and ship replacements) that would have gained a massive negwallet later on? ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 12:39:00 -
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You're talking about something that is quite different from merely collecting market data for eve central, fyi ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 12:48:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:Let's also be honest. This would never happen to a goon, because there is a goon in charge of Team Security at CCP.
sorry e-uni alt, you're wrong - five goons had trillions in assets (rightfully) revoked last summer and it was a pretty big scandal ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 15:15:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Dante Uisen wrote:If/when it becomes illegal/impossible to use the cache files, what will happen to the massive amounts of isk players have made using this technique? Nothing. It wasn't against the rules then, so they can't be punished for it. John wants to have a word with you.
"John" used a market bot - the discussion about this IGB crap is just a huge derail. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 15:44:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:CCP Sreegs, named after the sound bots make when they're hit with the banhammer.
it was actually some dumb forum meme ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:48:00 -
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317B ISK Gone from Goonswarm: Who Watches the Watchmen?
tl;dr: Goonswarm member with spotless record gets temp banned for suspected botting. Is told to go away when he professes innocence and provides proof. Decides to just leave EVE and donates 300 billion ISK to Goonswarm. Goonswarm asks CCP if its all legit, CCP removes it. Goonswarm asks why even leave it with him if it was legit, and is concerned that CCPs security team have no oversight. Goonswarm is told to go away. CCP's security team have no oversight?
clearly the reaction would be "oh man this ban was clearly undeserved and Goonswarm should have kept the 327B" ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:41:00 -
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Aren Madigan wrote:Clutching at straws? Its common sense that if he was botting, he wouldn't give the program unless he's an idiot. If he wasn't, some assumption was made.
A couple key things:
CCP isn't going to disclose whether or not they received any source code from a customer, period. They rarely disclose correspondence from their customers. Even if he did give them source code, that doesn't mean that it is what he used.
Again, you're taking his story at face value because he was a ~valuable~ member of your particular group. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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