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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:47:00 -
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Where do people get this idea that a bounty is anything to do with being a criminal? Criminals put out bounties (or contracts) on people in the real world all the time, probably more than LEOs do. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:25:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Malcanis wrote:Where do people get this idea that a bounty is anything to do with being a criminal? Criminals put out bounties (or contracts) on people in the real world all the time, probably more than LEOs do. You say "Criminals put out bounties on people" and then you ask "Where do people get this idea that a bounty is anything to do with being a criminal?" ... Are you joking or do you seriously not see the connection?
Apologies: I should have been more precise and said "Where do people get this idea that having a bounty is anything to do with being a criminal?"
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 09:38:00 -
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Mikhael Taron wrote:Bounties will never work in a game where the wearer of the bounty suffers nothing when shot-up for the bounty. Even podded the clone wakes up minus implants (big deal) and continues on the same course.
The current situation has people placing 100k bounties on everyone, rendering the overview useless when bounty-hunting.
In the real life bounty system, when the bounty hunter claims the bounty the target is either in chains or is in a box. Either way he has lost something.
Translating this into Eve consider a system where the wearer of the bounty loses 1SP per 1,000 isk of bounty on his head. That would make the bounty worth something to all concerned; wearer AND hunter.
Regaining SP after being podded for a few M isk bounty would be trivial. Recovering from being podded having 100's M isk bounty is another matter. For those toons with 100's B isk bounties? No change as those toons were never seen anyway.
Constraints.
If left as a free-for-all this system could be used to annihilate a toon by anyone with a fortune in isk to burn. When it comes to relatively new toons it wouldn't require a fortune, so there would need to be limits on when a bounty can be placed.
Options.
Restore the old limitations to placing a bounty. Concord won't allow a bounty on someone with a +ve sec status, as they won't recognise the potential victim as deserving of it. Apart from that: free-for-all.
Bounties can be placed only on someone on whom you have kill rights. There can be no argument you would be justified fully in placing the bounty. However that stops bounties being placed on someone who just raped your corporation, so is a harsh limitation.
Implementation.
In changeover to the new system the current plethora of bounties would need to be considered, with a view to zeroing bounties on toons that meet certain criteria. Probably usng the above criteria would work.
If someone has a bounty placed on him he is able to pay concord an amount of isk to reduce it, on an isk-for-isk basis, all the way to zero.
Practice.
You are protected from mailcious bounty-placing provided you remain within the constraints. If you are podded, with the bounty gone, you are again protected by it (sec status reset to 0 or kill rights reset?) until you make yourself vulnerable to the bounty system. This stops you from becoming helpless in the face of repeat bounty-placing.
If bounties are allowed on anyone with -ve sec status then having that at -10 tends to screw you unless you bring it up to 0.0+. Grinding status up while all the time being vulnerable to bounty-PvP may be too much to ask. Then again: you want to brag low sec status, then pay the price. It's a thought.
Harsh? Maybe, but bounties are still broken so any idea that can change this is worth punting.
Since implants are no big deal, could I trouble you to contract me a few dozen +5 sets? I forgot to pick some up when I went to the store and now I'm all out. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.04.08 20:51:00 -
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Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote: Since implants are no big deal, could I trouble you to contract me a few dozen +5 sets? I forgot to pick some up when I went to the store and now I'm all out.
Smartarse one-liners do not a point make. Also, never wear anything you can't afford to lose. Even noobs know that one.
You tried to say that gettin podded is "no big deal". If I got podded right now it would mean I had to replace ~600-700M worth of implants.
If losing ships and pods is so trivial, then I'd say that the punishment fits the cirme. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:15:00 -
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Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote:Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote: Since implants are no big deal, could I trouble you to contract me a few dozen +5 sets? I forgot to pick some up when I went to the store and now I'm all out.
Smartarse one-liners do not a point make. Also, never wear anything you can't afford to lose. Even noobs know that one. You tried to say that gettin podded is "no big deal". If I got podded right now it would mean I had to replace ~600-700M worth of implants. If losing ships and pods is so trivial, then I'd say that the punishment fits the cirme. Again: don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Basic wisdom in Eve. Losing 100,000 SP. Now THAT'S a big deal.
Then the punishment would be disproportionate to the crime. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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