Ok so i fly gallente and have good drone skills (8m) and i have good gunnery skills. But at the moment i just struggle with missions (due to the drone agro ofc) I had been away from the game for a year and came back.

I currently have marauders level 4 and fly a rail kronos. But its become very frustrating with drone agro now and when taking out the smaller ships has becomes a chore. Battleship size ships aint a problem just unless im 50k+ away from anything anything smaller is just painstakingly slow and annoying.


Any advice on what i can do next ?

Going the 'HAM Tengu' isnt really a option as i have next to no missile skills.

So what should i do ?
Will blasters work on a L4 kronos ?

Time to respec something else ?

I just don't know what to do so looking for a bit of advice and//or guidence.

Thanks

Fit a fed navy web in the mids and you should see an improvement

I currently have marauders level 4 and fly a rail kronos. But its become very frustrating with drone agro now and when taking out the smaller ships has becomes a chore. Battleship size ships aint a problem just unless im 50k+ away from anything anything smaller is just painstakingly slow and annoying.

Any advice on what i can do next ?

Going the 'HAM Tengu' isnt really a option as i have next to no missile skills.

So what should i do ?
Will blasters work on a L4 kronos ?

Time to respec something else ?

Hehe same thign with missiles if you dont fit it right.... i counted yesterday that it took 580 scourge fury to kill a small sig frig in a mission :D

Either ren and stimpy programmed my ships systems or its just way way waayyyy to overdone :)

All you need to do reallty is to use drone at a closer range, but seeing your ship is a rail kronos thats also gimping yourslef :/

Large rails will never hit frig rats at web range with 10 webs...

Actually HAMs do benefit from guided missile precision, as do torpedoes and rockets now.

Source?

I ask because my of tests with a HAM Tengu and torpedo Golem earlier this month.

Micro jump drive ?

What will that do for me ?

Sorry cos i been away from eve for a bit it seems like they added it while i was away !

I just read up on it and i see what it does.



So does that mean i warp into mission pocket, hit the MJD jump out 100k snipe all, jump back (if i need to go thru gates) done ?

Retribution 1.0 patch notes. http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

"The Guided Precision skill has been changed to affect all missiles."

I saw a very noticeable difference when shooting at elite frigates with my HAM legion when I finished guided missile precision 5.

Two tracking computers. Optimal range scripts allow you to hit rats for full damage beyond 60km with Antimatter L.

Fit a Federation Navy stasis webifier on your third medium slot. 90% web strength is extremely powerful. Shoot smaller rats when you first land in a pocket. Apply the web when frigates and webifier drones are within 5km range before unleashing your drones on them.

The fourth mid slot is up to you. A cap recharger, third tracking computer or even a target painter will help. I am using an omnidirectional tracking link nowadays to boost Garde IIs' range and tracking. My Kronos pours out 1,050 DPS up to 50km.

Remember that PvE in EVE is about range projection. Blasters will consume more time because you have to move to each group, while rats typically orbit at a given range. Which brings me to HAMs. Heavy Assault Missiles have too short a range and do not benefit from Guided Missile Precision. Scourge Precision Heavy Missiles supported by a target painter or warhead rigor catalyst kills frigates in less time.

Before deciding on a long term plan, learn to fly your Kronos to its maximum potential. You may opt to cross-train Minmatar and field a Vargur or Machariel in the future. Experiment until you find an optimal setup.


Rail Kronos is fine. You are the one gimping yourself with an inferior ship.


I hit frigates all the time. 90% web strength. Ever tried Buzz Kill in a Kronos, Paladin, or Vindicator with proper web bonus? 0.03 rad/sec tracking on a large Railgun or Tachyon will shoot them down in one volley.

Read: At web range. And that's web range for a Kronos, not Bhaal. Giving the sig radius and scan resolution gap, 0.03 rad/sec is nowhere close to enough at web range, at any web strength. And these large rails are 0.01 rad/sec, not 0.03, swap all your TC scripts to tracking and it still won't cut it.

Right. Two tracking speed scripts. I blap frigates after bringing them down to 30 m/s transversal.

No you didn't. You blapped them on approach with no transversal and their pesudo-mwd sig bloom on, not orbiting within web range.

Arch Gistii Hunter
Signature Radius: 35 m
Orbit Velocity: 225.0 m/s
Orbit Range: 2,000 m
Max. Velocity: 450 m/s

425mm Railgun II
Trackingspeed / Accuracy 0.01010625 rad/sec
Signature Resolution 400 m <-*important*

Don't EFT spar me. Hop off your Machariel and try it in a Vindicator. Web range of 14km is really enough, you know.
Yes, I have 0.032 rad/sec tracking. How many times do I have to repeat myself?

Also, Solarius > just tell him Solarius says it's possible now deal with it

Actually, Mach can blap down to 15km on approach, just before rat pseudo-mwd turns off. AC tracking is completely different from Rails.

Signature Resolution 400 m <-*important*
You're using Large Rails with signature resolution of 400m to shoot frig rat with 35m sig radius orbiting at 2km. You're not hitting it while it's orbiting.

Any rat you may have hit is on approach, not orbiting, webbed or not.

The lack of transversal and sig bloom on approach is what makes the difference. AC's high tracking is a small factor in comparison.

You don't get it, do you?

Sure. I get that you shot some frig rats on approach with rails, and pretends you shot them when they were orbiting at 2k just because you had a web fitted.

Had to explain the impossibility throughly to those who don't know better so you don't fool them.

Never used a offgrid booster. What links would it use ? Or what would you use ?

So a dual web will work on hitting frigs np ? no matter how close ?

But losing tracking speed wont that hurt the rails//kronos ?

Lets apply some math here ok?

Lets take the example of the Arch Gistii Hunter:

Signature Radius: 35 m
Orbit Velocity: 225.0 m/s
Orbit Range: 2,000 m

And a 425mm Railgun II on a Vindicator with perfect skills and one T2 tracking computer scripted for tracking speed:

Tracking speed: 0.02258 rad/s
Signature resolution: 400 m

Now assuming that the Vindicator is stationary and that the Arch Gistii Hunter is happily orbiting at its preferred orbit speed and distance we need to find its angular velocity. The formula for this is velocity=2*pi*radius*angular velocity. So:

225=2*3.14159*2000*a

Which works out to a=0.0179049462214993. Now the gun has a signature resolution of 400 m and the Arch Gistii Hunter has a signature radius of 35 m. 400 / 35 = 11.44647637479293 which is applied as a multiplier to the Arch Gistii Hunters' angular velocity to determine its effective angular velocity when the 425mm railgun shoots at it.

This gives us an effective angular velocity of 0.2046279568171349, far above the 0.02258 tracking speed of the rail gun. So all the shots miss.

Now what if the Vindicator applies two 90% webs to the Arch Gistii Hunter? That cuts the speed of the frigate to about 6 m/s. And gives us a new angular velocity defined as:

6=2*3.14159*2000*a

Which works out to a=0.00047746523. Multiplied by our 11.44647637479293 angular velocity modifier we get an effective angular velocity of 0.0054567454857143 which is well below our rail gun's 0.02258 tracking speed and the frig dies in one volly.

If the Vindicator is only using one 90% web we get an effective angular velocity of 0.020494854391633 which is just below the tracking speed of our 425mm rail gun. So the frig still dies. But only because the tracking computer is scripted for tracking speed.


TL DR;


This.

ps: try a heavy-NOS, who needs 3 TB?

I use a fed navy web, tracking computer, heavy cap booster AND a faction ab for the mids.

Basically this provides decent range control, but as has been mentioned before, you should generally blap frigs before they make it to orbit range.

Grid is of no concern, I fitted NOS and a Cap Booster.

Why "waste" all 3 utility high slots on TBs if you can have a nice effect to keep you awake and busy while grinding ?
It's not a must-have by any means.