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TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 978	Posted - 2013.02.14 20:57:00 - [1] - Quote Bravo, Vaeliel. As for James CSM platform, I see it as partly satirising the idiotic crap we've seen other people - like trebor, ripard teg, etc - say, as well as the general consensus among so many of the highsec bears. Those kind of trammelification ideas have been pushed for years, a few have even been implemented, but they're not shouted out as insane and extreme (or at least not by many people).
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 978	Posted - 2013.02.14 21:08:00 - [2] - Quote Sexy Cakes wrote: Vaeliel wrote: Ask yourself this: How much does Eve really punish players now who can't be bothered to think and understand the game? How smart and on your toes do you actually have to be now to survive in the game and make progress? Eve has never punished players for being stupid, other players punish them for being stupid, and it happens on a daily basis. Putting a hardcap on the amount of douchebaggery one can inflict (introducing ore holds and buffing barges/exhumers, taking away insurance payout from suicide ganking) was long overdue. I'm all for teaching stupid people lessons the hard way, but allowing crap to go on like can flipping and insurance payouts to concorded ships was dumb and it took way too long for CCP to realize the definition of the word lame and how it was negatively affecting their new player retention. Things like that happen in a sandbox game though. As for your second question; you don't have to be smart or on your toes to make progress in this game, all you have to do is log in for less than 60 seconds a few times a week. P.S. I read all that crap in the hopes you would sum up what James315 grand plan is and save me the agony of reading all of his crap. Left dissapointed. Negatively affecting their new player retention Subscriptions doing nothing but increase (not counting the incarna fiasco) pick one, mate also, why should new player retention be held above OLD player retention. You've already got thousands upon thousands of people who have been paying month after month for years on end, if your attempts to retain new players alienate those players - the ones who are hooked, who are already a done deal - well that's just stupid
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 981	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:27:00 - [3] - Quote lmao at approximately three out of every four posts being either goonspiracy garbage, claiming anyone who even partly agrees with James an alt, or whining about PVPers in a game that is 99% PVP.
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 982	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:20:00 - [4] - Quote Estella Osoka wrote: TheGunslinger42 wrote: lmao at approximately three out of every four posts being either goonspiracy garbage, claiming anyone who even partly agrees with James an alt, or whining about PVPers in a game that is 99% PVP. 99%? You got proof/data to back up that number? Please explain to me exactly what ISN'T some form of PVP in EVE. Mining? Depletes resources others would use, the minerals being sold or used in manufacturing competes with others who sell and manufacture, etc Missioning? There's the loot/salvage that ends up on the market again competing with other traders, manufacturers, etc. Even if you don't bother with that and just take the bounties... well, the second you use that isk to buy anything of the market you're affecting the availability and price of modules and ships. Etc. I guess talking in chat channels and ship spinning in a noob ship are things that don't count as PVP
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 982	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:24:00 - [5] - Quote Laura Valu wrote: So I should stop having BADWRONG fun. Got it. Everything should be PVP all the time forever and anything that takes away from that is KILLING EVE OMG. The weirdest part is, you guys don't seem to really want PVP. Not really. If you wanted actual fights, you would be out in null, or W-Space. What you want is to shoot at noobs in mining barges, using ships specifically designed to be expendable, and then chest beat about how you showed those wimpy carebears. This post is full of fallacies and hypocrisy. For a start, wanting to blow up idiots in highsec is as valid a form of PVP as being part of a giant fleet fighting over sov in null. It's all pvp, it's all valid. The fact you try to discredit the pvp (when scummy bot aspirants are the victim) as even being pvp at all is dishonest. The fact that you want people who want to pvp to leave highsec to do it makes you a hypocrite.
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 983	Posted - 2013.02.15 16:11:00 - [6] - Quote March rabbit wrote: TheGunslinger42 wrote: Estella Osoka wrote: TheGunslinger42 wrote: lmao at approximately three out of every four posts being either goonspiracy garbage, claiming anyone who even partly agrees with James an alt, or whining about PVPers in a game that is 99% PVP. 99%? You got proof/data to back up that number? Please explain to me exactly what ISN'T some form of PVP in EVE. fail (as usual tho). To give proofs of your "99% PVP" you need to give a list of activities, attach it to PVP/PVE and then calculate. Or simply give a link to place where it was made already. Your variant is just evading question. And failed from start. There are thousands upon thousands of activities in EVE, and the vast majority of them are PVP. It's easier to address which ones aren't. I took the two most commonly suggested and showed how they are PVP too. So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 984	Posted - 2013.02.16 11:41:00 - [7] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied. Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc) Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna)
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 984	Posted - 2013.02.16 11:43:00 - [8] - Quote Benny Ohu wrote: Vin King wrote: Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning. Pod spinning is actually far too risky, what if during your frantic click-drag-clicking you misclick on the undock button? You're now in risky pvp space! Clearly we need some kind of safety mechanism to protect the Poor Newbs or EVE WILL DIE
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 984	Posted - 2013.02.16 18:30:00 - [9] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now. And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise. What is it that you want to see in Eve? Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden. You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec. Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP. This idea of being able to "not interact with others" is stupid and cannot be accomplished within EVE. It's one giant shard shared by everyone, one big economy shared by everyone, etc. You cannot opt out of interaction with people unless you completely redesign the game and take away some of the core defining aspects (that are clearly why it's survived and grown for ten straight years, while the countless wow-lite mmos have the lifespan of a mayfly) It truly astonishes me that people miss the entire point of EVE online and continue to play it for so long, and that they think these kinds of suggestions would be improvements to the game
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 987	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:53:00 - [10] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change. In one breath you praise the sandbox and the ability to support multiple playstyles, and in the next you basically say the sandbox should be drastically shrank and different playstyles be made impossible you must be trolling at this point Anyway, you simply cannot have a playstyle in EVE in which you are completely separated from everyone else. That simply is impossible due to the nature of the economy and being on a single shard. You can't just say "ahem, sandbox" in response to that, that's dumb. It is impossible to be isolated from everyone else.
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 990	Posted - 2013.02.19 12:26:00 - [11] - Quote Sarador Adonaj wrote: Funny how all of what James does seems to go away from "Carebear'ing without risk" towards "PvP'ing without risk". The only thing that's funny human stupidity. For example, thinking the New Orders activities in highsec are "without risk" when it's guaranteed that concord will blow you up if you fire upon someone first, and the other person is free to fight back, and will have kill rights, and can war dec you, and ... etc
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 1240	Posted - 2013.04.19 12:42:00 - [12] - Quote pussnheels wrote: dear OP some points i like to clear out First this is YOUR game and CCPs game not james his game , nor did james invented the wheel Second James is not a Elite pvper , his only claim to fame that he advocates the massive griefing of players with the sole intention to force them out of the game How can it be "his game" and "not james"? Don't you see the hypocrisy and stupidity of such a statement? What james and the new order do is not griefing, calm down dear, and the goal isn't to force players out of the game, james and the new order play the game in a way that they enjoy. If you can't handle someone else existing in the sandbox that is not their problem

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