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Jim Lovell
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:51:00 -
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Just posting to say that ive just finished training for a Raven with the goal of using it to do lvl 4 missions in, but now since the patch torps have become pretty inefective really, I noticed this in my Mega.On lvl4`s will a Raven still be effective against the BS and cruiser etc with the new missile skills at lvl4 and a decent ballistic control system ?
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Heritor
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:58:00 -
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Missles will still be effective against Battle Ships slightly less effective against Cruisers. To be really any good with missles you will need to train the relevent new skills to increase the damage that your missles do. You may also go down the road of specialisation now.
The downside to the new missle setup after patch is large missles will not remove the threat of small fast frigates that are very often in lvl4 missions. You will have to think about your Ravens loadout carefully. Alterenatively take a friend with you in an Asault frig and pwn all of them 
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:01:00 -
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On cruisers...no. Not without sacrificing so many slots to lower size missiles that you won't do the damage to the BS's required to break their tank...
On BS's...hard to say. Some seem to go down as easy as before, others seem to have found a way to take about half damage from torps (compared to prepatch). No, I'm not talking about resistances, as I'm comparing hull hits.
The Raven can still solo SOME level 4's, but certain ones now are (imho) either beyond it's abilities, or cost too much in terms of time and/or ammo reloads as to be not worthwhile.
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Jim Lovell
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:01:00 -
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Lol thx that was 1 idea take an Enyo with me or 2 :)
but what about lvl4 rouge drone etc, will the same apply to them as frigs?..
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Heritor
Missles will still be effective against Battle Ships slightly less effective against Cruisers. To be really any good with missles you will need to train the relevent new skills to increase the damage that your missles do. You may also go down the road of specialisation now.
The downside to the new missle setup after patch is large missles will not remove the threat of small fast frigates that are very often in lvl4 missions. You will have to think about your Ravens loadout carefully. Alterenatively take a friend with you in an Asault frig and pwn all of them
have u tried this?
i have all the skills to 4 - and i am doing about half what i was doing prepatch to guristas BSs - i think i will do even less to angel BSs cos they go faster (and i think many have a lower sig radius). i have found in many cases my torps do a similar amount of damage to cruisers as BSs, though usually >50 to frigs
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Beatlebug
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Posted - 2005.07.25 02:30:00 -
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I've heard rumers that the target painter helps with missile hits now. Not confermed, just heard.
BB
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.07.25 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 25/07/2005 04:00:00
Try this setup, the best I've been able to come up with for solo missionrunning:
Train all missile skills to 4, guided missile precision most importantly.
Train signature focussing, frequency modulation, and long distance jamming to 4.
6x cruise launchers
1x heavy nos
3x target painter 2's
3x cap recharger 2's
4x hardeners (perhaps trade one for a BCM)
1x large armor repper 2
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Simon Illian
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Posted - 2005.07.25 08:13:00 -
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since the patch i've do some test.
With my scorpion, with all new skill to 3 i use the SAME amount of Torp to destroy a Scorpion NPC Guristas.
Now i'm in a raven ... and i pownd any Guristas bs in a so Low amount of time than .....
Raven own a lot GUristas NPC.
In my raven i've destroy the tank of a 4.5M Dread Gursitas in less than 1 volley ... and i'm Torpedo level 2.
So now you must have skill to do the job but i love it.
My only problem is small target, my 8 drones have somes problems with them ... but it's logic.
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Posted - 2005.07.25 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Illian
since the patch i've do some test.
With my scorpion, with all new skill to 3 i use the SAME amount of Torp to destroy a Scorpion NPC Guristas.
Now i'm in a raven ... and i pownd any Guristas bs in a so Low amount of time than .....
Raven own a lot GUristas NPC.
In my raven i've destroy the tank of a 4.5M Dread Gursitas in less than 1 volley ... and i'm Torpedo level 2.
So now you must have skill to do the job but i love it.
My only problem is small target, my 8 drones have somes problems with them ... but it's logic.
This post concerns me greatly. I have all the skills to level 4 now, and these are NOT the results I am seeing. Certainly taking the shield from a 4.5 mill DG in one volley I would say is simply impossible (for me)...do you remember how much damage the log said each torpedo was hitting for? What damage type torpedoes were they?
Have you done the Level 4 "Duo of Death" mission? The two Massacrers on that mission take me some minutes to destroy...I would be interested to know how you do that one, and also if you don't mind, share any details of your setup. If you're using five Caldari Navy Ballistic controls then it's a bit of a cheat!
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