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Karada Delrae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:20:00 -
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I always assumed the point of eve was to work with other people, but I notice a lot talk about their alts. Like for hauling, or cyno alts trade alts etc.
Is this actually required to get total enjoyment out of the game? Is it not possible to just have one character and focus on it?
Do the majority of players have alts? |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:24:00 -
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Karada Delrae wrote:I always assumed the point of eve was to work with other people, but I notice a lot talk about their alts. Like for hauling, or cyno alts trade alts etc.
Is this actually required to get total enjoyment out of the game? Is it not possible to just have one character and focus on it?
Do the majority of players have alts?
Nope. They help, and Eve is definitely an easy game to multibox in, but they're not required at all. I've never had more than one and I usually don't have any. |
Karrl Tian
Exiled Assassins
191
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:26:00 -
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No.
But CCP gets more money from them so....POWER OF TWO! START A SIDE-KICK! |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2712
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:29:00 -
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Not at all*. They are useful though, which is why CCP gives you 3 character slots per account.
*I've even got a couple friends who are capital pilots who only have one account.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
332
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:33:00 -
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I play with one character. Exclusively. I feel alts are a way to make up for a lack of friends, or the ability to make them. While I might not be as competative solo in terms of PvP, trading and ISK farming, I can do a lot of stuff on a single character and can cash in on many different oppurtunities. I don't feel like I need an alt, I enjoy spending as much time as possible on this character interacting with people that complement my skill and playstyle. In terms of fun I'm not missing out or anything. |
Liam Li
The Graduates
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:45:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I play with one character. Exclusively. I feel alts are a way to make up for a lack of friends, or the ability to make them. While I might not be as competative solo in terms of PvP, trading and ISK farming, I can do a lot of stuff on a single character and can cash in on many different oppurtunities. I don't feel like I need an alt, I enjoy spending as much time as possible on this character interacting with people that complement my skill and playstyle. In terms of fun I'm not missing out or anything.
True, but having some kind of alt shows you can handle independence when **** hits the fan and you have no one to rely on which did happen to me once unfortunately. You get kicked out of a corp, alliance disbands, the awesome friend you made during your noob days quits eve out of nowhere; Basically people do come and go, but for example that cyno alt you own can ninja evacuate your carrier out of 0.0 to lowsec and it will always stay with you.
<-- And plus I can keep my main exclusively sub-capital focused so I don't have to waste valuable SP on a bunch of capital skills that I won't even get to used 75%-80 of time I'm on eve. |
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:49:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I play with one character. Exclusively. I feel alts are a way to make up for a lack of friends, or the ability to make them. While I might not be as competative solo in terms of PvP, trading and ISK farming, I can do a lot of stuff on a single character and can cash in on many different oppurtunities. I don't feel like I need an alt, I enjoy spending as much time as possible on this character interacting with people that complement my skill and playstyle. In terms of fun I'm not missing out or anything.
That is until you get any ship that needs cyno alts/scouts to move itself around(JF/carrier etc). |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
579
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:49:00 -
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Karada Delrae wrote:I always assumed the point of eve was to work with other people, but I notice a lot talk about their alts. Like for hauling, or cyno alts trade alts etc.
Is this actually required to get total enjoyment out of the game? Is it not possible to just have one character and focus on it?
Do the majority of players have alts?
If you are negative ten it is more comfortable to have an Alt that is able to travel/scout highsec unharmed or to loot the wrecks of victims...
Certain playstyles benefit of it...but it is not vital.
"Also, your boobs  " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
50
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:50:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Not at all*. They are useful though, which is why CCP gives you 3 character slots per account.
*I've even got a couple friends who are capital pilots who only have one account.
friends, no alts, capital pilots... oh Pinocchio when will you stop the lying, i can see your nose from here. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
982
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:56:00 -
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Anyone who travels through lo-sec without using an alt to scout ahead is told that they are a fool etc, so it would seem that an alt is required.
This is not a signature. |
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Karada Delrae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:12:00 -
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I have a ten mil sp character that I'm focusing on combat skillsmaller ships. If i were to do an alt what would be a good fit? Trade? |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:14:00 -
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Karada Delrae wrote:I have a ten mil sp character that I'm focusing on combat skillsmaller ships. If i were to do an alt what would be a good fit? Trade?
Depends what your goals are.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Karada Delrae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:16:00 -
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I guess my goals are to pvp, eventually get into a decent corp. This game still confuses me, I'm not that great lol. |
Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out
Suddenly Spaceships.
30196
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:25:00 -
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Don't Forget you need a Forum Warrior Alt 
I lack any Moral Fiber :D |
Signal11th
The Retirement Club
893
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:32:00 -
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Not needed but when you have one you wondered why you never got one at the start, As I said not needed but they make life in EVE so much easier.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians
Iberians.
218
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Posted - 2013.02.15 08:34:00 -
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Karada Delrae wrote:I guess my goals are to pvp, eventually get into a decent corp. This game still confuses me, I'm not that great lol.
Alts are very useful. They can scout for you so you'll be safer. They can scan for you and warp you on top of the moron who doesn't click on D-scan enough, and they can wait in optimal with their Falcons, ready to save your ass and frustrate your attacker to no end. If you become a low sec pirate and your sec status drops so much that you cannot go to High Sec to resupply, your alt will go shopping for you.
Or you can (for the moment) put your T3 boosting alt inside a POS and enjoy the bonus.
Also, while your main is remapped Per/Will and struggling to get his/her ass in to new and powerful ships, you can train your alt in Invention, Trade, Planetary Interaction or Mining, and have him/her earn ISK for you.
This said, they are not "required" per se. I only have this account, and an untrained alt. One is sitting in Jita for price checking, for example.
It's just convenient. |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace
That Red Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.15 09:47:00 -
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Totally depends what you want to do.
They're not a necessity but they can be incredibly handy.
If you want a character say in an enemy corp and you don't want it tied back to you a character on a separate account would be a huge help.
If you do a lot of logistics and use jump freighters then a couple of alts (one at each end) helps greatly rather than constantly calling for friends to drop you cynos.
It's also useful if you wanted to station trade in Jita while waiting for fleets to form etc.
Of if you wanted to have more than the small number of production lines, research slots or contracts that are available to you.
There's a multitude of potential uses for them, all of which can be filled by other players but also by an alt if you wanted to. |
Lors Dornick
Perkone
Caldari State
422
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:19:00 -
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I think most people uses all 3 slots on their character, if just for PC/Market or for extra PI or extra research/manufacturing (or Chat/Forum Trolls/Warriors).
And many have (ab)used the Buddy system to create temporary alt accounts for various reasons (testing stuff, hauling, extra miner, cynos, trolling ...)
A proper paid for secondary/support account is very useful for most styles of play and no matter how many friends you have in game.
But I wouldn't say that it's a necessity (except possibly for hardcore miners)
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
R O G U E
226
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:19:00 -
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8 years and no alts... and i do just fine :-P |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:24:00 -
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I would say a majority of people have had at least 1 alt. Is it required? No. Does it have major benefits? Yes |
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Dex Thunakar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:28:00 -
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Alts are great if you want 1 highsec character and 1low/sec character (or 1 char with positive sec standing and one with negative sec standing).
Or industry alts are very popular too, for 10 extra manufacturing/research jobs.
Also... quite useful when you're by yourself and you have to jump through low-sec, you can use your alt to scout and not lose your expensive ships on your main. |
Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:40:00 -
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Karada Delrae wrote:
Is this actually required to get total enjoyment out of the game? Is it not possible to just have one character and focus on it?
Do the majority of players have alts?
Stricly speaking, you can just go with one character and EVE will play fine for most casual players.
Beyond that, you'd need at least 2 accounts (which translate into 6 characters) to get the best play out of EVE. Think parallel.
Long ago CCP released stats that the average accounts PER player is 2 (sorry, I cba to dig the reference).
I'd say most players you intereact wth will have alts .. give or take from the average.
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Solstice Project
Brave Newbies Inc.
2748
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:45:00 -
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No they aren't.
Just play your character and develop it.
Don't believe morons who come up with the "jack of all"-bullshit who can't do anything right.
There's a levelcap for each skill and they even with alts, nobody can learn (player experience)
several things at once.
Alts just make the game easy.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
332
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:53:00 -
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Liam Li wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I play with one character. Exclusively. I feel alts are a way to make up for a lack of friends, or the ability to make them. While I might not be as competative solo in terms of PvP, trading and ISK farming, I can do a lot of stuff on a single character and can cash in on many different oppurtunities. I don't feel like I need an alt, I enjoy spending as much time as possible on this character interacting with people that complement my skill and playstyle. In terms of fun I'm not missing out or anything. True, but having some kind of alt shows you can handle independence when **** hits the fan and you have no one to rely on which did happen to me once unfortunately. You get kicked out of a corp, alliance disbands, the awesome friend you made during your noob days quits eve out of nowhere; Basically people do come and go, but for example that cyno alt you own can ninja evacuate your carrier out of 0.0 to lowsec and it will always stay with you.
Having a well developed main has the same effect IMO. I reckon dependence on one another is part if the game design and pretty much the developer's intent. I'd rather embrace those mechanics instead of using an alt. While valid points are being made and ships like JF/Carrier needs Cyno support, I'll simply not use those ships if I can't get that type of support from other players. Should that mean that I lose a ship when **** hits the fan, so be it. I can live with those risks. |
Quit Whining
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:58:00 -
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Try moving capitals solo or owning a Super without any alts... |
Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
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Posted - 2013.02.15 11:08:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:No they aren't.
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Alts just make the game easy.
Alts make the game easier, safer and more profitable, and if you plan your alt account right it pays for it self.
You need to make sure you can generate as much passive income as possible, good PI skills and research agents on all 3 characters helps. Trade, production and research/invention can also generate profits with a minimum time investment.
Once you have trained the needed skills on each character you can pick one and train for scout, cyno, capital babysitter, whatever. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
973
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Posted - 2013.02.15 13:18:00 -
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Alts make the game easier.
Friends make the game easier and have the added benefit of you not having to talk to yourself all the time.
The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
Whitehound
824
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Posted - 2013.02.15 13:33:00 -
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No, alts are not required and one can play with a single character.
Further, clothing is not required and one can play EVE naked. 
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
570
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Posted - 2013.02.15 13:49:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Anyone who travels through lo-sec without using an alt to scout ahead is told that they are a fool etc, so it would seem that an alt is required.
Unless playing in high sec, even then, once someone used an alt and understood the advantages of having one can admit have an alt account in Eve is not really an option. -hence the name "alts on line" from some other communities.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Liquid Lucifer Industries
28
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:36:00 -
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I know only one character can train skills per account, I assume that also means only one character per account can be logged in at a time so to be most useful you need a second account right? |
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