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Mitram
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Posted - 2005.07.25 14:53:00 -
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I question that after playing for some time with the recent patch.
The game play was made worse. Let me list the things:
- EVE needs more CPU power. It is still possible to play two accounts on one 3GHz P4 /6800GT/2GRam but you have to live with 15-20fps.
- The longer travel in empire does not serve any purpose other than making empire slow or dangerous. Just have a look at the map and the many low-sec systems and pod-kills.
- So many new skills just consume time.
- Missions were already screwed before the last patch. Where is the fun having to travel 1-2 jumps for your gimp mission?
I don't see any additional fun in the recent patches.
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Lord Stone
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Posted - 2005.07.25 14:56:00 -
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I beg you then, cancel your account. Most of us are very happy with the changes introduced in the latest patch.
Thank you. Bye.
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2005.07.25 14:58:00 -
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Yes... it have a future, maybe not for those who can't adapt.. .but for those who can adapt it definitly got a future.
Now I am no pirate, no pvp'er and I have run plenty of missions... but I don't think latest patches have ruined my gameplay... infact I would say the opposite it have made my gameplay better!!!
oh and btw, my hardware is a AMD xp 1800+, 1 GB Ram, X800 Pro 256 mb graphic card, and I run 2 accounts on my computer with minimum of lag, yes I don't expect to run a two man army raging around killing everything I see, but it still serves it purpose for me... oh and no I never used two accounts to do a lvl 4 mission, I used to and still do them with my main account alone.
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.07.25 14:59:00 -
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I can run 2 accounts at 30-50 fps with AMD 64 3200+, 1GB ram, TI 4600
1152x864 with medium settings on graphics (16bit)
Sound off
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:00:00 -
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your stuff can i have ? yeeeeeeeeeees.
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Larsson7
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:03:00 -
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EvE is what you make it.
Dont like travel? I would love to go from Curse to Venal in 6 minutes - but where is the fun in that? There is much to explore and much to see - do you think space travel everywhere should be instantaneous? I often need to fly an 80 jump round trip and its just one of those things you have to do.
Skill training is essential to make you a better player. Lets look at WoW. You can simply grind your way to level 60 and then you stop. What do you do once you achieve a lvl 60 character? Doesnt the fun kinda stop?
My own character had almost perfect Caldari and missle skills and now he does not. No biggie - I got a whole range of new skills I can train to make him even better in PvP and PvE. If I find I dont like being Caldari - I can switch and go to another race.
Missions prior to the patch often forced me to go two or 3 jumps to complete - but it was always the same 2 or 3 systems. Get in a shuttle, make your bookmarks and you are set! Its not the end of the world.
EvE is what you make of it. It is the people who inhabit the game. It is the people you fly with and fight against. It is about exploration and discovery. Its about achievement and loss. I am extremely fortunate to be in such a great Corp and Alliance which allows me to fly and interact with some of the best players in the game.
Look around and explore. If your Corp/Alliance is not fulfilling then move on. Interact and try new things. If you think that EvE will satisfy you by just running missions in Empire then you probably will bore of it quickly.
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Stratego
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Lord Stone
I beg you then, cancel your account. Most of us are very happy with the changes introduced in the latest patch.
Thank you. Bye.
I second that!
BOB are BOB 5 are BOB and together we make BOOBIE5.
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mitram
- EVE needs more CPU power. It is still possible to play two accounts on one 3GHz P4 /6800GT/2GRam but you have to live with 15-20fps.
What? I think that's something to do with your computer's configuration or your hardware, because I can run 3 accounts smoothly on an even less juicy PC. Okay, not as smooth as when I run one client, but very playable and barely a pain in the ass.
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- The longer travel in empire does not serve any purpose other than making empire slow or dangerous. Just have a look at the map and the many low-sec systems and pod-kills.
I think that's the purpose of the changes, and to encourage people to stick to a region rather than to be able to reach 5 or more market regions within 10 jumps.
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- So many new skills just consume time.
Well, I dunno, I think I agree on some skills, but most of the new skills are useful and thus worth the time. Learning is part of the game.
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- Missions were already screwed before the last patch. Where is the fun having to travel 1-2 jumps for your gimp mission?
I don't think 1 or 2 jumps is too much to travel for a mission that is rewarding, you'll have to do something for it. What's next, people asking for a "complete mission" button in the journal? :)
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I don't see any additional fun in the recent patches.
I disagree. I like the missile overhaul, I like most or all the new ships, modules, skills and possibilities, I like the improved client interface and additional functions that make life easier, I like unicode support, I like the new implants, I like the increased rate of commander spawns, are you truly of the opinion that all of the above listed points aren't giving you any additional fun?
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Gangaric
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:08:00 -
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Great Post Larsson7, nicely put 
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:08:00 -
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Does WoW have a future? No, it's player base lasts about 3 months or less per player.
Does EVE have a future? I'm soon 2 years old, need I say more?
The whole concept of EVE is actually pretty timeless, it's only the actual player base that'll need some refreshing in another two years or so (i.e. too many extreme-skill pointed chars). The rest of EVE is only constant server upgrades in order to support more players.
EVE is just about the first and currently only MASSIVE multiplayer online game out there. Any other game either has too few players or too static game world (can you say WoW - Worlds of no Change at ALL?).
I'm waiting for CCP to allow players to start conflicts with NPC factions. Thukker Tribe out of Great Wildlands!
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:08:00 -
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*shakes head*
Originally by: Mitram
- EVE needs more CPU power. It is still possible to play two accounts on one 3GHz P4 /6800GT/2GRam but you have to live with 15-20fps.
And this is related to the recent patch ... how?
Originally by: Mitram
- The longer travel in empire does not serve any purpose other than making empire slow or dangerous. Just have a look at the map and the many low-sec systems and pod-kills.
Your head would have exploded if you saw the travel times before highway jumps and autopilot went in.
Originally by: Mitram
- So many new skills just consume time.
What's the matter, can't powerlevel your character like you can in WoW? EVE's style of character advancement is different, in case you hadn't noticed. Plus, the new skills make it so you don't see everyone flying around with a capital ship, cheapening the effort to get one.
Originally by: Mitram
- Missions were already screwed before the last patch. Where is the fun having to travel 1-2 jumps for your gimp mission?
Is there a specific gripe about missions you'd like to voice? Because the point you made is so generalized you could be complaining about the mission journal interface or something.
Originally by: Mitram
I don't see any additional fun in the recent patches.
There's a significant portion of the playerbase that does. I'm not suggesting your opinion should be marginalized, but you provide nothing in your post to back up your complaints.
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Lan2
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lan2 on 25/07/2005 15:17:15
Originally by: Mitram
I question that after playing for some time with the recent patch.
The game play was made worse. Let me list the things:
- EVE needs more CPU power. It is still possible to play two accounts on one 3GHz P4 /6800GT/2GRam but you have to live with 15-20fps.
I get 24fps (average, 20-28 range normaly) with 2 clients running on a system with a 2500XP+ AMD, 512MB RAM. With 3 running I get about 18fps on each one
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:18:00 -
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Everytime somthing in eve changes people proclaim the sky is falling and Eve is not gonna last.
Eve will keep going, the fact that it changes constantly over time is one of the reasons the game is stays fresh and interesting for most players.
Some will always quit because they don't the changes and more new players join to take their place.
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DarK
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:22:00 -
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It's called being spoilt. Once you experience things the easy way, you don't want to have to work harder to acchieve the same thing.
More skills is a good thing, was getting to the point where I was going to train industry skills >.<
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bungle2k 2
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:29:00 -
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I Have been playing eve for about 7 months now, i'm not sure if i like the patch or not, but i cant see the point of *****ing in the forums about it, cos all u get is ppl coming back saying "well if u dont like it leave", i think that is a really dumb thing to say. What happens if to many ppl read post like that, lets say that those ppl do start to leave, how many players does it take to keep eve running ????
if to many ppl leave then at some point CCP might have to stop the servers cos there isnt enough money coming in.
My point to this is ppl have the right to complain if they are paying for the game, if they dont like it for some resson then let them, but on the other hand all u ppl out there that like eve and read the forum and reply to posts the ppl place, if u dont have something constructive to say then dont say anything at all
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:30:00 -
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As paying customers players have the right to complain all they want. But as paying customers players also have the right to tell the whiners to shut the hell up.
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Lord Stone
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
As paying customers players have the right to complain all they want. But as paying customers players also have the right to tell the whiners to shut the hell up.
exactly.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mitram
The game play was made worse. Let me list the things:
- EVE needs more CPU power. It is still possible to play two accounts on one 3GHz P4 /6800GT/2GRam but you have to live with 15-20fps.
I can play two accounts on this machine as it's uber, I tried it on my Brother's machine (3ghz, 256mb Radeon 9800, 1GB DRR 3200, Audigy 2 ZS) and got decent FPS on both on that machine too (30 - 70 FPS).
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bungle2k 2
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
As paying customers players have the right to complain all they want. But as paying customers players also have the right to tell the whiners to shut the hell up.
so what u r saying is that u want the whiners to leave the game ?????
hmmm how long will eve last with that sort of customer ????
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: bungle2k 2
My point to this is ppl have the right to complain if they are paying for the game, if they dont like it for some resson then let them, but on the other hand all u ppl out there that like eve and read the forum and reply to posts the ppl place, if u dont have something constructive to say then dont say anything at all
Yeah, ok.
But I thought my reply was about as constructive as can be. The OP hasn't replied to it, and the only reason I can theorize for that little anomaly is that I hit the nail on the head with one or more of my points.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: bungle2k 2
so what u r saying is that u want the whiners to leave the game ?????
That's actually completely incorrect.
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bungle2k 2
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:47:00 -
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this is the main comment i was refering to
Originally by: Lord Stone
I beg you then, cancel your account. Most of us are very happy with the changes introduced in the latest patch.
Thank you. Bye.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:52:00 -
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Those BoB replies are quite sad to read, while Lord Stone sig explains it a bit 
There's nothing wrong with people voicing their concerns or frustration guys.
If you disagree, make your point in a civilized and intelligent manner, or simply don't reply.
Replying like a turd doesn't help anyone and only gives the community a bad reputation.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: bungle2k 2
Originally by: Wild Rho
As paying customers players have the right to complain all they want. But as paying customers players also have the right to tell the whiners to shut the hell up.
so what u r saying is that u want the whiners to leave the game ?????
hmmm how long will eve last with that sort of customer ????
No what im saying is what I've posted. Where did I say about ANYONE leaving the game? Stop trying to twist somthing to make an argument.
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bungle2k 2
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Those BoB replies are quite sad to read, while Lord Stone sig explains it a bit
There's nothing wrong with people voicing their concerns or frustration guys.
If you disagree, make your point in a civilized and intelligent manner, or simply don't reply.
Replying like a turd doesn't help anyone and only gives the community a bad reputation.
thank you, someone actually understands what i am saying 
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GeekWarrior
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mitram
I question that after playing for some time with the recent patch.
The game play was made worse. Let me list the things:
- EVE needs more CPU power. It is still possible to play two accounts on one 3GHz P4 /6800GT/2GRam but you have to live with 15-20fps.
- The longer travel in empire does not serve any purpose other than making empire slow or dangerous. Just have a look at the map and the many low-sec systems and pod-kills.
- So many new skills just consume time.
- Missions were already screwed before the last patch. Where is the fun having to travel 1-2 jumps for your gimp mission?
I don't see any additional fun in the recent patches.
I don't care what the stats of your comp are, there's something wrong there. I run 3 accounts very often on my laptop on 24kbps dialup. Stop whining
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Lord Stone
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:04:00 -
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well, seeing as this post is a summary post of about 2341234 other whine posts from the last 2 weeks, and all of these concerns have been adressed in those posts, in deapth, I just don't see the need for 1 more post like this, whining over the exact same thing.
Thus, I have to assume that the poster is simply trolling and I for one don't like trolls.
And btw, I run 2 accounts on a XP2500+, 512mb RAM, Geforce 4 Ti4200 quite smoothly, you should virus scan, spybot scan and update drivers.
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:13:00 -
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In before the lock. 
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Alvara
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:18:00 -
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I run 2 accts relatively painlessly on a laptop with a Pentium M 1700 and a gig of ram.
Thats 2 accts simultaneously in a mission together.
My 2nd acct runs around and picks up all the loot for me in a Viator. <-- Amazing how much more enjoyable missions are when doing this.
I am enjoying Eve again after patch.
Was almost ready to quit, heck I had reopened my DAoC account.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:23:00 -
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I have 1GB of RAM and a Pentium 4 processor (think its 3GHz but cant check it right now) and I cannot run two accounts. I get slow performance and then the computer just reboots by itself (which caused me to die several times when using a covert ops and HAC in tandem). I used to have an ATI Radeon 9800Pro but the issue still happens after switching cards.
Lots of us are having problems with the game, and some of us are putting up with it quietly, and others are not. There is no need for the "stfu, adapt or die" comments. Criticising CCP should never be met by personal attacks. If people cannot freely voice their opinions, then they may take a more radical approach to be heard.
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