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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:28:00 -
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I always get confused about people that are complaining about various station games. If someone won't fight you anywhere other than at a station what exactly is forcing you to fight them at all? |
xenodia
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
2
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:49:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:xenodia wrote:8. Dont fight near a station.
Make the neutral logistics expose themselves at a spot where they cant just dock to escape aggression, and you will find that suddenly the neutral RR problem dissappears. For some reason, all those neutral guardian alts dont seem to want to get aggression flagged without the safety of a station sitting next to them :) The station jockeys won't fight away from them, though. I've seen whole corps that operate purely by waiting for war targets to come into trade hubs so they can hit them on the undock. Besides, it's far more satisfying to beat them at their game.
one of the worst tactical mistakes you can make is fighting an enemy on terms that they dictate. If they wont engage away from station, then guess what... they pay for a wardec that they get no joy out of, and will probably end it quickly. Make them choose to either come out of their comfort zone (and safe neutral RR zone) by fighting off grid from stations, or pay for a war that they cant/wont fight.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:25:00 -
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xenodia wrote:
one of the worst tactical mistakes you can make is fighting an enemy on terms that they dictate. If they wont engage away from station, then guess what... they pay for a wardec that they get no joy out of, and will probably end it quickly. Make them choose to either come out of their comfort zone (and safe neutral RR zone) by fighting off grid from stations, or pay for a war that they cant/wont fight.
If your enemy sits in the same spot day after day doing the same thing, you are perfectly able to dictate terms. You have all the time you want to plan and execute a trap for the neutral logi.
Passing him by and ignoring him is effective. I just prefer the method of making them regret ever messing with me.
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Borun Tal
One More Corp
4
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Posted - 2011.11.04 22:37:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
If your enemy sits in the same spot day after day doing the same thing, you are perfectly able to dictate terms. You have all the time you want to plan and execute a trap for the neutral logi.
This. +1 |
Desudes
Federal Defence Union
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:22:00 -
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The only time I had to deal with neutral RR we just webbed the **** out of the target ship and ate his face off with overheated blasters and ogres, willy-nilly their RR. Go team 1k dps domi's. **** yo reppers.
If the logi are close range, vampire domi them. A dominix will pull 450dps on the primarily while pumping 3-4 neuts into someone while having a huge shield buffer tank. If they are far off: got any Curse pilots? Hell, use sniper HACs if the logi are speed tanking.
Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu? |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
17
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Posted - 2011.11.05 08:55:00 -
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This whole thread is "I see your neutral logi and raise you an improbable confluence of factors that will somehow make hisec station hugging and hisec PVP, in general, suck less than a crack ***** on a pizzle bender".
The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man.
Sun Tzu
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Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
0
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Posted - 2011.11.05 13:32:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:xenodia wrote:8. Dont fight near a station.
Make the neutral logistics expose themselves at a spot where they cant just dock to escape aggression, and you will find that suddenly the neutral RR problem dissappears. For some reason, all those neutral guardian alts dont seem to want to get aggression flagged without the safety of a station sitting next to them :) The station jockeys won't fight away from them, though. I've seen whole corps that operate purely by waiting for war targets to come into trade hubs so they can hit them on the undock. Besides, it's far more satisfying to beat them at their game.
Than Alpha them is the way to go, while ecm would still work (and need less ships), it would not be anymore their game. Just like not fighting at stations.
Alpha the **** out of them and docking games won-¦t work very well anymore.
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Playing the game of life means to pvp. Get used to it or become extinct. |
shal ri
Zanzibar Land
1
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Posted - 2011.11.07 22:44:00 -
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if they wont fight off station then they suck at pvp and u simply just dont have to worry about them any way.
ps low sec is the same way the with ppl not wantin to fight off stations if they do its most likely a blob and u die any way.ofc theres always those rare moments when **** goes ur way. who doesnt like being outnumbered 3 to 1 and kickin enemy fleet ass. |
Via Shivon
Kriegsmarinewerft
Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.11.09 08:30:00 -
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the best tactic would be that ccp fixes this BUGUSING **** = agression for helping, byebye logi  |
Letseatlunch
DSC inc
RED Citizens
0
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Posted - 2011.11.09 12:08:00 -
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Leysritt wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:8. Get out of highsec and just shoot the damn things. War Dec aggressors won't come out of highsec to fight us. They fight with 20 neutral logistic ships repping them. They won't fight us if we bring 50 people. Got any cheap and dirty tactics to help us win and kill them?
20 neutral logi? If these battles are happening near gates and stations there is no way to combat that other than bringing your own 20+ neutral logi. If you are an industrial corp just pay them off, its quicker. Unforunately there isn't that magic answer your looking for. The ECM drones would work but not against 20 nuetral logi, same with nuets/nos and damps. Even if it was effect against half of them thats still 10 logi boats to keep their fleet alive long enough to kill you. Not to mention if you spend so much effort combating the logi boats you're not going to be focused on the actual war targets making it easy for them to kill you. |
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