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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.07.27 11:37:00 -
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Agreed
I'm tired of
- Getting stuck when be ejected like a turd from the bottom of stations
- Not being able to cloak in a cov ops fo about a minute after undocking
- Being 100km away from someone when they warp in on the other side of a station.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:21:00 -
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I love the new sizes, have not had any docking/undocking problems. And if you are honestly warping 100k aay from others warping to the station then tough ****. Welcome to a bit of realism where you can't expect everyone to undock and dock at the exact same pinhole point of a station.
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Sathanis LeFleur
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I vote BUST.
In the past week, giant stations have robbed me of many screaming, laser-ravaged corpses. I know Dreadnoughts are big and that's probably why you made stations big to match, but please reconsider this new Star Jones-izing of station models.
Please, think of the griefers.
Adapt or Quit.... better yet just quit.. and give me your stuff first 
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:52:00 -
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Well...there is always somebody to complain about something
Just on a realistic point of view, I prefer bigger stations.
However undocking still sucks...
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:58:00 -
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Personally I used to feel that it was pushing belief that some of the stations could hold more than a couple of cruisers, let alone battleships - thats better now and I like it 
Textures apropriate to the size would be good, but I suspect I can count the texture changes that have happened since launch on one hand, so I'd have to say that would be a pleasent surprise if it happened.
Certain stations have always gotten people (temporarily) stuck and it really would be nice to see that fixed no argument.
As to docking changes brought about by it, I think in general I support anything that makes a gank a little less automatic, so long as the system in general is steered towards it being at least possible to fight.
That might not have made much sense outside of my head
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:00:00 -
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A valid point no less. Maybe they could make it so that dreads and freighters can only dock at a certain type of station and only make those stations extra large.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sathanis LeFleur
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I vote BUST.
In the past week, giant stations have robbed me of many screaming, laser-ravaged corpses. I know Dreadnoughts are big and that's probably why you made stations big to match, but please reconsider this new Star Jones-izing of station models.
Please, think of the griefers.
Adapt or Quit.... better yet just quit.. and give me your stuff first
Random alts telling HG to quit = why i read these forums.
The larger stations, combined with the breakdown of the highways, has to be absolutely terrible for all of the empire mercs/war deccers. Luckily I live in 0.0 so mahah. Oh wait crap theres stations here too... ****.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.07.27 17:14:00 -
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So much hate. Why can't people disagree without telling me to kill my char at the same time? Now my emotions are in tatters :(
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.07.27 17:21:00 -
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"Why can't people disagree without telling me to kill my char at the same time? Now my emotions are in tatters :("
Somewhere out there, fully stocked corporation hangars wake up in cold sweat, filled with irrational sense of impending doom... ;s
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Ralisk Malkshar
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Posted - 2005.07.28 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
I love the new sizes, have not had any docking/undocking problems. And if you are honestly warping 100k aay from others warping to the station then tough ****. Welcome to a bit of realism where you can't expect everyone to undock and dock at the exact same pinhole point of a station.
Precisely. Thank you Guardian.
As the gankers love to point out that their added danger is "just like real life", so they must also accept this inability to predict where a ship will appear, just like in real life.
Of course, in real life, you'd all [the ppl whose chars are nothing more than extensions of their own cold, black putrescence] be put away.. either in the ground or in jail. Or living in countries with low-security and no extradition treaties, and most good people don't have to deal...even know...about you.
But us "carebears" are in CCP's world.. and what's their acronym again? yes exactly... thus no surprise.
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Pherus
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Posted - 2005.07.28 20:53:00 -
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Quote:
Others brought up another point - instadock bookmarks are now flawless and work from absolutely everywhere. This entire change has been bad for pvp in general.
rotflmao!, that is so lame. If I was a PVP'er i'd be out in the belts going after the action not being a lamer and waiting for something to happen.
I tells ya, it's people like that who give PVP a bad name. Remember risk=isk ;)
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.28 21:02:00 -
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It sucks. 
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.07.28 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Pherus
rotflmao!, that is so lame. If I was a PVP'er i'd be out in the belts going after the action not being a lamer and waiting for something to happen.
I tells ya, it's people like that who give PVP a bad name. Remember risk=isk ;)
Thanks for your input, ALT.
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Pherus
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Posted - 2005.07.28 21:13:00 -
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OMG!, you sussed I am an alt!, wanna medal? 
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2005.07.28 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ixianus on 28/07/2005 21:34:44
Come now, not to say that Istvaan is any kind of wonderful godly person, but I think it is safe to say that his opinions are in the best interest of the realism of Eve, that the only responce you can conjure up is "quit the game laabdee laabdee laabdee" is a bit disappointing.
Im not exactly in love with the new station sizes myself, I zoomed out on one of the Caldari stations only to find that it occupied a volume almost the same as the moon it was orbiting, or somewhere in the neighborhood of 2/3 the moon's volume. Given that the societies inhabiting Eve are extremely advanced, I still think this kind of size is a bit outrageous.
The sense of scale is comepletely thrown out of the window when looking at battle ships, industrials, frigates, pretty much anything you can fly, given the new station scaling. In the Amarr stations, for instance, the vehicles are the size of punishers, individual windows are the size of punishers, the lamp-posts along the "walk-ways" are the size of punishers; not to mention the fact that the textures are absolutely terrible at this new scale.
Perhaps a slight scaling down is in order, or adding completely separate docked visuals for dreds/freighters, seeing as this is one of the primary arguements for the change in station size. Either this, or make the textures and objects more reasonable to this new scale.
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:17:00 -
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Who cares about HG or whatever he did?
It's the topic at hand now that's important, and I think he's right about it.
First few times I noticed that when I warp in at 15km, and an undocking ship was like 65km away, I thought my overview was bugged, so closed it and reopened, after that I relogged, and than I stopped wondering...
I just wonder why there are unneeded changes in every patch, changes nobody asked for, and just ****s things up.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
The larger stations, combined with the breakdown of the highways, has to be absolutely terrible for all of the empire mercs/war deccers.
Not at all. The routes make the travel to fight a bit longer, but this, in my opinion, adds to the game. Means you actually have a border zone to fight over rather than a quick 4 jump hop on the highway.
I also like the big stations, makes it look much more realistic. Its not as easy to snag people at stations, but theres other ways.
We just adapted. Its not terrible, I prefer it.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
I just wonder why there are unneeded changes in every patch, changes nobody asked for, and just ****s things up.
Hundreds of people have been asking for larger stations ever since ive been playing this game.
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Toshiro Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:28:00 -
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Don't you just love it..
Before the changes it was whaaa stations look ghey coz their so small.. we want bigger stations.
after the changes.. its now whaaa stations a ghey coz their so big.. we want the small stations back.
Just looks like a case of a similar whine.. light, yet fruity.. both of a bad vintage.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.07.29 11:34:00 -
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I don't have a problem with the larger stations making it harder to camp them. It should take a lot of effort to lock down such strategically important locations.
The problems of getting stuck on bits of the station I don't like though. Making the stations larger didn't solve this, it just meant the bits you got stuck on are now bigger. What I'd like is for stations to be fitted with some aircraft-carrier style catapults, to really launch you out of the station and clear of all the silly flashing stalks and stuff. If they can tractor you into the station at a range where you don't get stuck, then they should be able to push you back out that far as well.
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.29 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
I just wonder why there are unneeded changes in every patch, changes nobody asked for, and just ****s things up.
Hundreds of people have been asking for larger stations ever since ive been playing this game.
Really? I haven't seen a single post yet about how people are asking for bigger stations, and believe me, I frequently visit these forums.
Enlighten me, and find me a few posts with people (yes, more then 1) asking for bigger stations.
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